American Politics XV: Trump and '24 Already....

[Yerachmeal]

I don't fully qualify as a Trump supporter but I do qualify as conservative which I think is what you mean, so I'll step up anyways. I like his bill for student loan debt, though I disagree with his implementation. I also support how he handled that incident when Israel and Plaestine almost got into a war with each other. I like that he is attempting to blacklist assault rifles. He has done a few good things, even though there is way more bad then good.

They are very few conservatives left that support the gun control that you support.

I know. It's because I understand that politics isn't sports. You don't make your decisions just because they coincide with people you generally disagree with. However I think I do clearly side with the gop more often then not.

[San Lumen]

Which ones?

I’m voting Republican in the congressional race, local state senate race and for AG

Why?

[New-Minneapolis]

I’m voting Republican in the congressional race, local state senate race and for AG

Why?

Because the Democrats running in those races supported dismantling the police Minneapolis police department

[American Legionaries]

" country before party" is a preposterous concept on it's face. The whole point of party politics is that you belong to the one you think is better. Everybody believes that their own party is "country".

Lol, I don’t. I’ve been a split ticket voter for the past decade

Even as a split ticket voter, which of those candidates are you putting ahead of your country?

[Forsher]

Saying "lean", likely", etc. is a sign of weakness. Real ones predict the exact percentage the candidates will win by.

Well then, reclassify me as Shrillland with a K because I'm not a real one.

I don't understand this joke. Probably for related reasons I don't understand why you didn't go with Shilland.

Democracy is going to die in Arizona, all because people think that Kari Lake will reduce inflation and illegal immigration. I hope they’re happy with their decision

Why do they think she will reduce inflation?

[The Pacific Northwest]

Saying "lean", likely", etc. is a sign of weakness. Real ones predict the exact percentage the candidates will win by.

Time to place bets?

[Shrillland]

Well then, reclassify me as Shrillland with a K because I'm not a real one.

I don't understand this joke. Probably for related reasons I don't understand why you didn't go with Shilland.

Democracy is going to die in Arizona, all because people think that Kari Lake will reduce inflation and illegal immigration. I hope they’re happy with their decision

Why do they think she will reduce inflation?

Admittedly, it's an inside personal joke, like how imitation crab is crab with a K, I end up using that for all sorts of imitation foods or furniture, so lobster with a K, walnut with a K, even pearls with a K.

[Khurkhogur]

Gross.

I know, to hell with decency and putting country before party politics, huh? Gotta own those gotdamn mafukin libs, right

I mean, when you put modern American politics into the context of the politics of the world throughout history, it becomes very clear that "decency" and "putting the country first" are complete buzzwords with no real value.
Who says everyone is loyal to America? Who says they should be? In history, countries coalesced and split up all the time. Loyalty to the state existed only so long as it provided an agreeable arrangement for everyone (or most) involved.
Someday, America as we know it will not be a single entity. Putting all your faith and loyalty in a single state is silly, it's a totally arbitrary construction that will collapse one day.
And that's not even getting to decency, which is really just status quo interests insisting that politics stick to the rules the status quo has set down. Why should people pay tribute to the status quo when it no longer serves their interests? It's beating a dead horse repeating this, but think about what has gone wrong with the current system if it's being undermined like this. Don't just blindly defend it.

[American Legionaries]

I don't understand this joke. Probably for related reasons I don't understand why you didn't go with Shilland.



Why do they think she will reduce inflation?

Admittedly, it's an inside personal joke, like how imitation crab is crab with a K, I end up using that for all sorts of imitation foods or furniture, so lobster with a K, walnut with a K, even pearls with a K.

I just want to see the regional RP of a nation populated entirely by krill.

[New-Minneapolis]

Lol, I don’t. I’ve been a split ticket voter for the past decade

Even as a split ticket voter, which of those candidates are you putting ahead of your country?

None!

[Yerachmeal]

Even as a split ticket voter, which of those candidates are you putting ahead of your country?

None!

Yeah, I think some people have a hard time understanding that if you voe for people from both parties regularly, that clearly means you are not putting party before country.

[American Legionaries]

Even as a split ticket voter, which of those candidates are you putting ahead of your country?

None!

It would stand to reason that party line voters feel the same way, yes?

[Reverend Norv]

None!

It would stand to reason that party line voters feel the same way, yes?

Why? You don't.

[American Legionaries]

It would stand to reason that party line voters feel the same way, yes?

Why? You don't.

