Protests Erupt in China, calling for Xi Jinping to step down

[Parai Hambriven]

Why?

Because, in fact, the scale of the protest is not large, and it is only a call for the government to rectify according to law caused by some individuals (note: it is individuals) to bid up the price of vegetables (and the government's urban management department has participated in the management)

I understand that you're either trolling and pretending to be Chinese or just genuinely trying to seem Chinese in order to simp for the CCP, but if that was the case, you'd think more would be shouting "bid up the prices of vegetables" at the protests, instead of demanding Xi Jinping to resign.

[Chong Qing]

Oh, my God, what do you think is a high vaccination rate??

For flu-like viruses, anything between 90 and 100%. 63% is shockingly inadequate.

I mean the "vaccination rate" of the vaccine!

[Bombadil]

It can be true to say both, that China is stuck with the virus and cannot let it rampage freely given low vaccination rates, especially among the elderly. However it's also true that he has a huge amount of personal capital invested in this approach.

Way back at the beginning, he sent Li Keqiang down to Wuhan, saying it was his responsibility. However the people started praising Li Keqiang for being there, and then handling it effectively in locking down Wuhan. Xi Jinping saw this, saw the success and then claimed it all for himself.

He owns it now, completely.

However, he's just untouchable, he's got rid of all political enemies in the name of corruption, and he owns all the levers of power from government to military.

Oh, my God, what do you think is a high vaccination rate??

Unlike many other countries, the COVID-19 vaccination rate among the elderly population in China is lower than that among other age groups. As of March 17, 2022, only around half of the Chinese residents aged 80 years and older were fully vaccinated against COVID-19, while less than 20 percent had received a booster shot. In comparison, as of March 22, 2022, 98 percent of Japanese elderlies between 80 and 89 years are fully vaccinated against COVID-19.

Link

[Laurel]

BBC journalist Ed Lawrence arrested in China and beaten by the police, released several hours later. The official (bullshit) explanation is that they arrested him to prevent him from getting Covid from the crowd.

It takes courage to cover a story in a country like that.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

For flu-like viruses, anything between 90 and 100%. 63% is shockingly inadequate.

I mean the "vaccination rate" of the vaccine!

90 to 100% vaccination rate. Third doses at above 90%.

[Nilokeras]

'Instead of looking into any material reasons why the Chinese government might still be pursuing a covid-zero approach, like the limited effectiveness of its homegrown vaccines, almost no access to other vaccine sources and extremely uneven access to healthcare, I'm going to speculate wildly on how because Xi is an inscrutable Oriental, he must cosplay as the Emperor at all times. I am very smart'

It can be true to say both, that China is stuck with the virus and cannot let it rampage freely given low vaccination rates, especially among the elderly. However it's also true that he has a huge amount of personal capital invested in this approach.

Way back at the beginning, he sent Li Keqiang down to Wuhan, saying it was his responsibility. However the people started praising Li Keqiang for being there, and then handling it effectively in locking down Wuhan. Xi Jinping saw this, saw the success and then claimed it all for himself.

He owns it now, completely.

However, he's just untouchable, he's got rid of all political enemies in the name of corruption, and he owns all the levers of power from government to military.

I don't think it would stick that much if there was a change in policies - there's always a subordinate to throw under the bus and take credit for the mistakes. And as you said its not as though there's an opposition waiting in the wings to take advantage.

[Chong Qing]

Oh, my God, what do you think is a high vaccination rate??

Unlike many other countries, the COVID-19 vaccination rate among the elderly population in China is lower than that among other age groups. As of March 17, 2022, only around half of the Chinese residents aged 80 years and older were fully vaccinated against COVID-19, while less than 20 percent had received a booster shot. In comparison, as of March 22, 2022, 98 percent of Japanese elderlies between 80 and 89 years are fully vaccinated against COVID-19.

Link

Oh,[url=http://www.kepu.gov.cn/www/article/dtxw/ba694ff01e244ef697a4485de2b05520]

[Veneti Marsei]

You are aware that the rest of the world HAS largely returned to normal, correct? The rest of the world is carrying on with trade and the World Cup, and China is still stubbornly insisting that Covid is still a threat. It is not. We have created the vaccines and the medicine to fight it, and so now we may return to normal.

China has made great strides in ridding itself of Covid, yes. But it has lost its sight and its way. Covid is like the flu, it will come and it will go with the seasons and we cannot crush it, only treat it when it comes. To treat it like an enemy is foolish, it is like trying to fight water. And yet China continues to shut down cities, lock people in their homes at the slightest whiff of the disease. China would be far better off following the way the West is handling the situation: Continue on as normal with some precautions, and respond to the disease with vaccines and medication rather than trying to fight it beforehand.

