American Politics XV: Trump and '24 Already....

[Thermodolia]

The law just says that congress has to recognize the result, it doesn’t say when they have to do so. Just that they do.

So... any time after Year 200,000,000 CE?

Pretty much. Congress could wait until the heat death of the universe to recognize the result and it would still technically be legal

[American Legionaries]

So... any time after Year 200,000,000 CE?

Pretty much. Congress could wait until the heat death of the universe to recognize the result and it would still technically be legal

Congress passing a resolution to admit Puerto Rico as a state like 1,000 years from now would be peak American politics.

[San Lumen]

https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/ ... rry-hogan/

Maryland Governor-elect Wes Moore, family tours Government House with outgoing Gov. Larry Hogan

Government House is what they call the Governor’s mansion.


Moore will be the states first black governor when he takes office next month.

[Timsvill]

I think Republicans are smart enough to not reelect Trump and the very early polls are showing this. Ron Desantis is leading in early Republican Primary polls.

[Ascendant Yugoslavia]

I think Republicans are smart enough to not reelect Trump and the very early polls are showing this. Ron Desantis is leading in early Republican Primary polls.

Pretty much, especially considering Trump's latest antics. Also, DeSantis has an extremely high approval rating for an American politician.

[San Lumen]

I think Republicans are smart enough to not reelect Trump and the very early polls are showing this. Ron Desantis is leading in early Republican Primary polls.

That doesn't mean DeSantis is a guaranteed national winner. That said he should not be underestimated.

[San Lumen]

https://apnews.com/article/biden-busine ... 16f63c1cef

US poised to ban shark fin trade, pleasing conservationists

[Nora Xent]

I think Republicans are smart enough to not reelect Trump and the very early polls are showing this. Ron Desantis is leading in early Republican Primary polls.

That doesn't mean DeSantis is a guaranteed national winner. That said he should not be underestimated.

There was genuine populist appeal in trump. He may have been ultra-rich but he wasn't an 'insider' in the political system, Don DeSantis is the comical establishment figure who pretends that he is anti-establishment.

[San Lumen]

That doesn't mean DeSantis is a guaranteed national winner. That said he should not be underestimated.

There was genuine populist appeal in trump. He may have been ultra-rich but he wasn't an 'insider' in the political system, Don DeSantis is the comical establishment figure who pretends that he is anti-establishment.

here we go again with this term establishment. Who isn't establishment?

[Nora Xent]

There was genuine populist appeal in trump. He may have been ultra-rich but he wasn't an 'insider' in the political system, Don DeSantis is the comical establishment figure who pretends that he is anti-establishment.

here we go again with this term establishment. Who isn't establishment?

He went too two ivy league schools, had token military service, was US Representative for two seconds before deciding to run for governor. Tell me how that is NOT a political establishment figure?

[San Lumen]

here we go again with this term establishment. Who isn't establishment?

He went too two ivy league schools, had token military service, was US Representative for two seconds before deciding to run for governor. Tell me how that is NOT a political establishment figure?

It seems anyone who went to college, served in the military, owns a business or has any prior political experience is establishment.

Does Trump meet your definition of non establishment or AOC?

[Nora Xent]

He went too two ivy league schools, had token military service, was US Representative for two seconds before deciding to run for governor. Tell me how that is NOT a political establishment figure?

It seems anyone who went to college, served in the military, owns a business or has any prior political experience is establishment.

Does Trump meet your definition of non establishment or AOC?

And oh was possibly a member of a secret society that the bushes were apart of.

[San Lumen]

It seems anyone who went to college, served in the military, owns a business or has any prior political experience is establishment.

Does Trump meet your definition of non establishment or AOC?

And oh was possibly a member of a secret society that the bushes were apart of.

I doubt you know anything about that secret society.

Trump and AOC are therefore not establishment because they never held elected office before running?

I don't mind legislators at the state or federal level having no prior experience but i'd generally prefer a president or governor to have some prior experience before running but depending upon candidate i'd be willing to set this aside.

[Nora Xent]

And oh was possibly a member of a secret society that the bushes were apart of.

I doubt you know anything about that secret society.

Trump and AOC are therefore not establishment because they never held elected office before running?

