Left-wing Extremism: A "Diversity" of Tactics

[Alle Deutschland]

"It's like trying to make a Liberal work with a Fascist (Which, unlike what Sordhau seems to think, no, Liberals in real life would not work with fascists)" The infighting begins...

[Kubra]

Ok let's talk about those left wing extremists and their nefarious nefariousness
Remember that radical left mass shooting
Surely we had one, right?

The largest terrorist organization in the world is a communist one, operating in India.

which only reinforces how little one actually has to worry about left wing extremism these days, if the Naxalites are the best we can muster

[The United Front Empire]

I think it's hilarious to see the difference between the two forum posts and still see leftists somehow denying there is leftwing extremism, and an echochamber.

The "How did you escape rightwing extremism" thread is just lefties misrepresenting conservative ideas and calling them nazis. And this thread is just lefties either pretending leftwing extremism doesn't exist and making fun of OP, and also...saying leftists aren't leftwing enough.

These people are so high on their own supply.

90% of the ideas expressed on this forum are far left, you would never see any of these people dare say it in real life because they know they're extreme. Most of this shit would get openly mocked even just on less niche internet forums, but somehow most people here are convinced these views are entirely normal and also well put together.

[Cuba 2022 RP]

I think it's hilarious to see the difference between the two forum posts and still see leftists somehow denying there is leftwing extremism, and an echochamber.

The "How did you escape rightwing extremism" thread is just lefties misrepresenting conservative ideas and calling them nazis. And this thread is just lefties either pretending leftwing extremism doesn't exist and making fun of OP, and also...saying leftists aren't leftwing enough.

These people are so high on their own supply.

90% of the ideas expressed on this forum are far left, you would never see any of these people dare say it in real life because they know they're extreme. Most of this shit would get openly mocked even just on less niche internet forums, but somehow most people here are convinced these views are entirely normal and also well put together.

New World record for revealing your political bias speedrun, great job

[Kubra]

I think it's hilarious to see the difference between the two forum posts and still see leftists somehow denying there is leftwing extremism, and an echochamber.

The "How did you escape rightwing extremism" thread is just lefties misrepresenting conservative ideas and calling them nazis. And this thread is just lefties either pretending leftwing extremism doesn't exist and making fun of OP, and also...saying leftists aren't leftwing enough.

These people are so high on their own supply.

90% of the ideas expressed on this forum are far left, you would never see any of these people dare say it in real life because they know they're extreme. Most of this shit would get openly mocked even just on less niche internet forums, but somehow most people here are convinced these views are entirely normal and also well put together.

>90% of ideas expressed on this forum are far left
Hot damn I wish

[Bewaffnete Krafte]

Marxist-Leninists call Social Democrats Bourgeoisie, Social Democrats call Marxist-Leninists Fascists, Marxist-Leninists call Trotskyists counterrevolutionary, etc.
Leftism is inherently pro-change, which automatically means it can agree on less than those who think "we should keep it pretty much the same".
Leftists will never agree with eachother because Leftism isn't a thing, like Rightism. It's like trying to make a Liberal work with a Fascist (Which, unlike what Sordhau seems to think, no, Liberals in real life would not work with fascists) they are very different ideologies. This means no such rabbit hole can exist, like in rightist ideologies.
And, We shouldn't work with eachother because you can't compromise between revolution and reform, or between authoritarianism and... not. The only reason we even try at all (which we hardly do) is because we all roughly stemmed from the same guy, and we're all too new to be entrenched as our own real ideology groups.
I would say leftism is split into three groups, those being Status Quo (Social Liberalism), Reform (Social Democracy), and Revolution (Marxism-Leninism) and none of those 3 (besides maybe Social Liberalism and Social Democracy) should (or do) work with the other two.

Well it doesn't much matter what they call each other, right? Just what they are. Leftists. "because Leftism isn't a thing, like Rightism."... "I would say leftism is split into three groups". Is this an attempt to split up an umbrella group, that according to you doesn't exist, or at least can't work cohesively (which is often true with extremist ideologies), or is it simply an attempt to break up what is "perceived as leftism" into "actual categories"? Just wondering.

Mix, but majority the first one. Leftism simply isn't a thing, it's roughly half of all ideologies.

[Bewaffnete Krafte]

I think it's hilarious to see the difference between the two forum posts and still see leftists somehow denying there is leftwing extremism, and an echochamber.

The "How did you escape rightwing extremism" thread is just lefties misrepresenting conservative ideas and calling them nazis. And this thread is just lefties either pretending leftwing extremism doesn't exist and making fun of OP, and also...saying leftists aren't leftwing enough.

These people are so high on their own supply.

