American Politics XV: Trump and '24 Already....

[Southern Republic of Dixie]

I'm not picky. Just not McCarthy.

Got to say. He doesn't live up to that last name...
Resurrect Douglas MacArthur anyone?

Why not Edward Brooke?

For once I wouldn't be opposed to it. Seems like a good man with a great record.
Sad he died at the age of 95.

[American Legionaries]

This would actually be pretty hilarious.

You find the destruction of our institutions humorous?

Quite specifically, yes.

[Bombadil]

When Republicans failed to gain significant advantage in the House, the margin is so small that these people hold all the power.

No...They are not the most likely to flip thereby allowing Biden's bills that they oppose to come into action, it's the more moderate republicans who control the house.

By becoming Democrats?

McCarthy has already had to promise ridiculous things and he still probably won't make 218, it's going to be a shambles.

[San Lumen]

No...They are not the most likely to flip thereby allowing Biden's bills that they oppose to come into action, it's the more moderate republicans who control the house.

By becoming Democrats?

McCarthy has already had to promise ridiculous things and he still probably won't make 218, it's going to be a shambles.

It seems a near certainty we have the first multiple ballot election for speaker since 1923.

[San Lumen]

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3 ... eing-sued/

Pennsylvania’s Luzerne County certifies election after being sued

[Thermodolia]

Cochise County Supervisors could face criminal charges for failure to certify the election

[New-Minneapolis]

What Native American tribes populated South Eastern Texas/North eastern Mexico?

[New-Minneapolis]

Cochise County Supervisors could face criminal charges for failure to certify the election

Good, lock them up.

[Cannot think of a name]

What Native American tribes populated South Eastern Texas/North eastern Mexico?

What do you think the chances someone will know that off the top of their head instead of just googling it...cause this really feels like something you should have asked google. I think the Pueblo people were around there but I haven't googled it. I'm gonna because you're in my head. But I'm not going to tell you.

[San Lumen]

Cochise County Supervisors could face criminal charges for failure to certify the election

Good. Send a message this insanity will not be tolerated.

[New-Minneapolis]

What Native American tribes populated South Eastern Texas/North eastern Mexico?

What do you think the chances someone will know that off the top of their head instead of just googling it...cause this really feels like something you should have asked google. I think the Pueblo people were around there but I haven't googled it. I'm gonna because you're in my head. But I'm not going to tell you.

According to ancestry, I am 40% Native American, specifically indigenous Mexico north east Mexico. This is the largest cut of my DNA profile. The next is Irish at 24%

[Thermodolia]

So I found something interesting out. The speaker is elected by the majority of the votes cast, not the majority of the representatives.

What this means is that the actual number for majority can be far lower. As of right now the majority number is 217. However if day for example the 31 republicans who all voted to nominate Biggs decided to just not vote or voted present then the majority needed would be 202. Which means the democrats would control the speakership.

Granted this is unlikely to happen but it would be funny to see. More likely is democrats working to support a centrist candidate on the second round like David Valadao or Jerrod Golden for speaker

[The Black Forrest]

So I found something interesting out. The speaker is elected by the majority of the votes cast, not the majority of the representatives.

What this means is that the actual number for majority can be far lower. As of right now the majority number is 217. However if day for example the 31 republicans who all voted to nominate Biggs decided to just not vote or voted present then the majority needed would be 202. Which means the democrats would control the speakership.

Granted this is unlikely to happen but it would be funny to see. More likely is democrats working to support a centrist candidate on the second round like David Valadao or Jerrod Golden for speaker

Valadao? Looking at on the issues; he seems more like the typical rightish republican.
Golden? Might be more centrist; supports mainly liberal things and yet supports gun stuff.

[The Black Forrest]

Cochise County Supervisors could face criminal charges for failure to certify the election

Good. Send a message this insanity will not be tolerated.

Why do you want the courts to send a message? Thats a bad thing……

[San Lumen]

Good. Send a message this insanity will not be tolerated.

Why do you want the courts to send a message? Thats a bad thing……

Why is a bad thing to hold these imbeciles accountable?

[Thermodolia]

So I found something interesting out. The speaker is elected by the majority of the votes cast, not the majority of the representatives.

What this means is that the actual number for majority can be far lower. As of right now the majority number is 217. However if day for example the 31 republicans who all voted to nominate Biggs decided to just not vote or voted present then the majority needed would be 202. Which means the democrats would control the speakership.

Granted this is unlikely to happen but it would be funny to see. More likely is democrats working to support a centrist candidate on the second round like David Valadao or Jerrod Golden for speaker

Valadao? Looking at on the issues; he seems more like the typical rightish republican.
Golden? Might be more centrist; supports mainly liberal things and yet supports gun stuff.

Valadao voted for Trumps impeachment and has supported climate change and gay rights legislation.

That’s about as centrist a republican you’re going to get

[American Legionaries]

Valadao? Looking at on the issues; he seems more like the typical rightish republican.
Golden? Might be more centrist; supports mainly liberal things and yet supports gun stuff.

Valadao voted for Trumps impeachment and has supported climate change and gay rights legislation.

