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Postby Drongonia » Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:10 pm

New-Minneapolis wrote:
Platoon of Peace wrote:Why stop at people from "hostile regimes"? Why should we let google do it as well?


Regarding American companies, we should adopt similar privacy laws as Germany does. But Google does not have malicious intent, the CCP does

My brother in Christ, Google literally tracks the speed and direction you're walking at with your phone in your pocket. Not to mention they reported a father to the Police as a pedophile for sending a doctor a photo of his child's medical condition. How is that not malicious?
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Postby New-Minneapolis » Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:17 pm

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New-Minneapolis wrote:
Regarding American companies, we should adopt similar privacy laws as Germany does. But Google does not have malicious intent, the CCP does

My brother in Christ, Google literally tracks the speed and direction you're walking at with your phone in your pocket. Not to mention they reported a father to the Police as a pedophile for sending a doctor a photo of his child's medical condition. How is that not malicious?


Unfortunately, when it comes to fighting CSAM, there are going to be cases like this. I know that as someone getting a degree in cyber security. The public wants both private and public entities to fight this plague and scourge on our society. There’s going to be some civil liberties are going to be traded for this. That is just inevitable. This also reiterates the importance of taking yourself and/or your child for in person visits, especially when it comes to healthcare of or the area surrounding the groin.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:36 pm

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Literally 1984.

Well, if you said it enough times it would eventually become applicable.
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Postby New-Minneapolis » Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:37 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Literally 1984.

Well, if you said it enough times it would eventually become applicable.


I believe the 2024 Republican platform is going to call for a national ban on transgender healthcare, even for adults.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:45 pm

New-Minneapolis wrote:U.S. Gas Prices Are Now Lower Than a Year Ago

Biden should be advertising this

He can't take credit anymore than he could take blame.
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Postby Drongonia » Thu Dec 15, 2022 12:21 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Literally 1984.

Well, if you said it enough times it would eventually become applicable.

Texas Republicans are really out here being like "ahah hey you're cute what's your number and social media so I can totally block you"

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Postby Perikuresu » Thu Dec 15, 2022 3:30 am

Shrillland wrote:House to vote on PR Status Act tomorrow

This would lead to a binding final referendum on PR's status if both Houses approve it.

The house will most likely pass it, however I doubt the Senate will since Manchin and Sinema exists. From what I heard, Manchin might be able to be reasoned with but I'm not sure about Sinema.

Not sure if it'll reach the Senate by the time of the next congress, not that it matters since I'm pretty sure all bills not passed by the time a new congress starts are going to have to restart the process again???

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Postby Platoon of Peace » Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:43 am

New-Minneapolis wrote:
Drongonia wrote:My brother in Christ, Google literally tracks the speed and direction you're walking at with your phone in your pocket. Not to mention they reported a father to the Police as a pedophile for sending a doctor a photo of his child's medical condition. How is that not malicious?


Unfortunately, when it comes to fighting CSAM, there are going to be cases like this. I know that as someone getting a degree in cyber security. The public wants both private and public entities to fight this plague and scourge on our society. There’s going to be some civil liberties are going to be traded for this. That is just inevitable. This also reiterates the importance of taking yourself and/or your child for in person visits, especially when it comes to healthcare of or the area surrounding the groin.

I disagree with like 90% of what you just said. You can't just say "oh this happens sometimes" when it happens all the time, and with one of if not the most powerful tech companies out there. I shouldn't have to trade my location for the ability to look something up. And idk why you're saying that virtual visits are much more important then in person ones. In person ones are an inconvenience a fair amount of the time, I'd love to be able to just call my doctor and schedule a zoom meeting, because it's much easier for my plans and whatnot.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:45 am

New-Minneapolis wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Patriotically turning over my private information to AMERICAN international tech companies, to own the commies.


I mean, if you trust the Chinese communist party more than American tech companies, that is your prerogative

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Dec 15, 2022 7:26 am

Shrillland wrote:House to vote on PR Status Act tomorrow

This would lead to a binding final referendum on PR's status if both Houses approve it.

I think this actually has a chance at passing the senate given that Rubio and other republicans support it
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Postby -Astoria- » Thu Dec 15, 2022 7:27 am

Ifreann wrote:
New-Minneapolis wrote:
I mean, if you trust the Chinese communist party more than American tech companies, that is your prerogative

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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Dec 15, 2022 7:29 am

Perikuresu wrote:
Shrillland wrote:House to vote on PR Status Act tomorrow

This would lead to a binding final referendum on PR's status if both Houses approve it.

