American Politics XV: Trump and '24 Already....

[San Lumen]

Because Zeldin is an election denier and has outright lied in his campaign ads such as saying he will end cashless bail. The governor doesn’t have the authority to repeal a law.,

It should be illegal to make false claims and take things out of context in campaign ads. There should be a board that reviews them before they go to air.

Lee Zeldin like you is an American Citizen of the USA, he has a democratic right to think the election was stolen from Trump by the Democrats, he has a democratic right to think anything he thinks. It is called Freedom of Speech and Democracy.

No he does not. There is zero evidence of any fraud and unless you have proof that was never presented in court stop bringing this up. If he wins his victory should not be certified.

[San Lumen]

Humans are killing this planet because we are a selfish species who only think of ourselves and trees and wildlife are an annoyance. Dinosaurs would have treated the planet better and have a super advanced galactic civilization by now and take good care of the planet and other wildlife.

Tyrannosaurus Rex were surely known to be selfless environmental advocates...

They didn't senselessly kill wildlife for fun. I condemn anyone who hunts for sport and anyone who does it should be ashamed of themselves.

[Sutalia]

He is certainly going to make an attempt at ending cashless bail, especially if Republicans do well in state legislature elections. Hochul was complacent with all of the corruption from the Cuomo administration, and that makes me wonder... who did you vote for in the Democratic primary? If you voted for Hochul, why? What makes her a good candidate?

If the State legislature doesn't agree he can do nothing. Its doubtful they win the Senate. The Assembly isn't happening.

I voted Hochul because Williams was a far left woke defund the police and Souzzi had no real plan.

So you ignored her complacency with Andrew Cuomo because she was a more moderate liberal, it seems. That does not persuade me that her record or agenda is good for my community.

[American Legionaries]

Tyrannosaurus Rex were surely known to be selfless environmental advocates...

They didn't senselessly kill wildlife for fun. I condemn anyone who hunts for sport and anyone who does it should be ashamed of themselves.

Nobody should ever be ashamed of your condemnation.

[San Lumen]

If the State legislature doesn't agree he can do nothing. Its doubtful they win the Senate. The Assembly isn't happening.

I voted Hochul because Williams was a far left woke defund the police and Souzzi had no real plan.

So you ignored her complacency with Andrew Cuomo because she was a more moderate liberal, it seems. That does not persuade me that her record or agenda is good for my community.

the Lieutenant Governor has no real power other than break a tie in the state senate. What do you want a Lieutenant Governor who constantly criticizes the executive and is a general pain in the neck?

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

Lee Zeldin like you is an American Citizen of the USA, he has a democratic right to think the election was stolen from Trump by the Democrats, he has a democratic right to think anything he thinks. It is called Freedom of Speech and Democracy.

No he does not. There is zero evidence of any fraud and unless you have proof that was never presented in court stop bringing this up. If he wins his victory should not be certified.

Yes he does, all our links proving our case you guys dismiss anyway.

[San Lumen]

No he does not. There is zero evidence of any fraud and unless you have proof that was never presented in court stop bringing this up. If he wins his victory should not be certified.

Yes he does, all our links proving our case you guys dismiss anyway.

Then present the evidence that was not presented in court. All you have ever shown is lies and falsified videos.

[Sutalia]

So you ignored her complacency with Andrew Cuomo because she was a more moderate liberal, it seems. That does not persuade me that her record or agenda is good for my community.

the Lieutenant Governor has no real power other than break a tie in the state senate. What do you want a Lieutenant Governor who constantly criticizes the executive and is a general pain in the neck?

It is her moral obligation to stand up if she notices something illegal or unethical taking place. Mike Pence has more of a spine than Kathy Hochul.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

Yes he does, all our links proving our case you guys dismiss anyway.

Then present the evidence that was not presented in court. All you have ever shown is lies and falsified videos.

As I said all our links proving our case you guys dismiss anyway, you just did it again with your statement.

[Alcala-Cordel]

Then present the evidence that was not presented in court. All you have ever shown is lies and falsified videos.

As I said all our links proving our case you guys dismiss anyway, you just did it again with your statement.

That would be because there is no real evidence and you can't provide anything credible.

[San Lumen]

the Lieutenant Governor has no real power other than break a tie in the state senate. What do you want a Lieutenant Governor who constantly criticizes the executive and is a general pain in the neck?

It is her moral obligation to stand up if she notices something illegal or unethical taking place. Mike Pence has more of a spine than Kathy Hochul.

By doing what? They have zero power.

[Sutalia]

It is her moral obligation to stand up if she notices something illegal or unethical taking place. Mike Pence has more of a spine than Kathy Hochul.

By doing what? They have zero power.

Informing the public. Think of how much pain and suffering could have been avoided in New York if she spoke up before it was too late. In all likelihood, it would make her more popular.

[San Lumen]

By doing what? They have zero power.

Informing the public. Think of how much pain and suffering could have been avoided in New York if she spoke up before it was too late. In all likelihood, it would make her more popular.

That's not what the Lt. Governor does. They have no authority.

[Sutalia]

Informing the public. Think of how much pain and suffering could have been avoided in New York if she spoke up before it was too late. In all likelihood, it would make her more popular.

That's not what the Lt. Governor does. They have no authority.

You do realize that Lt. Governors can speak freely with the press, right?

[Forsher]

It's very annoying that you will take your stupid little beef with some posters here

The balls for you to say this to SL.

Especially given you're one of like half a dozen people in this thread who seem to do nothing but shit on SL.

Humans are killing this planet because we are a selfish species who only think of ourselves and trees and wildlife are an annoyance. Dinosaurs would have treated the planet better and have a super advanced galactic civilization by now and take good care of the planet and other wildlife.

tbf to Iffy, this actually is insane. Rick and Morty is not a documentary, SL!