Your government knows this, but it hardly cares for you. Xi Jinping needs to beat Covid so that he can be re-elected, and then re-elected, and then re-elected. He is too busy playing the game of politics to truly care for his people. All that he does, he does so that he may remain in control.

And I think all this raises an interesting question: what is the point of sacrificng your liberty? You sacrifice your freedoms to the government, but it does not care for you? And so for what? For your childrens future? But what good is their future when the government does not care for them either? For the sake of China? Such is a fragile concept, to devote yourself to an ever-changing state.

I hope you can clearly see that I did not write that we will be closed when the epidemic comes. But in the absence of the epidemic, except for wearing masks and making nucleic acid every day, is there no difference from before 2020? Don't you see that we have already held the Winter Olympics in the first half of 2022..? Have we closed the door? Do you understand that we only implement semi blockade in the most severely affected areas?

"Semi-blockade in the most severely affected areas"

As in: isolate entire city blocks and lock people indoors without food, and essentially shut down entire cities following outbreaks.

These are not semi-blockades. These are emergency measures and crowd control.

[Bombadil]

It can be true to say both, that China is stuck with the virus and cannot let it rampage freely given low vaccination rates, especially among the elderly. However it's also true that he has a huge amount of personal capital invested in this approach.

Way back at the beginning, he sent Li Keqiang down to Wuhan, saying it was his responsibility. However the people started praising Li Keqiang for being there, and then handling it effectively in locking down Wuhan. Xi Jinping saw this, saw the success and then claimed it all for himself.

He owns it now, completely.

However, he's just untouchable, he's got rid of all political enemies in the name of corruption, and he owns all the levers of power from government to military.

I hope you understand that this is the government that we elected, recognized, and now best represents our views.

I don't know, and I accept my friends will be likely more liberal leaning as it is, but I think people have been uncomfortable with his seeming alignment with Mao. Deng Xiaopeng specifically set two term limits to stop a return to Mao-like leadership of cult. I believe his approach over 2020, '21 and most of this year has been popular, but I think the last two months has seen a rumble of discontent. An underlying level of discomfort despite broadly supporting the approach to Covid becomes a problem when that support for the approach wanes and the discomfort becomes more apparent.

However I'm pretty sure these protests will be suppressed. I'm very curious to see if they continue tonight or are completely stopped.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Unlike many other countries, the COVID-19 vaccination rate among the elderly population in China is lower than that among other age groups. As of March 17, 2022, only around half of the Chinese residents aged 80 years and older were fully vaccinated against COVID-19, while less than 20 percent had received a booster shot. In comparison, as of March 22, 2022, 98 percent of Japanese elderlies between 80 and 89 years are fully vaccinated against COVID-19.

Link

Oh,[url=http://www.kepu.gov.cn/www/article/dtxw/ba694ff01e244ef697a4485de2b05520]

>67.3% of elderly got a second dose
Are you shitting me?
It's 2022 lmfao you need to be working on the fifth dose months ago.

[Bombadil]

Unlike many other countries, the COVID-19 vaccination rate among the elderly population in China is lower than that among other age groups. As of March 17, 2022, only around half of the Chinese residents aged 80 years and older were fully vaccinated against COVID-19, while less than 20 percent had received a booster shot. In comparison, as of March 22, 2022, 98 percent of Japanese elderlies between 80 and 89 years are fully vaccinated against COVID-19.

Link

Oh,[url=http://www.kepu.gov.cn/www/article/dtxw/ba694ff01e244ef697a4485de2b05520]

Broken down by age this says nothing different to what I posted.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Oh,[url=http://www.kepu.gov.cn/www/article/dtxw/ba694ff01e244ef697a4485de2b05520]

Broken down by age this says nothing different to what I posted.

2/3rds of the elderly are merely on their second doses lmfao
the fuck is the CPC doing? Having party members binge drink the vaccines?

[Bombadil]

Broken down by age this says nothing different to what I posted.

2/3rds of the elderly are merely on their second doses lmfao
the fuck is the CPC doing? Having party members binge drink the vaccines?

There's a lot of resistance among the elderly who prefer TCM. Even here in HK there was a stupid thing going around saying Sinovac was better for Asians because it was only 60% efficacy, compared to +90% for BionTech, where they mistook efficacy for strength.

I lived in Beijing during SARS, it saw an explosion in popularity for Chivas Regal, because the rumour was that Chivas and green tea were antidotes to SARS. It's still the drink of choice in nightclubs, you get a set of Chivas and 6 bottles of green tea to guarantee a table.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

2/3rds of the elderly are merely on their second doses lmfao
the fuck is the CPC doing? Having party members binge drink the vaccines?