90% of the ideas expressed on this forum are far left, you would never see any of these people dare say it in real life because they know they're extreme. Most of this shit would get openly mocked even just on less niche internet forums, but somehow most people here are convinced these views are entirely normal and also well put together.

>90% of ideas expressed on this forum are far left
Hot damn I wish

Not 90%, but he's very much correct that the left (especially the far-left) has a disproportionate sway on this website.

[The United Front Empire]

>90% of ideas expressed on this forum are far left
Hot damn I wish

Not 90%, but he's very much correct that the left (especially the far-left) has a disproportionate sway on this website.

90% was a bit hyperbolic lol. Just to get the point across.

[Kubra]

>90% of ideas expressed on this forum are far left
Hot damn I wish

Not 90%, but he's very much correct that the left (especially the far-left) has a disproportionate sway on this website.

Once upon a time there was threads for all your left wing and right wing needs, a left wing discussion thread and a right wing discussion thread. Guess which one was over twice as long as the other.
For the most part, if it seems like "the left" is more active it's only because these days there's an active core of left wing users who make a lot of posts, not necessarily that there is numerically more left-wing users, and of course we're drawn like fireflies to any topic that has the words "left" or "communism" in it, so we're generally gonna be overrepresented in those specific threads.

[Nilokeras]

Not 90%, but he's very much correct that the left (especially the far-left) has a disproportionate sway on this website.

Once upon a time there was threads for all your left wing and right wing needs, a left wing discussion thread and a right wing discussion thread. Guess which one was over twice as long as the other.
For the most part, if it seems like "the left" is more active it's only because these days there's an active core of left wing users who make a lot of posts, not necessarily that there is numerically more left-wing users, and of course we're drawn like fireflies to any topic that has the words "left" or "communism" in it, so we're generally gonna be overrepresented in those specific threads.

'This website is dominated by Christians! Just look at how many posters there are in the Christian discussion thread, they totally outnumber the atheists.'

[Kubra]

Once upon a time there was threads for all your left wing and right wing needs, a left wing discussion thread and a right wing discussion thread. Guess which one was over twice as long as the other.
For the most part, if it seems like "the left" is more active it's only because these days there's an active core of left wing users who make a lot of posts, not necessarily that there is numerically more left-wing users, and of course we're drawn like fireflies to any topic that has the words "left" or "communism" in it, so we're generally gonna be overrepresented in those specific threads.

'This website is dominated by Christians! Just look at how many posters there are in the Christian discussion thread, they totally outnumber the atheists.'

ehh, ooooh, and I see a christian discussion thread but no atheism discussion thread. Coincidence or conspiracy?

[The New Rio Grande]

The right wing radicalization thread:
Left wing extremists acting as if Left wing radicalization doesn’t exist.
The left wing radicalization thread:
Left wing extremists acting as if Left wing radicalization doesn’t exist.

[Sordhau]

:lol2: "It's like trying to make a Liberal work with a Fascist (Which, unlike what Sordhau seems to think, no, Liberals in real life would not work with fascists)" The infighting begins...

Germany, Italy, Japan, Azerbaijan, Brazil, Argentina, Romania, Hungary, China, South Korea, South Vietnam, Taiwan, Iraq, and Syria either currently have or previously had Fascist regimes in the past which were supported by Liberals, installed by Liberals, or appeased by Liberals - sometimes two at the same time, sometimes all three. That's not even counting the Fascist organizations that have been supported by Liberals in the past. The only Fascist regime to never garner Liberal support is North Korea.

[Kubra]

The right wing radicalization thread:
Left wing extremists acting as if Left wing radicalization doesn’t exist.
The left wing radicalization thread:
Left wing extremists acting as if Left wing radicalization doesn’t exist.

Oh no left-wing radicalism exists, but much to our dismay there isn't much one can say about it. Anyone who remembers the invisible committee knows a good example of its present impotence.
Or we can say extremely bad things about the decrepit insurgent movements still in existence, but those are also, you know, things no one really loses sleep over.

[Sonakion]

Extremism exists everywhere but comparing two kinds of Extremism doesn't necessarily work and doesn't work in this case.

[The New Rio Grande]

The right wing radicalization thread:
Left wing extremists acting as if Left wing radicalization doesn’t exist.
The left wing radicalization thread:
Left wing extremists acting as if Left wing radicalization doesn’t exist.

Oh no left-wing radicalism exists, but much to our dismay there isn't much one can say about it. Anyone who remembers the invisible committee knows a good example of its present impotence.
Or we can say extremely bad things about the decrepit insurgent movements still in existence, but those are also, you know, things no one really loses sleep over.

If I recall correctly, I’d think no one loses sleep over the “Evil alt right fascists grrr” either. I’ve been told that the GOP hasn’t gotten anything done recently.

