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The Great Nevada Overlord
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Postby The Great Nevada Overlord » Wed Nov 30, 2022 1:42 am

I'll throw my hat in the ring.

First I'll acknowledge the fact that yes, the world isn't flooded and we're all living in Mad Max.

But nonetheless this is the problem, climate change is slow and gradual but if we decide it is top priority when it truly threatens us it will be to late.

If you have an issue today but you know nothing will happen until later you might not do it, right? But when it does affect you, you need to do it but at the same time it will be still hurting you in the long run. That's why it's top priority now so then it doesn't hurt us in the future.

Get me? Am I making any sense? I don't even know, but have a good'n!
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Sweden 2022 RP
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Postby Sweden 2022 RP » Wed Nov 30, 2022 1:44 am

I'm incredibly surprised this thread is still running.

I take it the OP just never responded to anyone?
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Ice Capped Mountains
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Founded: Jun 08, 2022
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Postby Ice Capped Mountains » Wed Nov 30, 2022 3:57 am

in my country we are reporting record draughts which causes our food prices to soar

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Heloin
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Postby Heloin » Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:07 am

If you don’t believe in global warming and human caused climate change at this point you are either a liar or willfully ignorant.

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Fractalnavel
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Postby Fractalnavel » Wed Nov 30, 2022 5:26 am

Ice Capped Mountains wrote:in my country we are reporting record draughts which causes our food prices to soar


I'll drink to that
https://wikidiff.com/draught/drought

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Countesia
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Postby Countesia » Wed Nov 30, 2022 8:43 am

Diarcesia wrote:
Countesia wrote:Guys... Did I just read a take from Saiwania that wasn't the most eye roll-worthy sequence of letters to ever be put to screen?

If you remove the fascism part of it, yeah.


By his standards, its a start.

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Godular
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Postby Godular » Wed Nov 30, 2022 3:40 pm

Sweden 2022 RP wrote:I'm incredibly surprised this thread is still running.

I take it the OP just never responded to anyone?


Oh, they responded... but mostly to hork up more and more conspiracy theory bullshit.
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New haven america
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Postby New haven america » Wed Nov 30, 2022 7:07 pm

Yerachmeal wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Weather isn't random. Have you people never seen a weather forecast?

You mean the things that are wrong close to half the time, because some symptoms of weather are trackable, a lot of it is randomness? This is my 7th year in Florida, and each year an enormous hurricane was predicted to hit Boca. It only had anywhere near the damage predicted twice.

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Kurdistan 2022 rp
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Postby Kurdistan 2022 rp » Wed Nov 30, 2022 7:13 pm

Mountains and Volcanoes wrote:Man... I don’t have any words... but snaps hands LETS DO THIS!
WHERE to Begin? First: One Global warming is a thing! Secondly: It effects EVERYONE! (Especially our food supply and shipping / transportation)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidnikel ... 943d2a2cb3
explain this then
world isn't getting warmer it just lapses in and out of hot and cold sub-periods

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Bombadil
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Postby Bombadil » Wed Nov 30, 2022 7:17 pm

Kurdistan 2022 rp wrote:
Mountains and Volcanoes wrote:Man... I don’t have any words... but snaps hands LETS DO THIS!
WHERE to Begin? First: One Global warming is a thing! Secondly: It effects EVERYONE! (Especially our food supply and shipping / transportation)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidnikel ... 943d2a2cb3
explain this then
world isn't getting warmer it just lapses in and out of hot and cold sub-periods


Climate change threads always have the most links to 'proof' that turn out to disprove the assertion of the poster.

Record temperatures saw most of the remaining ice in place since the time of the route melt.

That explains it.
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Kurdistan 2022 rp
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Postby Kurdistan 2022 rp » Wed Nov 30, 2022 7:26 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Kurdistan 2022 rp wrote:https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidnikel ... 943d2a2cb3
explain this then
world isn't getting warmer it just lapses in and out of hot and cold sub-periods


Climate change threads always have the most links to 'proof' that turn out to disprove the assertion of the poster.

Record temperatures saw most of the remaining ice in place since the time of the route melt.

That explains it.

At that point, the Black Death followed by a colder climate almost certainly reduced the human activity on the route.

that un explains it
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Bombadil
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Postby Bombadil » Wed Nov 30, 2022 7:31 pm

Kurdistan 2022 rp wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
Climate change threads always have the most links to 'proof' that turn out to disprove the assertion of the poster.

Record temperatures saw most of the remaining ice in place since the time of the route melt.

That explains it.

At that point, the Black Death followed by a colder climate almost certainly reduced the human activity on the route.

that un explains it


This re-explains it, we're so far out of natural variation there is clearly a cause.. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Climate_v ... 800kyr.svg
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Northern Socialist Council Republics
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Postby Northern Socialist Council Republics » Wed Nov 30, 2022 7:37 pm

That climate change is primarily anthropogenic is unproven and unprovable.

Of course, gravity is also just a theory and not proven fact, so if you think that there is no need to concern ourselves with climate change because it has not been proven, you can always choose to demonstrate your principled commitment towards disregarding facts unless they have been conclusively proven by walking off the roof of a tall building.



More seriously, I'm reminded of what I read in a book a while back: there being no nationalist solution to climate change, nationalists prefer to pretend that climate change doesn't exist.
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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Nov 30, 2022 7:38 pm

Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:That climate change is primarily anthropogenic is unproven and unprovable.

Of course, gravity is also just a theory and not proven fact, so if you think that there is no need to concern ourselves with climate change, you can always choose to demonstrate your principled commitment towards disregarding facts unless they have been conclusively proven by walking off the roof of a tall building.



More seriously, I'm reminded of what I read in a book a while back: there being no nationalist solution to climate change, nationalists prefer to pretend that climate change doesn't exist.

gravity is a proven fact
just jump out of a window at the tenth floor
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Northern Socialist Council Republics
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Postby Northern Socialist Council Republics » Wed Nov 30, 2022 7:39 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:gravity is a proven fact
just jump out of a window at the tenth floor

Scientific theories are built primarily from inductive reasoning, which means that they are never "proven" in the logical sense of proof.
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The All-Egyptian union
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Postby The All-Egyptian union » Wed Nov 30, 2022 7:43 pm

This is autistic as fuck.

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Nilokeras
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Postby Nilokeras » Wed Nov 30, 2022 7:54 pm

Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:That climate change is primarily anthropogenic is unproven and unprovable.


The existence of pedantry, on the other hand

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Dimetrodon Empire
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:06 pm

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I'm surprised you still had any faith in humanity.
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Le Enclave Reformas
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Postby Le Enclave Reformas » Sat Dec 03, 2022 12:59 pm

The All-Egyptian union wrote:This is autistic as fuck.

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TheKeyToJoy
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Postby TheKeyToJoy » Sun Dec 04, 2022 5:30 pm

Heloin wrote:If you don’t believe in global warming and human caused climate change at this point you are either a liar or willfully ignorant.

Or your a dumbass.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Dec 04, 2022 7:07 pm

TheKeyToJoy wrote:
Heloin wrote:If you don’t believe in global warming and human caused climate change at this point you are either a liar or willfully ignorant.

Or your a dumbass.


That is not a counter argument. Don’t troll. It will get you warned if not banned.
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Postby TheKeyToJoy » Sun Dec 04, 2022 8:02 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
TheKeyToJoy wrote:Or your a dumbass.


That is not a counter argument. Don’t troll. It will get you warned if not banned.

What I wasn’t, though it’s probably flaming.
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