There's a lot of resistance among the elderly who prefer TCM. Even here in HK there was a stupid thing going around saying Sinovac was better for Asians because it was only 60% efficacy, compared to +90% for BionTech, where they mistook efficacy for strength.

I lived in Beijing during SARS, it saw an explosion in popularity for Chivas Regal, because the rumour was that Chivas and green tea were antidotes to SARS. It's still the drink of choice in nightclubs, you get a set of Chivas and 6 bottles of green tea to guarantee a table.

Isn't omicron ver late 2022 also roflstomping all over sinovac?

[Picairn]

'Instead of looking into any material reasons why the Chinese government might still be pursuing a covid-zero approach, like the limited effectiveness of its homegrown vaccines, almost no access to other vaccine sources and extremely uneven access to healthcare,

What the hell is the Chinese government doing these past 2 years? Even Vietnam managed to secure a ton of foreign vaccines and everything is back to normal here.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

'Instead of looking into any material reasons why the Chinese government might still be pursuing a covid-zero approach, like the limited effectiveness of its homegrown vaccines, almost no access to other vaccine sources and extremely uneven access to healthcare,

What the hell is the Chinese government doing these past 2 years? Even Vietnam managed to secure a ton of foreign vaccines and everything is back to normal here.

smoking weed in rmb banknotes probs while congratulating themselves over the "glorious successes of sinovac"...
all the while omicron ver. late 2022 is tearing sinovac apart

[Parai Hambriven]

I mean the "vaccination rate" of the vaccine!

90 to 100% vaccination rate. Third doses at above 90%.

I literally regret getting my COVID vaccine and I'm more heavily vaccinated against COVID than most residents of China.

[Bombadil]

Nothing going on in Wuhan at all, none whatsoever..

In the central city of Wuhan, where the pandemic began three years ago, videos on social media showed hundreds of residents take to the streets, smashing through metal barricades, overturning Covid testing tents and demanding an end to lockdowns.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1596840555375644672

Or Chengdu.. https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1596900031201570816?

[Chong Qing]

I mean the "vaccination rate" of the vaccine!

90 to 100% vaccination rate. Third doses at above 90%.

Either you were wrong when you said our vaccination rate was low, or your data is low (sure)
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[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

90 to 100% vaccination rate. Third doses at above 90%.

Either you were wrong when you said our vaccination rate was low, or your data is low (sure)
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Lord in heaven i am not downloading that

[Picairn]

Nothing going on in Wuhan at all, none whatsoever..

In the central city of Wuhan, where the pandemic began three years ago, videos on social media showed hundreds of residents take to the streets, smashing through metal barricades, overturning Covid testing tents and demanding an end to lockdowns.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1596840555375644672

Or Chengdu.. https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1596900031201570816?

Common Chong Qing L, can't push government propaganda on the open Internet.

[Vikanias]

Tiannamen Square 2: Electric Boogaloo

[Rusozak]

Nothing going on in Wuhan at all, none whatsoever..

In the central city of Wuhan, where the pandemic began three years ago, videos on social media showed hundreds of residents take to the streets, smashing through metal barricades, overturning Covid testing tents and demanding an end to lockdowns.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1596840555375644672

Or Chengdu.. https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1596900031201570816?

This is why I don't believe there can be a repeat of 1989. Governments can't sweep things under the rug as easily in the information age. Too many people have cameras and internet access to spread information, despite government attempts to suppress it. And what's more, China is hugely dependent on foreign trade. It can't afford to isolate itself by committing atrocities like Russia has.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Or Chengdu.. https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1596900031201570816?

There's a police bus but where's the police lmao
did the bastards run?

[Bombadil]

Nothing going on in Wuhan at all, none whatsoever..

In the central city of Wuhan, where the pandemic began three years ago, videos on social media showed hundreds of residents take to the streets, smashing through metal barricades, overturning Covid testing tents and demanding an end to lockdowns.

https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/1596840555375644672

Or Chengdu.. https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1596900031201570816?

Common Chong Qing L, can't push government propaganda on the open Internet.

Protests are funny, a friend who lives not far from Liangmahe said everything was completely quiet where he lived. During the HK protests, the images would suggest the city was on fire but, for the most part, in most areas, it was normal. If you avoided areas where protests were centred, although they moved all around with the 'be like water' strategy, but you knew where they were happening, and could avoid them.

You can live in a city of protest and not experience it. It can be completely quiet and peaceful in one area and not in another. And the rate the censors are 404'ing content on Weixin and Weibo means you might well be unaware.

They're even promoting tweets of scantily dressed cartoon women on Twitter in an effort to suppress information.