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Postby Hispida » Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:13 pm

Mountains and Volcanoes wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:Both the far-right and the far-left are destroying this country.
1. There’s hasn’t been an far left for a while since Reagan. (Never one with any substantial influence either)
2. Frankly, the far right is the norm of this country for a while; no thanks to neoliberalism. Strayed from that to authoritarian capitalism (advanced, late, or propertarian (related to ancaps) under Trumpism. Now, I couldn’t be surprised if went further...

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Postby Southern Republic of Dixie » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:28 am

Mountains and Volcanoes wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:Both the far-right and the far-left are destroying this country.
1. There’s hasn’t been an far left for a while since Reagan. (Never one with any substantial influence either)
2. Frankly, the far right is the norm of this country for a while; no thanks to neoliberalism. Strayed from that to authoritarian capitalism (advanced, late, or propertarian (related to ancaps) under Trumpism. Now, I couldn’t be surprised if went further...

1. Good.
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Postby Yuyuko Fumo » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:36 am

New haven america wrote:
Based Illinois wrote:
I mean, we did have those race riots back in 2020 that killed like 20 people and injured hundreds more...

And who were the one's killing people?

Oh wait, it was the police and right wingers, the very people the left were protesting against. What a coincidence.


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Postby North Korea Choson » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:41 am

Leftists trying not to dehumanize their opponents (100% impossible)

There is a difference between Racism and Dehumanization.
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Postby Southern Republic of Dixie » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:42 am

North Korea Choson wrote:
Leftists trying not to dehumanize their opponents (100% impossible)

There is a difference between Racism and Dehumanization.

Why can't it be both?
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Postby North Korea Choson » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:45 am

Southern Republic of Dixie wrote:
North Korea Choson wrote:There is a difference between Racism and Dehumanization.

Why can't it be both?

Yes it is both.
My point is essentially the fella who wrote that leftist dehumanize their opponents is confused.
I wanted to say that calling out racism is not 'dehumanization'.
{Yeah if you guys are wondering. I am gaffe-prone]

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Postby Yuyuko Fumo » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:48 am

North Korea Choson wrote:
Southern Republic of Dixie wrote:Why can't it be both?

Yes it is both.
My point is essentially the fella who wrote that leftist dehumanize their opponents is confused.
I wanted to say that calling out racism is not 'dehumanization'.
{Yeah if you guys are wondering. I am gaffe-prone]

I am not saying that them “Calling out racism” was dehumanization. Their post about the people being killed in the ‘Race riots’ makes it look like they’re saying that the lives of those people don’t matter. Dehumanization basically.
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Postby Based Illinois » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:48 am

New haven america wrote:
Oh wait, it was the police and right wingers, the very people the left were protesting against. What a coincidence.


No

A pretty solid majority of these people were killed by either other protestors, and were themselves trying to harm other people and found out. A few were, as you say, killed by the police - like Marquis M. Tousant, who we're pretty sure was a apart of an ambush were he and several other individuals shot up a police truck, or Jorge Gomez, who tried to pull a gun on some cops. There was one dude who for sure was wrongfully killed by authorities, David McAtee, and the Louisville police chief was fired for the negligance of his officers.

Everyone else though, murdered by other protestors. This not even counting the thousands of people that were injured, or the private homes and businesses that were looted and destroyed. But all of those were just right wing sabatours, right?

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Postby North Korea Choson » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:50 am

Yuyuko Fumo wrote:
North Korea Choson wrote:Yes it is both.
My point is essentially the fella who wrote that leftist dehumanize their opponents is confused.
I wanted to say that calling out racism is not 'dehumanization'.
{Yeah if you guys are wondering. I am gaffe-prone]

I am not saying that them “Calling out racism” was dehumanization. Their post about the people being killed in the ‘Race riots’ makes it look like they’re saying that the lives of those people don’t matter. Dehumanization basically.

The source of these riots are rascism.
If the source is not addressed then good luck dealing with the symptoms (Riots) forever.

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Postby Yuyuko Fumo » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:51 am

North Korea Choson wrote:
Yuyuko Fumo wrote:I am not saying that them “Calling out racism” was dehumanization. Their post about the people being killed in the ‘Race riots’ makes it look like they’re saying that the lives of those people don’t matter. Dehumanization basically.