I don't mind legislators at the state or federal level having no prior experience but i'd generally prefer a president or governor to have some prior experience before running but depending upon candidate i'd be willing to set this aside.

The things together create an establishment figure.

[San Lumen]

I doubt you know anything about that secret society.

Trump and AOC are therefore not establishment because they never held elected office before running?

I don't mind legislators at the state or federal level having no prior experience but i'd generally prefer a president or governor to have some prior experience before running but depending upon candidate i'd be willing to set this aside.

The things together create an establishment figure.

I dont understand. If someone has all those things they are establishment but are missing one they are not?

[Nora Xent]

The things together create an establishment figure.

I dont understand. If someone has all those things they are establishment but are missing one they are not?

Think about the things I said Lumen, think about them really hard. Because than you would realize that I am saying that he is the most establishment figure the GOP has ever created.

[San Lumen]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jan-6-doug ... sentenced/

Jan. 6 "poster boy of the insurrection" Doug Jensen sentenced to 5 years in prison


Jensen was featured in a segment of the Late Show with Stephen Colbert called Seditionist round up

[Ascendant Yugoslavia]

https://apnews.com/article/biden-business-china-asia-sharks-e3ae874e35a82e4766302616f63c1cef

US poised to ban shark fin trade, pleasing conservationists

Finally good news about fisheries. Finning is utterly cruel and barbaric. The finners don't even keep the rest of the shark, they slice the fins off and throw back the living, breathing shark to die since it will drown. If you catch and keep a shark, you better eat all of it or sell the parts you don't eat. Better yet, don't eat sharks as they are under threat from us.

[Nazi Flower Power]

here we go again with this term establishment. Who isn't establishment?

He went too two ivy league schools, had token military service, was US Representative for two seconds before deciding to run for governor. Tell me how that is NOT a political establishment figure?

Being "establishment" is one of the least important issues with DeSantis. The guy is a flake.

[American Legionaries]

He went too two ivy league schools, had token military service, was US Representative for two seconds before deciding to run for governor. Tell me how that is NOT a political establishment figure?

Being "establishment" is one of the least important issues with DeSantis. The guy is a flake.

He looks pretty round to me.

[Nora Xent]

He went too two ivy league schools, had token military service, was US Representative for two seconds before deciding to run for governor. Tell me how that is NOT a political establishment figure?

Being "establishment" is one of the least important issues with DeSantis. The guy is a flake.

Oh I know. But there is a reason trump at least had populist outsider appeal, DeSantis has none of that and will be the most flopulist flopulist to ever do an election.

[American Legionaries]

Being "establishment" is one of the least important issues with DeSantis. The guy is a flake.

Oh I know. But there is a reason trump at least had populist outsider appeal, DeSantis has none of that and will be the most flopulist flopulist to ever do an election.

He might be a fake populist, but he can form real coherent sentences.

[Nora Xent]

Oh I know. But there is a reason trump at least had populist outsider appeal, DeSantis has none of that and will be the most flopulist flopulist to ever do an election.

He might be a fake populist, but he can form real coherent sentences.

He sounds like a girl, so no.

[New-Minneapolis]

Oh I know. But there is a reason trump at least had populist outsider appeal, DeSantis has none of that and will be the most flopulist flopulist to ever do an election.

He might be a fake populist, but he can form real coherent sentences.

All of this populism is just plain sickening.

He might be a fake populist, but he can form real coherent sentences.

He sounds like a girl, so no.

Elon Musk, confirmed femboy. But I shouldn’t insult femboys by comparing them to Elon Musk.

[Nazi Flower Power]

There was genuine populist appeal in trump. He may have been ultra-rich but he wasn't an 'insider' in the political system, Don DeSantis is the comical establishment figure who pretends that he is anti-establishment.

here we go again with this term establishment. Who isn't establishment?

The more important question is why the fuck should we give a shit who's establishment?

People had some legitimate complaints in 2016 about Jeb Bush and Hillary Clinton, where their main selling point was their connection to past presidents. Other "establishment" politicians aren't necessarily building their careers on who their daddy is or who they are married to. Having professional connections is not the same thing as nepotism.