American Politics XV: Trump and '24 Already....

[Yerachmeal]

Yes but there's a special reason for that, and it's not as generous as it looks. And please actually read the link I provide this time before you argue with it. https://www.cityandstateny.com/policy/2 ... ed/368239/

Okay.
They still spend a fucking lot either way.

And cause them to lose much more albeit indirectly.

[San Lumen]

Not what I said in the slightest.

Are you sure? Because it sure sounds like you're trying to justify the Capitol Police looking the other way when people are trying to get into the building...

I did not say this in any way.

[Yerachmeal]

And besides Republicans are the ones who want to 'defund the police' by defunding the FBI and IRS. So I say they want to ruin our glorious nation with TAX EVASION and TERRORISM.

And spend plenty of money on replacements. Besides your deflecting. How do you know that I agree with the republicans on this one? (I don't.) And neither of those services are the typical definition of police anyways, so it's really not relevant in the slightest.

[Nora Xent]

And besides Republicans are the ones who want to 'defund the police' by defunding the FBI and IRS. So I say they want to ruin our glorious nation with TAX EVASION and TERRORISM.

And spend plenty of money on replacements. Besides your deflecting. How do you know that I agree with the republicans on this one? (I don't.) And neither of those services are the typical definition of police anyways, so it's really not relevant in the slightest.

Fair enough.

[Picairn]

And spend plenty of money on replacements.

Their "replacements" are right-wing militias guarding voting stations and more tax cuts to the rich.

[Mattopilos III]

Okay.
They still spend a fucking lot either way.

And cause them to lose much more albeit indirectly.

Sounds like their own damn fault

[El Lazaro]

And besides Republicans are the ones who want to 'defund the police' by defunding the FBI and IRS. So I say they want to ruin our glorious nation with TAX EVASION and TERRORISM.

And spend plenty of money on replacements. Besides your deflecting. How do you know that I agree with the republicans on this one? (I don't.) And neither of those services are the typical definition of police anyways, so it's really not relevant in the slightest.

What’s the difference between police and law enforcement officers? Do you need to put the Party above the law to be considered police?

[Yerachmeal]

And spend plenty of money on replacements.

Their "replacements" are right-wing militias guarding voting stations and more tax cuts to the rich.

I seem to recall saying that I disagree with them on it, not that it has anything to do with the discussion about democrats hurting the police.

[Yerachmeal]

And spend plenty of money on replacements. Besides your deflecting. How do you know that I agree with the republicans on this one? (I don't.) And neither of those services are the typical definition of police anyways, so it's really not relevant in the slightest.

What’s the difference between police and law enforcement officers? Do you need to put the Party above the law to be considered police?

You don't go to the police if you found a clue about a kidnap, you go to the FBI. It has nothing to do with parties unless dictinaries have become politicized too.

[Yerachmeal]

And cause them to lose much more albeit indirectly.

Sounds like their own damn fault

Sounds more like the reformers fault to me.

[Mattopilos III]

Sounds like their own damn fault

Sounds more like the reformers fault to me.

Yes and no.
They should reform it so it doesn't have such a large budget and they have strategies that are far more efficient and effective for their given environment, but it's not like reformers get all the say. Things get blocked, people reverse rulings, things stagnate.

[San Lumen]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/paul-pelos ... i-husband/

Suspect in Paul Pelosi attack had list of targets, law enforcement sources say

Sounds very similar to the MAGA bomber in 2018.

[El Lazaro]

What’s the difference between police and law enforcement officers? Do you need to put the Party above the law to be considered police?

You don't go to the police if you found a clue about a kidnap, you go to the FBI. It has nothing to do with parties unless dictinaries have become politicized too.

You should call local police/sheriff first, and they will relay it to the FBI if it has jurisdiction (in this case, likely) and use available resources in the meantime. When police have overlapping jurisdiction, they cooperate on investigations, so contacting local law enforcement before larger agencies is the fastest and surest method. After that, you can contact relevant hotlines or submit a tip, but it’s not the first step you should take.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

GMS: My economic, political and social views on all issues are the views of most Republicans, I strongly agree with them and they strongly agree with me. I met my friend again, Cuban American Trump and Ronald Reagan supporter and Historian Carlos Lumpuy, of French Cuban American descent from way before Fidel's time, an expert on Republican Presidents Trump and Ronald Reagan based on his profession and we discussed Trump's and Ronald Reagan's greatness.

[Forsher]

Who here keeps a hammer handy when having sex?

This feels like something that happened in the second series of American Crime Story, which was based on the murderer of Versace. I think it was the old architect that died basically like this. Let's see what Wikipedia has to say...

In May 1997, Chicago real estate developer Lee Miglin is found dead in his garage. One week earlier, Miglin invites Cunanan, whom he knows as a gay escort, over to his house after his wife Marilyn leaves Chicago to promote her perfume brand. Cunanan proceeds to brutally torture and kill Miglin before stealing his Lexus.

Ah, not an architect but a real estate developer. Close. However, the hammer is named specifically for another episode's events:

In April 1997, Cunanan lures former acquaintance Jeff Trail to the Minneapolis loft-apartment of his former lover, David Madson, and bludgeons him to death with a claw hammer.

Either way it seems both were pre-planned rather than "ah, here's a handy dandy hammer".

