American Politics XV: Trump and '24 Already....

[Nora Xent]

How likely is this to pass the senate?

Probably likely. There’s at least 7 republicans who support it.

you need 60 senators to get this passed through the filibuster however. 7 is a good start however.

[Eahland]

How likely is this to pass the senate?

Probably likely. There’s at least 7 republicans who support it.

Need 10 just to bring it to a vote.

[Thermodolia]

How likely is this to pass the senate?

About as likely as the return of the 1980s brown aesthetic to interior design.

I don’t think so. Both Florida senators are on record supporting such legislation, Rubio very much. Cruz has also supported the idea.

[Ifreann]

About as likely as the return of the 1980s brown aesthetic to interior design.

I don’t think so. Both Florida senators are on record supporting such legislation, Rubio very much. Cruz has also supported the idea.

Cruz is clearly angling to set a precedent to admit his home nation to the union.

[Farnhamia]

I don’t think so. Both Florida senators are on record supporting such legislation, Rubio very much. Cruz has also supported the idea.

Cruz is clearly angling to set a precedent to admit his home nation to the union.

Canada?

[Ifreann]

Cruz is clearly angling to set a precedent to admit his home nation to the union.

Canada?

Canada. America's Skyrim.

[Port Caverton]

I don’t think so. Both Florida senators are on record supporting such legislation, Rubio very much. Cruz has also supported the idea.

Cruz is clearly angling to set a precedent to admit his home nation to the union.

Wtf I love Ted Cruz now!

Canada should have been part of America a long time ago.

[Perikuresu]

PR Status Bill passes 233-191 with some GOP support, now goes to Senate

Seems like Congress is ready to commit itself to a final decision on Puerto Rico's status, one can only hope it passes the Senate. (if it even reaches it in the first place)

[Senkaku]

Trump has released trading cards depicting "his greatest successes". You can buy one for the cheap price of 99 USD.

Do note that they are digital, so you do not even get something you can burn.

Between this and the Politico story today about DeSantis’s 2024 polling lead over him, I’m gonna go out on a limb and say I think the old man may finally be done. I think by the time 2024 rolls around, enough of his erstwhile allies and supporters will have found substitutes they prefer or can at least tolerate that even if they don’t all unite around one, I could imagine even two or three challengers running ahead of him in the primaries.

[San Lumen]

How likely is this to pass the senate?

Probably likely. There’s at least 7 republicans who support it.

The question is if Puerto Rico approves statehood do they receive it by 2024 ?

[Perikuresu]

Probably likely. There’s at least 7 republicans who support it.

The question is if Puerto Rico approves statehood do they receive it by 2024 ?

how long did it take for Hawaii & Alaska when their bid was approved? Precedence can help

[Eahland]

The question is if Puerto Rico approves statehood do they receive it by 2024 ?

how long did it take for Hawaii & Alaska when their bid was approved? Precedence can help

It was six months or so from the approval of the respective Admission Acts to actual statehood. Puerto Rico is not nearly that far along in the process, though. This is just approving an act to approve holding a referendum to make a decision to possibly apply for statehood. I don't think it's going to happen in two years. I'm dubious about it even making it to vote in the Senate.

[Thermodolia]

how long did it take for Hawaii & Alaska when their bid was approved? Precedence can help

It was six months or so from the approval of the respective Admission Acts to actual statehood. Puerto Rico is not nearly that far along in the process, though. This is just approving an act to approve holding a referendum to make a decision to possibly apply for statehood. I don't think it's going to happen in two years. I'm dubious about it even making it to vote in the Senate.

I think it will make the vote in the senate as it’s just a referendum on the matter, congress would still have to approve the results. And if congress doesn’t vote than nothing happens and PR remains in limbo land.

For a lot of republicans that’s fine for them. They get to say that they did something without actually having to support the final result

[Cannot think of a name]

The question is if Puerto Rico approves statehood do they receive it by 2024 ?

how long did it take for Hawaii & Alaska when their bid was approved? Precedence can help

Hawai'i had been attacked. Between having an official presence in butt fuck nowhere Pacific Ocean and Dole there was good old fashion Imperialism that rushed Hawai'i along. I didn't know shit about Alaska, really, so a brief google tells me that shit took 13 years.

Also it tells me that during WWII Russians were stealing US planes off the field and using them to fight the Germans? Gonna have to follow up on that. Sounds like I'm missing a lot.

[Haganham]

Cruz is clearly angling to set a precedent to admit his home nation to the union.

Wtf I love Ted Cruz now!

Canada should have been part of America a long time ago.

finally gonna get those extra 5 units a turn!