I mean, aside from anything else, if they didn't evolve like this in 164 million years, why would they have done so in another 65?

[Ifreann]

You should probably stop saying that, it's very silly.

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It's very annoying that you will take your stupid little beef with some posters here and use it to justify hatred of the whole species. Speaking as a human, I really don't appreciate you constantly talking shit about how inferior we are to your fantasies about dinosaurs.

Humans are killing this planet because we are a selfish species who only think of ourselves and trees and wildlife are an annoyance.

Humans are fighting to protect this planet because we are an intelligent and social species that values our fellows and values the natural world.

Dinosaurs would have treated the planet better and have a super advanced galactic civilization by now and take good care of the planet and other wildlife.

This is pure fantasy, and I would suggest that you restrict such posting to the RP forums, but I doubt that the RP forums would be interested in your hate-motivated nonsense.

[San Lumen]

That's not what the Lt. Governor does. They have no authority.

You do realize that Lt. Governors can speak freely with the press, right?

But they don't because their job is not be a watchdog.

[San Lumen]

Humans are killing this planet because we are a selfish species who only think of ourselves and trees and wildlife are an annoyance.

Humans are fighting to protect this planet because we are an intelligent and social species that values our fellows and values the natural world.

Dinosaurs would have treated the planet better and have a super advanced galactic civilization by now and take good care of the planet and other wildlife.

This is pure fantasy, and I would suggest that you restrict such posting to the RP forums, but I doubt that the RP forums would be interested in your hate-motivated nonsense.

Then why is global warming a thing? Why is the amount of wildlife decreasing rapidly? Why are we still dumping toxic waste and polluting the air? It should have stopped already. it hasn't because humans are selfish.

[Nora Xent]

San lumen is a partisan, not a funny one or a resist lib #trusttheplan one. But one that just makes unbelievably god-awful takes that makes people angry.

[Rakhalia]

Humans are fighting to protect this planet because we are an intelligent and social species that values our fellows and values the natural world.

This is pure fantasy, and I would suggest that you restrict such posting to the RP forums, but I doubt that the RP forums would be interested in your hate-motivated nonsense.

Then why is global warming a thing? Why is the amount of wildlife decreasing rapidly? Why are we still dumping toxic waste and polluting the air? It should have stopped already. it hasn't because humans are selfish.

It's not happening due to any deterministic human nature that's baked into us, it's just a logical consequence of scientific reality and the way we've organised production. Most certainly it is not selfless to want to save the planet, because fundamentally it's all in our best interests, i.e. staying the fuck alive. But we currently exist in an epoch where the entire weal and woe of our entire society hinges on short-term vested interests in destructive productivism at the planet's expense. There's no moralising to be done about it, that's just how it is. It doesn't make the human race any better or worse.

[San Lumen]

Then why is global warming a thing? Why is the amount of wildlife decreasing rapidly? Why are we still dumping toxic waste and polluting the air? It should have stopped already. it hasn't because humans are selfish.

It's not happening due to any deterministic human nature that's baked into us, it's just a logical consequence of scientific reality and the way we've organised production. Most certainly it is not selfless to want to save the planet, because fundamentally it's all in our best interests, i.e. staying the fuck alive. But we currently exist in an epoch where the entire weal and woe of our entire society hinges on short-term vested interests in destructive productivism at the planet's expense. There's no moralising to be done about it, that's just how it is.

And that should stop but we are too selfish as a species to care and soon our world will end up like how it is in Avatar. No wildlife and no green and all we have to eat is algae.

[Sutalia]

You do realize that Lt. Governors can speak freely with the press, right?

But they don't because their job is not be a watchdog.

According to whom?

[Grinning Dragon]

It's not happening due to any deterministic human nature that's baked into us, it's just a logical consequence of scientific reality and the way we've organised production. Most certainly it is not selfless to want to save the planet, because fundamentally it's all in our best interests, i.e. staying the fuck alive. But we currently exist in an epoch where the entire weal and woe of our entire society hinges on short-term vested interests in destructive productivism at the planet's expense. There's no moralising to be done about it, that's just how it is.

And that should stop but we are too selfish as a species to care and soon our world will end up like how it is in Avatar. No wildlife and no green and all we have to eat is algae.

Eh, I heard it tastes like chicken and with a bit of ketchup and thrown on the bb-q it ain't bad.

[Rakhalia]

It's not happening due to any deterministic human nature that's baked into us, it's just a logical consequence of scientific reality and the way we've organised production. Most certainly it is not selfless to want to save the planet, because fundamentally it's all in our best interests, i.e. staying the fuck alive. But we currently exist in an epoch where the entire weal and woe of our entire society hinges on short-term vested interests in destructive productivism at the planet's expense. There's no moralising to be done about it, that's just how it is.

And that should stop but we are too selfish as a species to care and soon our world will end up like how it is in Avatar. No wildlife and no green and all we have to eat is algae.

The inexplicable liberal urge to draw pop culture conclusions from real-life tragedies aside, it's not about selfishness or selflessness. It's about the mobilisation of different interest groups in order to dismantle said system. Make any conclusions you want, but don't come all out hating the human race with pseudoscientific biological determinism.

[Ifreann]

Humans are fighting to protect this planet because we are an intelligent and social species that values our fellows and values the natural world.

This is pure fantasy, and I would suggest that you restrict such posting to the RP forums, but I doubt that the RP forums would be interested in your hate-motivated nonsense.

Then why is global warming a thing? Why is the amount of wildlife decreasing rapidly? Why are we still dumping toxic waste and polluting the air? It should have stopped already. it hasn't because humans are selfish.

I've told you before, and you obviously didn't listen. So I'm not going to waste everyone's time telling you again. Just stop insulting my species every time Telconi successfully trolls you.