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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:26 pm

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The Alma Mater wrote:Trump has released trading cards depicting "his greatest successes". You can buy one for the cheap price of 99 USD.

Do note that they are digital, so you do not even get something you can burn.


Yuppers.

Still. Even if there were physical cards. They aren’t worth getting so burning is not an option.

Having said that? There will be many morons who will buy them.

But he donated his salary so...something.
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Postby Bravrudnia » Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:27 pm

I feel like not enough people are talking about the fact that former President Donald J. Trump described his own Presidency as better than Lincoln and better than Washington. This is an irrational statement unsupported by his presidential record.

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Postby New-Minneapolis » Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:29 pm

The Alma Mater wrote:Trump has released trading cards depicting "his greatest successes". You can buy one for the cheap price of 99 USD.

Do note that they are digital, so you do not even get something you can burn.


I bet 50 bucks that the motherfucker didn’t know what an NFT was before somebody told him he can make a grift off it
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:29 pm

Bravrudnia wrote:I feel like not enough people are talking about the fact that former President Donald J. Trump described his own Presidency as better than Lincoln and better than Washington. This is an irrational statement unsupported by his presidential record.

What would you like to say about it?
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Postby New-Minneapolis » Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:29 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Bravrudnia wrote:I feel like not enough people are talking about the fact that former President Donald J. Trump described his own Presidency as better than Lincoln and better than Washington. This is an irrational statement unsupported by his presidential record.

What would you like to say about it?


I mean he’s doing it deliberately troll
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:29 pm

New-Minneapolis wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:Trump has released trading cards depicting "his greatest successes". You can buy one for the cheap price of 99 USD.

Do note that they are digital, so you do not even get something you can burn.


I bet 50 bucks that the motherfucker didn’t know what an NFT was before somebody told him he can make a grift off it

I'm willing to bet he still doesn't.
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Postby Mountains and Volcanoes » Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:29 pm

Bravrudnia wrote:I feel like not enough people are talking about the fact that former President Donald J. Trump described his own Presidency as better than Lincoln and better than Washington. This is an irrational statement unsupported by his presidential record.
Wait... what?!
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Postby Bravrudnia » Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:31 pm

Mountains and Volcanoes wrote:
Bravrudnia wrote:I feel like not enough people are talking about the fact that former President Donald J. Trump described his own Presidency as better than Lincoln and better than Washington. This is an irrational statement unsupported by his presidential record.
Wait... what?!


Search "Collect Trump Cards", go to this website, and watch the video on the front page. May have changed since I last watched it. But yeah, he self-described as better than Lincoln and better than Washington.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:32 pm

New-Minneapolis wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:What would you like to say about it?


I mean he’s doing it deliberately troll

Him being his own ridiculous hype man with no sense of scope is hardly man bites dog. Seems like a normal Thursday for him. So...what is there to talk about really? "Trump continues to overestimate himself shocker?"
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Postby Bravrudnia » Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:33 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
New-Minneapolis wrote:
I mean he’s doing it deliberately troll

Him being his own ridiculous hype man with no sense of scope is hardly man bites dog. Seems like a normal Thursday for him. So...what is there to talk about really? "Trump continues to overestimate himself shocker?"


I feel like this represents a new low, even for him.

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Postby Mountains and Volcanoes » Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:36 pm

Bravrudnia wrote:
Mountains and Volcanoes wrote:Wait... what?!
Search "Collect Trump Cards", go to this website, and watch the video on the front page. May have changed since I last watched it. But yeah, he self-described as better than Lincoln and better than Washington.
Nope, not there...
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Postby Bravrudnia » Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:39 pm

Mountains and Volcanoes wrote:
Bravrudnia wrote:Search "Collect Trump Cards", go to this website, and watch the video on the front page. May have changed since I last watched it. But yeah, he self-described as better than Lincoln and better than Washington.
Nope, not there...

Click the top image.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:43 pm

Bravrudnia wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Him being his own ridiculous hype man with no sense of scope is hardly man bites dog. Seems like a normal Thursday for him. So...what is there to talk about really? "Trump continues to overestimate himself shocker?"