[Myrensis]

I feel like not enough people are talking about the fact that former President Donald J. Trump described his own Presidency as better than Lincoln and better than Washington. This is an irrational statement unsupported by his presidential record.

Trump talking out of his ass, is it a day ending -day again all ready?

If he weren't a greasy orange stain on the world I could actually almost feel bad for him though, given how many of his cult have abandoned him for shiny new Daddy DeSantis and his go-go boots. Though it is kind of funny watching the same people who have spent the last 6 years adamantly defending him now professing to be shocked and appalled to discover that he was Donald Trump all along.

[Autumn Wind]

Also it tells me that during WWII Russians were stealing US planes off the field and using them to fight the Germans? Gonna have to follow up on that. Sounds like I'm missing a lot.

When US bombers were bombing Japan, sometimes they would have fuel or technical issues and would have to ditch in Russian territory instead of making a return trip. Russia would impound the planes on the grounds that they weren’t technically at war with Japan at the time and didn’t return the planes after the war ended. It’s why the Tu-4 is basically a B-29 with the serial numbers filed off.

[Autumn Wind]

Wtf I love Ted Cruz now!

Canada should have been part of America a long time ago.

finally gonna get those extra 5 units a turn!

You’d also need to also conquer Central America to get them, unfortunately. It would, however, solve the illegal immigration problem as the immigrants would become US citizens by default.

[San Lumen]

It was six months or so from the approval of the respective Admission Acts to actual statehood. Puerto Rico is not nearly that far along in the process, though. This is just approving an act to approve holding a referendum to make a decision to possibly apply for statehood. I don't think it's going to happen in two years. I'm dubious about it even making it to vote in the Senate.

I think it will make the vote in the senate as it’s just a referendum on the matter, congress would still have to approve the results. And if congress doesn’t vote than nothing happens and PR remains in limbo land.

For a lot of republicans that’s fine for them. They get to say that they did something without actually having to support the final result

Puerto Rico has voted multiple times to become a state and congress has done nothing.

[Thermodolia]

I think it will make the vote in the senate as it’s just a referendum on the matter, congress would still have to approve the results. And if congress doesn’t vote than nothing happens and PR remains in limbo land.

For a lot of republicans that’s fine for them. They get to say that they did something without actually having to support the final result

Puerto Rico has voted multiple times to become a state and congress has done nothing.

Exactly. Which is why this referendum bill will pass as congress still has to pass a law making the result legal. Which probably won’t happen for awhile anyway.

It ends the debate about PRs status without actually doing anything

[Bewaffnete Krafte]

I think it will make the vote in the senate as it’s just a referendum on the matter, congress would still have to approve the results. And if congress doesn’t vote than nothing happens and PR remains in limbo land.

For a lot of republicans that’s fine for them. They get to say that they did something without actually having to support the final result

Puerto Rico has voted multiple times to become a state and congress has done nothing.

Those referenda were not legally binding. I don't know what'll happen if this passes, but if Congress fails to acknowledge a legitimite, binding referendum, the Reps probably won't keep or gain either house in 2024.

[Eahland]

Puerto Rico has voted multiple times to become a state and congress has done nothing.

Those referenda were not legally binding. I don't know what'll happen if this passes, but if Congress fails to acknowledge a legitimite, binding referendum, the Reps probably won't keep or gain either house in 2024.

I think you're overestimating how much non-Puerto-Ricans care about Puerto Rico.

The 2024 Senate elections are going to be ugly. Democrats are on the defensive... they have 23 seats up (including independents that caucus with them), and the Republicans have only 10. None of the Republican seats are plausible flips, and there are 7 Democratic seats up in states that voted for Trump at least once. That includes Sinema, and fuck knows what's going to happen there.

[San Lumen]

https://www.fox5atlanta.com/news/georgi ... puties-say

Georgia House representative-elect charged with taking medications from assisted living home, deputies say

[Thermodolia]

Puerto Rico has voted multiple times to become a state and congress has done nothing.

Those referenda were not legally binding. I don't know what'll happen if this passes, but if Congress fails to acknowledge a legitimite, binding referendum, the Reps probably won't keep or gain either house in 2024.

The law just says that congress has to recognize the result, it doesn’t say when they have to do so. Just that they do.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Those referenda were not legally binding. I don't know what'll happen if this passes, but if Congress fails to acknowledge a legitimite, binding referendum, the Reps probably won't keep or gain either house in 2024.

The law just says that congress has to recognize the result, it doesn’t say when they have to do so. Just that they do.

So... any time after Year 200,000,000 CE?