American Politics XV: Trump and '24 Already....

[The Black Forrest]

So...make it completely useless? You just wanted a bit of theater?

It is already completely useless

We shall see. Will you acknowledge if you are wrong if he is convicted?

[San Lumen]

Except those federal employees who don’t get paid, those who don’t get their social security checks, food stamps, welfare and many other things you’re just waving off.

Except them what? That there are negative impacts to a government shutdown has already been acknowledged, so what's your point?

I honestly wonder if you truly believe what you write.

Lmao, the feeling is mutual.

Therefore who is benefiting in your scenario? No one.

[American Legionaries]

Except them what? That there are negative impacts to a government shutdown has already been acknowledged, so what's your point?



Lmao, the feeling is mutual.

Therefore who is benefiting in your scenario? No one.

Me, and everyone who's important to me.

[New-Minneapolis]

It is already completely useless

We shall see. Will you acknowledge if you are wrong if he is convicted?

I guess so. If he’s not indicted by this time next year, he’s never going to be indicted

[San Lumen]

Therefore who is benefiting in your scenario? No one.

Me, and everyone who's important to me.

You’re not a government of one. The world doesn’t revolve around you.

[Ifreann]

Me, and everyone who's important to me.

You’re not a government of one. The world doesn’t revolve around you.

Interalise that thought and stop having the same handful of arguments with him over and over and over as if the world did revolve around him.

[Elwher]

It is already completely useless

We shall see. Will you acknowledge if you are wrong if he is convicted?

He may well be indicted. He will not be convicted. Finding 12 jurors who do not already 'know' if he is guilty or not will be next to impossible.

[American Legionaries]

Me, and everyone who's important to me.

You’re not a government of one. The world doesn’t revolve around you.

Lol, and when was the last time you advanced policies that were good for me and bad for you? Or do you think the world does revolve around you?

[The Alma Mater]

You’re not a government of one. The world doesn’t revolve around you.

Lol, and when was the last time you advanced policies that were good for me and bad for you? Or do you think the world does revolve around you?

*raises eyebrow*
You never do things that are detrimental to yourself but will help others?

[The Black Forrest]

We shall see. Will you acknowledge if you are wrong if he is convicted?

He may well be indicted. He will not be convicted. Finding 12 jurors who do not already 'know' if he is guilty or not will be next to impossible.

They are out there. As I remember one Judge explaining. It’s about the ability to examine the evidence and being able to say a person is innocent even if you think otherwise.

We shall see. Might come off with only a hand slap…..

[Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States]

Your therefore fine with the damage that was done?

What damage? The destruction of protected natural lands, no I'm not fine with it. But something doesn't need to be free of downsides to be good.

Again how is shutting down the government and refusing to come together to end it protecting anyone ?

The government can't hurt people if it's shut down.

Leaving people open to damage and exploitation from government 2.0, the private sector.

Your analysis that focuses solely on the ‘official’ government, which enforces regulations and is at least nominally accountable, and leaves out the dictattorial powers that decide food prices, fuel prices, energy accessibility and housing purely based on their own benefit to your detriment, cannot be taken seriously.

Even if all other government functions fail, with its dying breath it will still enforce the will of the private sector over the needs of working class people. You think the private sector are your friends because… well, I don’t know how you can come to that conclusion, but I imagine you think they will be thankful for your stalward defence here on NationStates.gov. They won’t, of course. Your loyalty to them is entirely one-sided, and it’s going to be painful when you find out.

Anyway, dismantling the government can only be beneficial if it is done with the aim of dismantling capitalism, by attacking the functions that enforce capitalism. Attacking the parks service while leaving the police intact is detrimental to your welfare to the extreme.

And yes, I routinely take actions that might disadvantage me in the short term but which benefit others in the short term, and therefore benefit me in the long term.

[Dimetrodon Empire]

It is already completely useless

We shall see. Will you acknowledge if you are wrong if he is convicted?

I honestly do not expect the man to even go to trial, as I do not think the DOJ has the guts to prosecute.

[American Legionaries]

What damage? The destruction of protected natural lands, no I'm not fine with it. But something doesn't need to be free of downsides to be good.