I feel like this represents a new low, even for him.

Eh. He's compared himself to Lincoln before. Often even. If you want people to talk about it it's gonna have to be you. Dude's not president anymore, he has to reach harder to be newsworthy.
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Postby Eahland » Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:44 pm

Bravrudnia wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Him being his own ridiculous hype man with no sense of scope is hardly man bites dog. Seems like a normal Thursday for him. So...what is there to talk about really? "Trump continues to overestimate himself shocker?"


I feel like this represents a new low, even for him.

No, really, "Trump foments insurrection in an effort to block the legitimate transfer of power" is way lower than "Trump's a narcissistic blowhard".
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Postby Bravrudnia » Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:47 pm

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Bravrudnia wrote:
I feel like this represents a new low, even for him.

No, really, "Trump foments insurrection in an effort to block the legitimate transfer of power" is way lower than "Trump's a narcissistic blowhard".


A low in rhetoric is different than a low in behavior. To me, the worst thing he ever did was separate children from their parents. Whatever you think about immigration, I can't think of anything eviler than that.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:55 pm

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Eahland wrote:No, really, "Trump foments insurrection in an effort to block the legitimate transfer of power" is way lower than "Trump's a narcissistic blowhard".


A low in rhetoric is different than a low in behavior. To me, the worst thing he ever did was separate children from their parents. Whatever you think about immigration, I can't think of anything eviler than that.

Trying to rank all the bad things Trump has done seems like a pointless exercise.
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Postby Eahland » Thu Dec 15, 2022 4:02 pm

Bravrudnia wrote:
Eahland wrote:No, really, "Trump foments insurrection in an effort to block the legitimate transfer of power" is way lower than "Trump's a narcissistic blowhard".


A low in rhetoric is different than a low in behavior. To me, the worst thing he ever did was separate children from their parents. Whatever you think about immigration, I can't think of anything eviler than that.

I mean, leaving aside that the fomenting insurrection was rhetoric — it's not like Trump was going to risk his own lardass smashing cops with fire extinguishers... there's a wide variety of racist, misogynist, and actually damaging rhetoric to choose from before you get to "he compared himself favorably to a couple of his predecessors".
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Postby El Lazaro » Thu Dec 15, 2022 4:17 pm

Bravrudnia wrote:I feel like not enough people are talking about the fact that former President Donald J. Trump described his own Presidency as better than Lincoln and better than Washington. This is an irrational statement unsupported by his presidential record.

Trump continuously implies he is the Second Coming. He said that he’s the “King of the Jews” while denouncing American Jews as traitors, that he’s the only person comparable to Jesus, that he’s done more for Christianity than anyone else, that Jesus was the only person more influential/beloved than him, that he was sent from heaven/by God, that he is the most honest/perfect person ever, and on innumerable occasions, that he’s the Chosen One. Lincoln was, by all accounts, just a guy with guts and ideals that ended up in office at at a big moment. Claiming to be God though? Granted, Trump is probably not actually religious and it’s just meaningless ego inflation to him, but it is difficult to say something more outrageous in terms of narcissistic boasting.

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Postby Big Bad Blue » Thu Dec 15, 2022 4:37 pm

El Lazaro wrote:
Bravrudnia wrote:I feel like not enough people are talking about the fact that former President Donald J. Trump described his own Presidency as better than Lincoln and better than Washington. This is an irrational statement unsupported by his presidential record.

Trump continuously implies he is the Second Coming. He said that he’s the “King of the Jews” while denouncing American Jews as traitors, that he’s the only person comparable to Jesus, that he’s done more for Christianity than anyone else, that Jesus was the only person more influential/beloved than him, that he was sent from heaven/by God, that he is the most honest/perfect person ever, and on innumerable occasions, that he’s the Chosen One. Lincoln was, by all accounts, just a guy with guts and ideals that ended up in office at at a big moment. Claiming to be God though? Granted, Trump is probably not actually religious and it’s just meaningless ego inflation to him, but it is difficult to say something more outrageous in terms of narcissistic boasting.