[Elwher]

you and what army

Any disruption and I call the BOE or 911 if needed.

If the fact that someone is standing around outside a polling place or ballot box deters you from voting, you don't want to vote very badly. If they physically interfere with your entry, that is a different case entirely but I have not heard of that happening anywhere as of yet.

[San Lumen]

Any disruption and I call the BOE or 911 if needed.

If the fact that someone is standing around outside a polling place or ballot box deters you from voting, you don't want to vote very badly. If they physically interfere with your entry, that is a different case entirely but I have not heard of that happening anywhere as of yet.

voter intimidation is a thing. Outside the poll site is one thing. Inside a different matter.

[Jerzylvania]

Who here keeps a hammer handy when having sex?

Maybe Lorena Bobbit kept a tool kit handy, but she didn't choose the hammer.

[Jerzylvania]

Not what I said in the slightest.

Are you sure? Because it sure sounds like you're trying to justify the Capitol Police looking the other way when people are trying to get into the building...

Whichever, but once the National Guard and the State Police of VA & MD were called upon to intervene Trump decided then to tell his insurrectionist to go home. Donny did that because they would have been surrounded and slaughtered in the next 24 hours had they remained. As to the poll workers on November 8th, I think the several State Police and National Guards are on standby. However, it depends on the governors of those states to give the order to deploy them.

[Gepanzerberg]

Any disruption and I call the BOE or 911 if needed.

If the fact that someone is standing around outside a polling place or ballot box deters you from voting, you don't want to vote very badly. If they physically interfere with your entry, that is a different case entirely but I have not heard of that happening anywhere as of yet.

I kind of agree with you, but putting yourself in the minds of those voting is important. The question of whether or not they will shoot is inconsequential to the fact that they can shoot. That possibility lurking in the back of voters' minds causes much more fear than knowing the answer to the "will they/won't they" question, because they don't know. Unpredictability is the last thing most people want when a person is wielding a gun without good intentions, and I feel their fear going into these polling places is somewhat justified.

[Jerzylvania]

If the fact that someone is standing around outside a polling place or ballot box deters you from voting, you don't want to vote very badly. If they physically interfere with your entry, that is a different case entirely but I have not heard of that happening anywhere as of yet.

I kind of agree with you, but putting yourself in the minds of those voting is important. The question of whether or not they will shoot is inconsequential to the fact that they can shoot. That possibility lurking in the back of voters' minds causes much more fear than knowing the answer to the "will they/won't they" question, because they don't know. Unpredictability is the last thing most people want when a person is wielding a gun without good intentions, and I feel their fear going into these polling places is somewhat justified.

For people that are afraid to leave the house, maybe. But if you haven't noticed we have shootings at churches, schools, grocery stores, etc etc every day. What is the fucking difference?

Go vote.

[Narland]

GMS: My economic, political and social views on all issues are the views of most Republicans, I strongly agree with them and they strongly agree with me. I met my friend again, Cuban American Trump and Ronald Reagan supporter and Historian Carlos Lumpuy, of French Cuban American descent from way before Fidel's time, an expert on Republican Presidents Trump and Ronald Reagan based on his profession and we discussed Trump's and Ronald Reagan's greatness.

Keen. I wish I had been there. Has he written anything? I tried searching the name but came up with info overload for everyone but him. If Lumpuy has a website or blog please telegram it.

If things continue on their trajectory, it looks like GOP candiates will take the Senate and +20 seats in the House. A friend is optimistic that the GOP will take 40 seats.

[San Lumen]

GMS: My economic, political and social views on all issues are the views of most Republicans, I strongly agree with them and they strongly agree with me. I met my friend again, Cuban American Trump and Ronald Reagan supporter and Historian Carlos Lumpuy, of French Cuban American descent from way before Fidel's time, an expert on Republican Presidents Trump and Ronald Reagan based on his profession and we discussed Trump's and Ronald Reagan's greatness.

Keen. I wish I had been there. Has he written anything? I tried searching the name but came up with info overload for everyone but him. If Lumpuy has a website or blog please telegram it.

If things continue on their trajectory, it looks like GOP candiates will take the Senate and +20 seats in the House. A friend is optimistic that the GOP will take 40 seats.

it amazes me that after all the conspiracy theories and everything else Republicans have done people still vote for them. This country is truly beyond saving. There is even a possibly and right wing election denier will be the next Governor of New York. At this point i always assume the Republican will win. I have no faith in polls or the voting public.

[American Legionaries]

Keen. I wish I had been there. Has he written anything? I tried searching the name but came up with info overload for everyone but him. If Lumpuy has a website or blog please telegram it.

If things continue on their trajectory, it looks like GOP candiates will take the Senate and +20 seats in the House. A friend is optimistic that the GOP will take 40 seats.

it amazes me that after all the conspiracy theories and everything else Republicans have done people still vote for them. This country is truly beyond saving. There is even a possibly and right wing election denier will be the next Governor of New York. At this point i always assume the Republican will win. I have no faith in polls or the voting public.

"Why would people keep voting for the party that does what they want???"

Lmao

[San Lumen]

https://thehill.com/homenews/3712815-pa ... idnapping/

Alleged Paul Pelosi attacker charged with assault, attempted kidnapping