Japan prepares for war, poised to be military superpower

[Lorussi]

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[Ifreann]

I'm sure they wouldn't mind selling weapons to China if China weren't in the way of their own imperial aims.

Go ahead and imagine whatever absurd fantasies you want, but don’t pretend they have any relevance to policy.

Like if I were to imagine that America and its allies give a rat's ass about totalitarian empires unless those empires are in their way?

[El Lazaro]

Go ahead and imagine whatever absurd fantasies you want, but don’t pretend they have any relevance to policy.

Like if I were to imagine that America and its allies give a rat's ass about totalitarian empires unless those empires are in their way?

Who cares? Governments aren’t people, and their unknowable, hypothetical thoughtcrimes are not worth agonizing over.

[Ethel mermania]

Ah, clearly Japan wants Chinese imperialism because they haven’t invaded random countries halfway across the globe.

I'm sure they wouldn't mind selling weapons to China if China weren't in the way of their own imperial aims.

Not really seeing how this increase means the IJA is coming back.

[Ifreann]

Like if I were to imagine that America and its allies give a rat's ass about totalitarian empires unless those empires are in their way?

Who cares? Governments aren’t people, and their unknowable, hypothetical thoughtcrimes are not worth agonizing over.

Weird attitude from the person opining that Japan is right to aid America in deterring the enemies of democracy.

[El Lazaro]

Who cares? Governments aren’t people, and their unknowable, hypothetical thoughtcrimes are not worth agonizing over.

Weird attitude from the person opining that Japan is right to aid America in deterring the enemies of democracy.

Do you have a coherent point?

[Ifreann]

Weird attitude from the person opining that Japan is right to aid America in deterring the enemies of democracy.

Do you have a coherent point?

My point is that you are attributing to Japan, and to America, noble intentions that they quite obviously do not actually hold.

[El Lazaro]

Do you have a coherent point?

My point is that you are attributing to Japan, and to America, noble intentions that they quite obviously do not actually hold.

What intentions? Do they support Chinese and Russian irredentism?

[Vistulange]

Who cares? Governments aren’t people, and their unknowable, hypothetical thoughtcrimes are not worth agonizing over.

Weird attitude from the person opining that Japan is right to aid America in deterring the enemies of democracy.

Sorry, over the last two or three pages...

...are you intentionally being obtuse, Ifreann?

[Concejos Unidos]

A country where the ruling party seeks to undermine democracy at every turn, where election after election is deemed unconstitutionally malapportioned by the Supreme Court, where members of the ruling party are enmeshed with criminal organizations and corrupt practices, where prime ministers visit a shrine where they honor over a thousand war criminals, a country where the ruling party defends the past and pushes ahistorical lies denying war atrocities into the education system, a country where the ruling party is intimately tied to ultranationalist organizations, a country where the ruling party doesn't show a shred of repentance for the crimes of the past, is not a country that can be trusted with a military.

[Galactic Powers]

Why shouldn't they? Two hostile nuclear powers on their doorstep, I don't see how this is a problem besides all the "Oh no Japan remilitarizing in the early century again hahah" memes. The US military is probably near the peak of its power, and Japan has realized this. They know they will need to provide for themselves in the near future, since America might not be there as a continuously reliable partner in the future.

3 powers actually, forgot about Russia somehow.

[Ifreann]

My point is that you are attributing to Japan, and to America, noble intentions that they quite obviously do not actually hold.

What intentions? Do they support Chinese and Russian irredentism?

Are you unable to read even your own posts?

[Picairn]

A country where the ruling party seeks to undermine democracy at every turn, where election after election is deemed unconstitutionally malapportioned by the Supreme Court, where members of the ruling party are enmeshed with criminal organizations and corrupt practices, where prime ministers visit a shrine where they honor over a thousand war criminals, a country where the ruling party defends the past and pushes ahistorical lies denying war atrocities into the education system, a country where the ruling party is intimately tied to ultranationalist organizations, a country where the ruling party doesn't show a shred of repentance for the crimes of the past, is not a country that can be trusted with a military.

Yeah I'm concerned with all the potential ramifications from this remilitarization. What's to stop the current right-wing government from embarking on dangerous paths of militarism and expansionism again?

[Meguminsk]

ahh finally japan is facing reality. sun tzu once said "in peace, prepare for war; in war, prepare for peace", and japan is finally starting to understand this. pacifism only works if everyone else is pacifist as well, so thank fucking god japan is starting to rearm itself.