The house will most likely pass it, however I doubt the Senate will since Manchin and Sinema exists. From what I heard, Manchin might be able to be reasoned with but I'm not sure about Sinema.

Not sure if it'll reach the Senate by the time of the next congress, not that it matters since I'm pretty sure all bills not passed by the time a new congress starts are going to have to restart the process again???

I bid good luck to the Puerto Ricans in their bid for more self determination, whether it'd be Statehood, Independence or Independence with added flavour

Manchin and Sinema will both vote for it. Neither are some anti-dem senators and actually voted with democrats 95% of the time.

Its the republicans you’d have to worry about. But it’s likely that it will pass given that several republicans (7 at the least) support it.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Thu Dec 15, 2022 7:31 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
New-Minneapolis wrote:U.S. Gas Prices Are Now Lower Than a Year Ago

Biden should be advertising this

He can't take credit anymore than he could take blame.


Well considering Republicans are trying to put the blame on him, he might as well play along with this change of fortune.

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Postby Luna Amore » Thu Dec 15, 2022 7:59 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:He can't take credit anymore than he could take blame.


Well considering Republicans are trying to put the blame on him, he might as well play along with this change of fortune.

The national average price for regular gasoline stood at $3.33 a gallon on Thursday, according to AAA. A year ago, the average price at the pump was $3.34.


I'm glad prices are heading down, but maybe hold off on the celebration until it is a more appreciable drop?
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:19 am

Luna Amore wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Well considering Republicans are trying to put the blame on him, he might as well play along with this change of fortune.

The national average price for regular gasoline stood at $3.33 a gallon on Thursday, according to AAA. A year ago, the average price at the pump was $3.34.


I'm glad prices are heading down, but maybe hold off on the celebration until it is a more appreciable drop?


That’s true. We still have a long way to go.

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Postby Loeje » Thu Dec 15, 2022 8:28 am

San Lumen wrote:https://knoxradio.com/2022/12/14/north-dakota-governor-bans-tiktok/

North Dakota governor bans TikTok

I'm glad to hear it.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:00 am

San Lumen wrote:https://knoxradio.com/2022/12/14/north-dakota-governor-bans-tiktok/

North Dakota governor bans TikTok

No he didn't.

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Postby Emotional Support Crocodile » Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:03 am

San Lumen wrote:https://knoxradio.com/2022/12/14/north-dakota-governor-bans-tiktok/

North Dakota governor bans TikTok


Do they have evidence to back up their "concerns", or is this just another reds under the beds panic? Teenagers dances are really a complex code giving away the location of US submarines, or they know that there is malware hidden in the code that they cannot stop running?
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:18 am

https://theathletic.com/4004875/2022/12 ... rk-emmert/

NCAA taps Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker as next president, succeeding Mark Emmert

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Postby The Federal Republic of Paramore » Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:21 am

San Lumen wrote:https://theathletic.com/4004875/2022/12/15/charlie-baker-ncaa-president-mark-emmert/

NCAA taps Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker as next president, succeeding Mark Emmert


Good luck with that...
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Postby Emotional Support Crocodile » Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:24 am

San Lumen wrote:https://theathletic.com/4004875/2022/12/15/charlie-baker-ncaa-president-mark-emmert/

NCAA taps Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker as next president, succeeding Mark Emmert


Is he a Trump backed athlete?
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Postby Imperial State » Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:32 am

New-Minneapolis wrote:
Platoon of Peace wrote:Why stop at people from "hostile regimes"? Why should we let google do it as well?


Regarding American companies, we should adopt similar privacy laws as Germany does. But Google does not have malicious intent, the CCP does

Google has the intent of profit, which at least typically ends up doing more harm than good, especially with gigantic companies like Google
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Postby Rusozak » Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:34 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:He can't take credit anymore than he could take blame.


Well considering Republicans are trying to put the blame on him, he might as well play along with this change of fortune.


And they were kind enough to get it started with those stickers of Biden saying "I did this" pointing at the gas price I've been seeing on pumps.
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Postby Narland » Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:34 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Narland wrote:Trump took the minimal salary allowed by law. It is my understanding that used to be $1. That does not include the stipend it takes to perform one's duties as President.

Repeating the same is not evidence of the same. Do you have verifiable proof that took a minimum salary which could possibly be $1?

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Narland wrote:Trump took the minimal salary allowed by law. It is my understanding that used to be $1. That does not include the stipend and miscellaneous monies it takes to perform one's duties as President.

Ah, so the error here is the value of Trump's salary. Fair enough. Please evidence this updated claim that Trump took the minimal salary allowed by law.


Apparently the President must receive the salary by law, but it can be immediately signed over to others without cashing it himself. That is what Trump did.
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