His utterances are consistently unmoored from facts or logic. Everything the defeated, disgraced former president says is calculated to serve his momentary interest and nothing else. He can, and has, contradicted himself multiple times without drawing breath. Every word out of the man's mouth is a lie, including "and" and "the."
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Postby Umeria » Thu Dec 15, 2022 4:43 pm

Big Bad Blue wrote:Every word out of the man's mouth is a lie, including "and" and "the."

Now we just have to get Trump to say "this statement is false"
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Postby American Legionaries » Thu Dec 15, 2022 4:44 pm

El Lazaro wrote:
Bravrudnia wrote:I feel like not enough people are talking about the fact that former President Donald J. Trump described his own Presidency as better than Lincoln and better than Washington. This is an irrational statement unsupported by his presidential record.

Trump continuously implies he is the Second Coming. He said that he’s the “King of the Jews” while denouncing American Jews as traitors, that he’s the only person comparable to Jesus, that he’s done more for Christianity than anyone else, that Jesus was the only person more influential/beloved than him, that he was sent from heaven/by God, that he is the most honest/perfect person ever, and on innumerable occasions, that he’s the Chosen One. Lincoln was, by all accounts, just a guy with guts and ideals that ended up in office at at a big moment. Claiming to be God though? Granted, Trump is probably not actually religious and it’s just meaningless ego inflation to him, but it is difficult to say something more outrageous in terms of narcissistic boasting.


He probably thinks he's the most humble president, too.

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Postby New-Minneapolis » Thu Dec 15, 2022 5:09 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:Trump continuously implies he is the Second Coming. He said that he’s the “King of the Jews” while denouncing American Jews as traitors, that he’s the only person comparable to Jesus, that he’s done more for Christianity than anyone else, that Jesus was the only person more influential/beloved than him, that he was sent from heaven/by God, that he is the most honest/perfect person ever, and on innumerable occasions, that he’s the Chosen One. Lincoln was, by all accounts, just a guy with guts and ideals that ended up in office at at a big moment. Claiming to be God though? Granted, Trump is probably not actually religious and it’s just meaningless ego inflation to him, but it is difficult to say something more outrageous in terms of narcissistic boasting.


He probably thinks he's the most humble president, too.


The mother fucker probably thinks he legit has a body of an 1980s Sylvester Stallone. He is really fucked in the head
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Postby Platoon of Peace » Thu Dec 15, 2022 5:12 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
El Lazaro wrote:Trump continuously implies he is the Second Coming. He said that he’s the “King of the Jews” while denouncing American Jews as traitors, that he’s the only person comparable to Jesus, that he’s done more for Christianity than anyone else, that Jesus was the only person more influential/beloved than him, that he was sent from heaven/by God, that he is the most honest/perfect person ever, and on innumerable occasions, that he’s the Chosen One. Lincoln was, by all accounts, just a guy with guts and ideals that ended up in office at at a big moment. Claiming to be God though? Granted, Trump is probably not actually religious and it’s just meaningless ego inflation to him, but it is difficult to say something more outrageous in terms of narcissistic boasting.


He probably thinks he's the most humble president, too.

Trump seems like the kind of guy to hear The Lonely Island's I'm So Humble and think "wow, that perfectly describes me!"
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He probably thinks he's the most humble president, too.


The mother fucker probably thinks he legit has a body of an 1980s Sylvester Stallone. He is really fucked in the head

I know that we love to bash trump around here, but why do you bring up his body at any moment you can?
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Postby American Legionaries » Thu Dec 15, 2022 5:12 pm

New-Minneapolis wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
He probably thinks he's the most humble president, too.


The mother fucker probably thinks he legit has a body of an 1980s Sylvester Stallone. He is really fucked in the head


Probably, lol.

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Dec 15, 2022 5:41 pm

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How likely is this to pass the senate?

Probably likely. There’s at least 7 republicans who support it.
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