[Ifreann]

ahh finally japan is facing reality. sun tzu once said "in peace, prepare for war; in war, prepare for peace", and japan is finally starting to understand this. pacifism only works if everyone else is pacifist as well, so thank fucking god japan is starting to rearm itself.

Japan has never been pacifist.

[Eahland]

A country where the ruling party seeks to undermine democracy at every turn, where election after election is deemed unconstitutionally malapportioned by the Supreme Court, where members of the ruling party are enmeshed with criminal organizations and corrupt practices, where prime ministers visit a shrine where they honor over a thousand war criminals, a country where the ruling party defends the past and pushes ahistorical lies denying war atrocities into the education system, a country where the ruling party is intimately tied to ultranationalist organizations, a country where the ruling party doesn't show a shred of repentance for the crimes of the past, is not a country that can be trusted with a military.

Yeah I'm concerned with all the potential ramifications from this remilitarization. What's to stop the current right-wing government from embarking on dangerous paths of militarism and expansionism again?

Because last time they did that, we nuked them. Twice.

[Meguminsk]

ahh finally japan is facing reality. sun tzu once said "in peace, prepare for war; in war, prepare for peace", and japan is finally starting to understand this. pacifism only works if everyone else is pacifist as well, so thank fucking god japan is starting to rearm itself.

Japan has never been pacifist.

they are, in the sense that they never actively used their military for expressly military use. for example, they sent their troops to the middle east (i forget which country specifically) but only used them as hacksaw ridge-type of shit

[Shermania]

ahh finally japan is facing reality. sun tzu once said "in peace, prepare for war; in war, prepare for peace", and japan is finally starting to understand this. pacifism only works if everyone else is pacifist as well, so thank fucking god japan is starting to rearm itself.

Well Militarism saw Japan reduced to a starving, bombed-out, irradiated ruin. And "pacifism" saw the postwar economic miracle. So of all the countries you could point to to make this point, you chose the one that directly disproves it.

Not smart.

[Cannot think of a name]

Well, ya gotta spend a little coin to make jets that turn into giant robots.

[Ifreann]

Japan has never been pacifist.

they are, in the sense that they never actively used their military for expressly military use. for example, they sent their troops to the middle east (i forget which country specifically) but only used them as hacksaw ridge-type of shit

Their military is for self-defence. The fact that they haven't been invaded doesn't mean that they're pacifists.

[El Lazaro]

What intentions? Do they support Chinese and Russian irredentism?

Are you unable to read even your own posts?

If this is your idea of a joke, you can tell me the punchline already.

[Portzania]

americans when sovereign nations are doing sovereign things

[Portzania]

ahh finally japan is facing reality. sun tzu once said "in peace, prepare for war; in war, prepare for peace", and japan is finally starting to understand this. pacifism only works if everyone else is pacifist as well, so thank fucking god japan is starting to rearm itself.

Well Militarism saw Japan reduced to a starving, bombed-out, irradiated ruin. And "pacifism" saw the postwar economic miracle. So of all the countries you could point to to make this point, you chose the one that directly disproves it.

Not smart.

The problem is that Japan during its militarism stage picked a fight against way too many nations than it could handle, plus, when Japan actually did open its borders to the outside world and started expanding, it wasn't a "starving, bombed-out, irradiated ruin". Militarism doesn't work out when you piss off the entire world.

[Nora Xent]

Well Militarism saw Japan reduced to a starving, bombed-out, irradiated ruin. And "pacifism" saw the postwar economic miracle. So of all the countries you could point to to make this point, you chose the one that directly disproves it.

Not smart.

The problem is that Japan during its militarism stage picked a fight against way too many nations than it could handle, plus, when Japan actually did open its borders to the outside world and started expanding, it wasn't a "starving, bombed-out, irradiated ruin". Militarism doesn't work out when you piss off the entire world.

That's an interesting way of saying that they killed millions of people, and got bombed and nuked for killing millions.

[Portzania]

The problem is that Japan during its militarism stage picked a fight against way too many nations than it could handle, plus, when Japan actually did open its borders to the outside world and started expanding, it wasn't a "starving, bombed-out, irradiated ruin". Militarism doesn't work out when you piss off the entire world.

That's an interesting way of saying that they killed millions of people, and got bombed and nuked for killing millions.

I'm not denying the atrocities of the Japanese army and its war crimes against China, and many other countries. But you seem to think that Japan increasing military spending means this will happen again. It won't, most Japanese citizens are pretty pacifist anyway, you need to calm down.