The government can't hurt people if it's shut down.

Leaving people open to damage and exploitation from government 2.0, the private sector.

It would, yes.

Your analysis that focuses solely on the ‘official’ government, which enforces regulations and is at least nominally accountable, and leaves out the dictattorial powers that decide food prices, fuel prices, energy accessibility and housing purely based on their own benefit to your detriment, cannot be taken seriously.

My analysis that does these things seemingly exists only in your mind, please do not take it seriously.

Even if all other government functions fail, with its dying breath it will still enforce the will of the private sector over the needs of working class people.

Probably...

You think the private sector are your friends because…

I don't.

well, I don’t know how you can come to that conclusion

I didn't.

but I imagine you think they will be thankful for your stalward defence here on NationStates.gov.

Please don't imagine things about me, it makes me uncomfortable.

They won’t, of course. Your loyalty to them is entirely one-sided, and it’s going to be painful when you find out.

My loyalty to them doesn't exist.

Anyway, dismantling the government can only be beneficial if it is done with the aim of dismantling capitalism, by attacking the functions that enforce capitalism.

Naw.

Attacking the parks service while leaving the police intact is detrimental to your welfare to the extreme.

Cool, I'll continue not advocating for that.

And yes, I routinely take actions that might disadvantage me in the short term but which benefit others in the short term, and therefore benefit me in the long term.

Would you like a lollipop?

[Forsher]

You’re not a government of one. The world doesn’t revolve around you.

Interalise that thought and stop having the same handful of arguments with him over and over and over as if the world did revolve around him.

The hypocrisy.

[Emotional Support Crocodile]

Steve Bannon's reaction to the Trump trading cards is slightly surprising to me

"I can't do this anymore," Steve Bannon, a right-wing media commentator and former chief strategist for Mr Trump, said about the sale on his podcast.

Anyone involved in the project "ought to be fired today," he added.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

It is already completely useless

We shall see. Will you acknowledge if you are wrong if he is convicted?

No, because it is very clear the FBI has been anti Trump and anti right wing Republicans for years, it is very clear the Leftist Democrat Hypocrites Jan 6 Committee is an anti Trump Political Kangaroo Court. Nancy Pelosi blocked 2 Republicans that wanted to be on the Committee to Defend President Trump. Because President Trump did not order anyone to storm the Capitol Building, did not order anyone to commit any acts of violence, actually the opposite, did not ask or order anyone to overthrow the us government. Adam Schiff twisted President's Trump's words against him on national TV to make him sound like a Mob Boss, The Leftists Liberal Democrat Progressives, VIPs and the Leftist Media are Not Political Saints.

[The Jamesian Republic]

Steve Bannon's reaction to the Trump trading cards is slightly surprising to me

"I can't do this anymore," Steve Bannon, a right-wing media commentator and former chief strategist for Mr Trump, said about the sale on his podcast.

Anyone involved in the project "ought to be fired today," he added.

This is a change.

[Stylan]

Steve Bannon's reaction to the Trump trading cards is slightly surprising to me

"I can't do this anymore," Steve Bannon, a right-wing media commentator and former chief strategist for Mr Trump, said about the sale on his podcast.

Anyone involved in the project "ought to be fired today," he added.

Bannon has always been more sane than most of Trump's sycophants, this isn't surprising.

[The Jamesian Republic]

We shall see. Will you acknowledge if you are wrong if he is convicted?

No, because it is very clear the FBI has been anti Trump and anti right wing Republicans for years, it is very clear the Leftist Democrat Hypocrites Jan 6 Committee is an anti Trump Political Kangaroo Court. Nancy Pelosi blocked 2 Republicans that wanted to be on the Committee to Defend President Trump. Adam Schiff twisted President's Trump's words against him on national TV to make him sound like a Mob Boss, The Leftists Liberal Democrat Progressives, VIPs and the Leftist Media are Not Political Saints.

Then what did Trump mean to say then?