I do, but thanks for playing.

[Saiwania]

SCOTUS is on the verge of ending affirmative action. This is probably very good so far as outcomes go. Now people going to college actually have be qualified enough to be admitted, or failing that- actually being rich enough to get in, if it isn't taking out a loan.

There will be no more nonsense about certain racial quotas needing to be filled in different places.

[Mattopilos III]

They are very few conservatives left that support the gun control that you support.

I know. It's because I understand that politics isn't sports. You don't make your decisions just because they coincide with people you generally disagree with. However I think I do clearly side with the gop more often then not.

You are gonna hate it when you learn what electoralist politics is like then.

[The Alma Mater]

SCOTUS is on the verge of ending affirmative action. This is probably very good so far as outcomes go. Now people going to college actually have be qualified enough to be admitted, or failing that- actually being rich enough to get in, if it isn't taking out a loan.

There will be no more nonsense about certain racial quotas needing to be filled in different places.

Why would "being rich" be a valid reason to enter a college if one is too dumb to qualify normally?

[-Astoria-]

SCOTUS is on the verge of ending affirmative action. This is probably very good so far as outcomes go. Now people going to college actually have be qualified enough to be admitted, or failing that- actually being rich enough to get in, if it isn't taking out a loan.

There will be no more nonsense about certain racial quotas needing to be filled in different places.

Bit funny you say that...

[Saiwania]

Why would "being rich" be a valid reason to enter a college if one is too dumb to qualify normally?

As a general rule, if money "makes the world go round" no school is going to refuse tuition money from someone who can actually pay up. If they do badly, the school can just fail them and they'll have to pay tuitions again until they get one or more successful semesters, if they don't want to give up on higher education.

If you want anything in this world, there is a price for it you can eventually reach or finance, if it isn't illegal.

If Harvard for example, won't accept you; there is a lesser school out there that will. If you do well enough there, there is at least a chance that Harvard will accept you later on, when they wouldn't before, if objectively speaking; you're a far more impressive prospect now than yesterday.

It might mean graduating from a series of better and better schools over many years until you reach possible entry into the best, if you get that far.

[Spirit of Hope]

SCOTUS is on the verge of ending affirmative action. This is probably very good so far as outcomes go. Now people going to college actually have be qualified enough to be admitted, or failing that- actually being rich enough to get in, if it isn't taking out a loan.

There will be no more nonsense about certain racial quotas needing to be filled in different places.

Do you have any evidence that the people who are admitted to colleges that practice affirmative action are in any way under qualified to attend those colleges?

[Saiwania]

Do you have any evidence that the people who are admitted to colleges that practice affirmative action are in any way under qualified to attend those colleges?

From my experiences, I'll freely admit that they probably are qualified. The only thing that will likely change from affirmative action to no affirmative action, is that schools won't feel the need to go out of their way to be "diverse." Which is what I can get more behind.

Instead, the pool of students will mostly be who lives there or who has traveled to attend there. This isn't going into who gets scholarships/grants and who doesn't. That will change. It largely doesn't matter if you have enough money or can finance your way into an accredited school before a higher ranked one later on.

Just take on the debt if what you're learning actually has a high enough return on that knowledge being applied, and if you have the drive/ambition to pull it off. Make damned sure to not fail to the most extent possible. Else you're screwed.

[Imperial Samiller]

Oh boy, affirmative action. I dont see any way this could become controversial. I will be honest with you guys, I can understand why many are upset at the supreme court right now.

[Kerwa]

SCOTUS is on the verge of ending affirmative action. This is probably very good so far as outcomes go. Now people going to college actually have be qualified enough to be admitted, or failing that- actually being rich enough to get in, if it isn't taking out a loan.

There will be no more nonsense about certain racial quotas needing to be filled in different places.

Do you have any evidence that the people who are admitted to colleges that practice affirmative action are in any way under qualified to attend those colleges?

The qualification is being able to sign a promissory note. It’s not a high bar.

[San Lumen]

Oh boy, affirmative action. I dont see any way this could become controversial. I will be honest with you guys, I can understand why many are upset at the supreme court right now.

They are totally out of touch and states should start openly defying them.

[Bewaffnete Krafte]

Oh boy, affirmative action. I dont see any way this could become controversial. I will be honest with you guys, I can understand why many are upset at the supreme court right now.

They are totally out of touch and states should start openly defying them.

I don't know why people are surprised a court made up of a bunch of 80-year-olds is out of touch.