The source of these riots are rascism.
If the source is not addressed then good luck dealing with the symptoms (Riots) forever.

Yeah! The source of the riots determines when you get to dehumanize someone! Yeah!
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Postby Wallowis » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:53 am

I’ve really never gotten close to being far right. I’ve always believed in equality etc,. And those beliefs eventually manifested into socialism. I’ve never had a different ideology, Andy I’ve never gone through that stereotypical phase of changing ideologies daily.
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Postby North Korea Choson » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:54 am

Yuyuko Fumo wrote:
North Korea Choson wrote:The source of these riots are rascism.
If the source is not addressed then good luck dealing with the symptoms (Riots) forever.

Yeah! The source of the riots determines when you get to dehumanize someone! Yeah!

Are you dog-whistling?
When you step on a man's neck for 300 years and then finally remove that boot do you legit think that the man will give you gifts.

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Postby Based Illinois » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:58 am

North Korea Choson wrote:
Yuyuko Fumo wrote:I am not saying that them “Calling out racism” was dehumanization. Their post about the people being killed in the ‘Race riots’ makes it look like they’re saying that the lives of those people don’t matter. Dehumanization basically.

The source of these riots are rascism.
If the source is not addressed then good luck dealing with the symptoms (Riots) forever.


But these riots aren't trying to deal with the source. They want police brutality to stop, but they don't question why black communities are policed harder than the rest of the country. Policing is a comprativly small problem compared to a lot bigger issues in the black community, which recieve shockingly less attention. We could do literally dozens of things which would be more helpful for the black community: legalizing weed at the federal level and releasing those inmates who had been charged on such crimes. abolishing private prisons and reforming their systems to prioritize occupational skills and mental health on the outside. Shifting highschool education away from college preparation, and more towards real life skils. Massivly reform ( or hell, just nuke ) wall street and other major property firms which often have life or death control over prices in many poorer areas of the country. These are just the things which we can do at the government level, but there a tons of things which only black americans can do at the community level.

Black lives do matter, but BLM just wants to deal with the symptoms. If you give people more means to survive at a better quality of living, and make crime less of an attractive option, shocker, you'll see the police patrol their neighborhoods less.

Edit: I know introspection can be difficult, but it is literally a matter of life or death in this situation.
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Postby Yuyuko Fumo » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:59 am

North Korea Choson wrote:
Yuyuko Fumo wrote:Yeah! The source of the riots determines when you get to dehumanize someone! Yeah!

Are you dog-whistling?
When you step on a man's neck for 300 years and then finally remove that boot do you legit think that the man will give you gifts.

Are you saying that the Right-wing has been stepping on someone’s neck?
I think you’re forgetting which party was in favor of slavery and racism for most of those ‘300’ years.
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Postby Floofybit » Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:02 am

Based Illinois wrote:
North Korea Choson wrote:The source of these riots are rascism.
If the source is not addressed then good luck dealing with the symptoms (Riots) forever.


But these riots aren't trying to deal with the source. They want police brutality to stop, but they don't question why black communities are policed harder than the rest of the country. Policing is a comprativly small problem compared to a lot bigger issues in the black community, which recieve shockingly less attention. We could do literally dozens of things which would be more helpful for the black community: legalizing weed at the federal level and releasing those inmates who had been charged on such crimes. abolishing private prisons and reforming their systems to prioritize occupational skills and mental health on the outside. Shifting highschool education away from college preparation, and more towards real life skils. Massivly reform ( or hell, just nuke ) wall street and other major property firms which often have life or death control over prices in many poorer areas of the country. These are just the things which we can do at the government level, but there a tons of things which only black americans can do at the community level.

Black lives do matter, but BLM just wants to deal with the symptoms. If you give people more means to survive at a better quality of living, and make crime less of an attractive option, shocker, you'll see the police patrol their neighborhoods less.

Edit: I know introspection can be difficult, but it is literally a matter of life or death in this situation.

So, to stop police brutality, they steal and destroy from police and businesses? Also, legalising weed won't help any communities
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Postby North Korea Choson » Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:04 am

Yuyuko Fumo wrote:
North Korea Choson wrote:Are you dog-whistling?
When you step on a man's neck for 300 years and then finally remove that boot do you legit think that the man will give you gifts.