[Mountains and Volcanoes]

No, because it is very clear the FBI has been anti Trump and anti right wing Republicans for years, it is very clear the Leftist Democrat Hypocrites Jan 6 Committee is an anti Trump Political Kangaroo Court. Nancy Pelosi blocked 2 Republicans that wanted to be on the Committee to Defend President Trump. Adam Schiff twisted President's Trump's words against him on national TV to make him sound like a Mob Boss, The Leftists Liberal Democrat Progressives, VIPs and the Leftist Media are Not Political Saints.

Then what did Trump mean to say then?

Something something Right wing something something pro-Trump... something something Evil Democrats & Media...

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

No, because it is very clear the FBI has been anti Trump and anti right wing Republicans for years, it is very clear the Leftist Democrat Hypocrites Jan 6 Committee is an anti Trump Political Kangaroo Court. Nancy Pelosi blocked 2 Republicans that wanted to be on the Committee to Defend President Trump. Adam Schiff twisted President's Trump's words against him on national TV to make him sound like a Mob Boss, The Leftists Liberal Democrat Progressives, VIPs and the Leftist Media are Not Political Saints.

Then what did Trump mean to say then?

Protest Peacefully and Patriotically, the Trump Rally was to support and persuade Republican Politicians to challenge the certified electoral votes of certain states legally, like certain Democrat leftists challenged the certified electoral votes of certain states against President Trump and other Republicans in the past, using the same and or similar words that certain Republicans used in favor of President Trump. But you guys don't criticize them for doing the same. I have posted about this with video links in the past. The Leftist Democrat Hypocrites anti Trump Political kangaroo court includes at least 2 anti Trump election deniers and you guys don't criticize them for it. There have been and their will be Democrat election loss deniers and claimers due to alleged election vote fraud in the USA in the future, it is part of politics in the USA and other nations. All American citizens have a right to challenge election results if they think there has been vote fraud. The Leftist Democrats most famous election loss denier Hypocrite is Stacey Abrams and you guys don't criticize her for it.

[Yerachmeal]

No, because it is very clear the FBI has been anti Trump and anti right wing Republicans for years, it is very clear the Leftist Democrat Hypocrites Jan 6 Committee is an anti Trump Political Kangaroo Court.

It is the republicans own fault that the FBI is biased. It's becoming political because the GOP is making it political, by trying to shut down or alter it (depending on the republican).

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

Then what did Trump mean to say then?

Something something Right wing something something pro-Trump... something something Evil Democrats & Media...

and what do you think many Leftist Democrat Politicians, Biden, Charlie Crist, VIPs and the Leftist Media says about Republicans? Something something, Evil Trump, Evil Republicans, a threat to Democracy and Evil Fascist Nazis, which we are not.

[Yerachmeal]

Something something Right wing something something pro-Trump... something something Evil Democrats & Media...

and what do you think many Leftist Democrat Politicians, Biden, Charly Crist, VIPs and the Leftist Media says about Republicans? Something something, Evil Trump, Evil Republicans, a threat to Democracy and Evil Fascist Nazis, which we are not.

Has it occurred to you that this may not be a good defense for the Rightist Republican Politicians, Trump, Zeldin, MTG, and the rightest Media saying equally outrageous things about the democrats?

[The Jamesian Republic]

Then what did Trump mean to say then?

Protest Peacefully and Patriotically, the Trump Rally was to support and persuade Republican Politicians to challenge the certified electoral votes of certain states legally, like certain Democrat leftists challenged the certified electoral votes of certain states against President Trump and other Republicans in the past, using the same and or similar words that certain Republicans used in favor of President Trump. But you guys don't criticize them for doing the same. I have posted about this with video links in the past. The Leftist Democrat Hypocrites anti Trump Political kangaroo court includes at least 2 anti Trump election deniers and you guys don't criticize them for it. There have been and their will be Democrat election loss deniers and claimers due to alleged election vote fraud in the USA in the future, it is part of politics in the USA and other nations. All American citizens have a right to challenge election results if they think there has been vote fraud. The Leftist Democrats most famous election loss denier Hypocrite is Stacey Abrams and you guys don't criticize her for it.

Nobody said it was illegal to challenge election results, they just said it’s dumb. It is illegal however to be complicit in inciting a riot and illegal activities.

Also I did not mention anything about Democrats or Stacey Abrams, and yes it is just as dumb for them to challenge results too.