[Jello Biafra]

Leftists will never agree with eachother because Leftism isn't a thing, like Rightism. It's like trying to make a Liberal work with a Fascist (Which, unlike what Sordhau seems to think, no, Liberals in real life would not work with fascists) they are very different ideologies. This means no such rabbit hole can exist, like in rightist ideologies.

In many parts of the world, liberalism describes a right-wing ideology, because liberals in those parts of the world emphasize different aspects of On Liberty than liberals in the U.S. do.

[Sordhau]

The right wing radicalization thread:
Left wing extremists acting as if Left wing radicalization doesn’t exist.
The left wing radicalization thread:
Left wing extremists acting as if Left wing radicalization doesn’t exist.

Oh no left-wing radicalism exists, but much to our dismay there isn't much one can say about it. Anyone who remembers the invisible committee knows a good example of its present impotence.
Or we can say extremely bad things about the decrepit insurgent movements still in existence, but those are also, you know, things no one really loses sleep over.

Friendly reminder that the deadliest Right-wing terrorist attack of the 21st century killed 2,996 civilians while the deadliest Left-wing terrorist attack of the 21st century barely killed 20.

But of course the Right will try to find some way to insist that this particular act of terrorism doesn't count.

[Sordhau]

Oh no left-wing radicalism exists, but much to our dismay there isn't much one can say about it. Anyone who remembers the invisible committee knows a good example of its present impotence.
Or we can say extremely bad things about the decrepit insurgent movements still in existence, but those are also, you know, things no one really loses sleep over.

If I recall correctly, I’d think no one loses sleep over the “Evil alt right fascists grrr” either. I’ve been told that the GOP hasn’t gotten anything done recently.

The Alt-Right is an existential threat to every transgender person on the planet, so yes I do happen to lose sleep over their increasing popularity and support by mainstream politicians.

[The New Rio Grande]

If I recall correctly, I’d think no one loses sleep over the “Evil alt right fascists grrr” either. I’ve been told that the GOP hasn’t gotten anything done recently.

The Alt-Right is an existential threat to every transgender person on the planet, so yes I do happen to lose sleep over their increasing popularity and support by mainstream politicians.

Ah yes. An American political party, that is only in the United States, is a worldwide threat. Yep that makes perfect sense.
Most sane American leftist right here.

[Bovad]

The Alt-Right is an existential threat to every transgender person on the planet, so yes I do happen to lose sleep over their increasing popularity and support by mainstream politicians.

Ah yes. An American political party, that is only in the United States, is a worldwide threat. Yep that makes perfect sense.
Most sane American leftist right here.

The gop and similar international parties.

[Sordhau]

The Alt-Right is an existential threat to every transgender person on the planet, so yes I do happen to lose sleep over their increasing popularity and support by mainstream politicians.

Ah yes. An American political party, that is only in the United States, is a worldwide threat. Yep that makes perfect sense.
Most sane American leftist right here.

The Alt-Right is not a political party.

[Bewaffnete Krafte]

Leftists will never agree with eachother because Leftism isn't a thing, like Rightism. It's like trying to make a Liberal work with a Fascist (Which, unlike what Sordhau seems to think, no, Liberals in real life would not work with fascists) they are very different ideologies. This means no such rabbit hole can exist, like in rightist ideologies.

In many parts of the world, liberalism describes a right-wing ideology, because liberals in those parts of the world emphasize different aspects of On Liberty than liberals in the U.S. do.

My apologies. I was referring to Social Liberalism.

[Nilokeras]

More seriously, of course there are a lot of leftists here. There are a lot of ancaps, fascists, absolute monarchists and Objectivists here too. We're on the discussion forum attached to a niche political simulation browser game. That is naturally going to attract a lot of different people who don't find engagement with their politics in meatspace.

Which is how you know there isn't some left wing cultural hegemony or cultish bubble out there: for a huge swathe of the Western world and America in particular, the left half of the political spectrum was chopped off at the elbow so long ago that people think Hillary Clinton is a communist. To run in to any information at all about left wing political ideas before university (if you even go to university) you generally have to be the kind of nerd who is inclined to go on nationstates dot net in the first place, since no public school is ever going to mention them to you and it's so far out of the political discourse as to be inaccessible.

[Bewaffnete Krafte]

On the topic of Extremism specifically, of course any extremism is bad. Left or Right. Both inherently endorse violence against those that disagree, which should be very clearly awful.
Left extremism obviously exists, and I find it funny that Left-Wing extremists on this website are saying that right wing extremism is dangerous. Both are dangerous. One is obviously more awful than the other, but both suck.
Though, I will agains state that you can't so much "fall down the left-wing rabbit hole" so much as it's a very slow process that leads someone to left wing extremism.