That’s about as centrist a republican you’re going to get

As much as I'd love to have Valadao as speaker, it's probably not going to happen.

[New-Minneapolis]

Valadao voted for Trumps impeachment and has supported climate change and gay rights legislation.

That’s about as centrist a republican you’re going to get

As much as I'd love to have Valadao as speaker, it's probably not going to happen.

I thought you would want a MAGA as speaker.

[Thermodolia]

Valadao voted for Trumps impeachment and has supported climate change and gay rights legislation.

That’s about as centrist a republican you’re going to get

As much as I'd love to have Valadao as speaker, it's probably not going to happen.

There’s a possibility. Especially as around 20-31 republicans will be supporting Biggs as speaker. Dems or a bipartisan group could come up with a centrist speaker

[Big Bad Blue]

NYT: Right-wing armed protests growing

In June, armed demonstrations around the United States amounted to nearly one a day. A group led by a former Republican state legislator protested a gay pride event in a public park in Coeur d’Alene, Idaho. Men with guns interrupted a Juneteenth festival in Franklin, Tenn., handing out fliers claiming that white people were being replaced. Among the others were rallies in support of gun rights in Delaware and abortion rights in Georgia.

Whether at the local library, in a park or on Main Street, most of these incidents happen where Republicans have fought to expand the ability to bear arms in public, a movement bolstered by a recent Supreme Court ruling on the right to carry firearms outside the home. The loosening of limits has occurred as violent political rhetoric rises and the police in some places fear bloodshed among an armed populace on a hair trigger.

Bringing firearms to a protest is pretty much an admission that your argument is terminally weak. In a democracy the way to change policy is with ballots, not bullets. We will defeat the fascists with the weapons of democracy that we cherish and they despise.

armed protests are a fantastic idea and we need to do more armed protests to stop the neoliberal state from destroying all bastions of conservatism in this country... if the neoliberals win, there will be no more farms, there will be no more small businesses, there will be no more guns, everybody will be forced to cover their entire face up and be stabbed with a needle carrying dna-altering serums, there will be no more constitutional rights, the nation will be overran with furries, all christian values and the rule of law will be eliminated. every single patriot must stop becoming a slave and join the ranks of citizenship by buying a gun and storming the streets and beginning an uprising against the deep state

All that sounds so much better in German doesn't it.

[Big Bad Blue]

SCOTUS is like the Cash-for-a-HoL-Seat shit mixed in with turbo-polarisation and the previously supreme powers of the HoL all in one unholy mix... like... people should be aghast...

If you were a Supreme Court justice and you found out that a couple of your "friends" were actually part of a well-financed campaign to influence you, wouldn't you be just a little upset and want to do something to put an end to such things? Or would you say to yourself, "well, I was gonna decide that way anyway so why shouldn't there be something in it for me?"

[American Legionaries]

As much as I'd love to have Valadao as speaker, it's probably not going to happen.

I thought you would want a MAGA as speaker.

Why?

[Shrillland]

So I found something interesting out. The speaker is elected by the majority of the votes cast, not the majority of the representatives.

What this means is that the actual number for majority can be far lower. As of right now the majority number is 217. However if day for example the 31 republicans who all voted to nominate Biggs decided to just not vote or voted present then the majority needed would be 202. Which means the democrats would control the speakership.

Granted this is unlikely to happen but it would be funny to see. More likely is democrats working to support a centrist candidate on the second round like David Valadao or Jerrod Golden for speaker

I think Valadao would be the better option, to name any Democrat would be exceedingly bad optics given that the Republicans did get an albeit slim majority of seats.

[Shrillland]

What do you think the chances someone will know that off the top of their head instead of just googling it...cause this really feels like something you should have asked google. I think the Pueblo people were around there but I haven't googled it. I'm gonna because you're in my head. But I'm not going to tell you.

According to ancestry, I am 40% Native American, specifically indigenous Mexico north east Mexico. This is the largest cut of my DNA profile. The next is Irish at 24%

Ah, a DNA profile. First Nations tend not to take those too seriously I'm afraid, not unless you can somehow trace your ancestry. Some are more forgiving given the history of Residential Schools in the US, others will just dismiss you as a "Pretendian". I'm not saying you don't have it in you, I'm sure you do. I'm just saying how a lot of Natives see these things.

[American Legionaries]

So I found something interesting out. The speaker is elected by the majority of the votes cast, not the majority of the representatives.

What this means is that the actual number for majority can be far lower. As of right now the majority number is 217. However if day for example the 31 republicans who all voted to nominate Biggs decided to just not vote or voted present then the majority needed would be 202. Which means the democrats would control the speakership.

Granted this is unlikely to happen but it would be funny to see. More likely is democrats working to support a centrist candidate on the second round like David Valadao or Jerrod Golden for speaker

I think Valadao would be the better option, to name any Democrat would be exceedingly bad optics given that the Republicans did get an albeit slim majority of seats.

Another issue is David Valadao's staying power. He won reelection, and by a decent margin. But that race was a nail biter. Not to mention this is only his second consecutive term this go-round, he lost his seat in '18, and won it back in a rematch in '20.