Are you saying that the Right-wing has been stepping on someone’s neck?
I think you’re forgetting which party was in favor of slaves for most of those 300 years.

Rightly attributed to democrats but wrongly attributed to liberals (in the american sense).
Those were conservative democrats who were on modern day terms right wing.
Left winger liberal democrats like Hubert Humphrey and Mondale etc were liberal democrats who were against segregation.
Conservatives have always been on the wrong side of history.
Pro Monarchy, Anti Women Rights (Abortion, opposition to ERA), opposition to integration ( Southern democrats, barry goldwater etc.)
So yes right wingers were using the boot.

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Postby Southern Republic of Dixie » Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:05 am

Floofybit wrote:
So, to stop police brutality, they steal and destroy from police and businesses? Also, legalising weed won't help any communities


Well, if it was legalized. People wouldn't be going to jail as much, so that's a start.
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Postby Based Illinois » Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:06 am

Floofybit wrote:
Based Illinois wrote:
But these riots aren't trying to deal with the source. They want police brutality to stop, but they don't question why black communities are policed harder than the rest of the country. Policing is a comprativly small problem compared to a lot bigger issues in the black community, which recieve shockingly less attention. We could do literally dozens of things which would be more helpful for the black community: legalizing weed at the federal level and releasing those inmates who had been charged on such crimes. abolishing private prisons and reforming their systems to prioritize occupational skills and mental health on the outside. Shifting highschool education away from college preparation, and more towards real life skils. Massivly reform ( or hell, just nuke ) wall street and other major property firms which often have life or death control over prices in many poorer areas of the country. These are just the things which we can do at the government level, but there a tons of things which only black americans can do at the community level.

Black lives do matter, but BLM just wants to deal with the symptoms. If you give people more means to survive at a better quality of living, and make crime less of an attractive option, shocker, you'll see the police patrol their neighborhoods less.

Edit: I know introspection can be difficult, but it is literally a matter of life or death in this situation.

So, to stop police brutality, they steal and destroy from police and businesses? Also, legalising weed won't help any communities


Regardless your views on weed, making it illegal has definetly done more harm than good. More people have been killed or thrown in prison as a result of the law on weed, as opposed the negative effects of weed itself.

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Postby North Korea Choson » Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:06 am

Southern Republic of Dixie wrote:
Floofybit wrote:
So, to stop police brutality, they steal and destroy from police and businesses? Also, legalising weed won't help any communities


Well, if it was legalized. People wouldn't be going to jail as much, so that's a start.

Even though I am liberal I am opposed to weed legalization.( I support rehabilitation but legalization is too much).

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Postby Floofybit » Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:07 am

North Korea Choson wrote:
Yuyuko Fumo wrote:Are you saying that the Right-wing has been stepping on someone’s neck?
I think you’re forgetting which party was in favor of slaves for most of those 300 years.

Rightly attributed to democrats but wrongly attributed to liberals (in the american sense).
Those were conservative democrats who were on modern day terms right wing.
Left winger liberal democrats like Hubert Humphrey and Mondale etc were liberal democrats who were against segregation.
Conservatives have always been on the wrong side of history.
Pro Monarchy, Anti Women Rights (Abortion, opposition to ERA), opposition to integration ( Southern democrats, barry goldwater etc.)
So yes right wingers were using the boot.

Wrong side?! What's wrong with monarchy? Britain looks nice and fine. Pro-abortion? Ah yes, let's kill kids for fun. Anti-drug? Like it should be. This is the wrong side for you. But the right side is for me. And should be right for many others
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Postby Floofybit » Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:08 am

Southern Republic of Dixie wrote:
Floofybit wrote:
So, to stop police brutality, they steal and destroy from police and businesses? Also, legalising weed won't help any communities


Well, if it was legalized. People wouldn't be going to jail as much, so that's a start.

Well, if murder was legalized, people wouldn't be going to jail as much, so that's a start
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Postby Nationalist Northumbria » Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:08 am

Mountains and Volcanoes wrote:
Prima Scriptura wrote:Both the far-right and the far-left are destroying this country.
1. There’s hasn’t been an far left for a while since Reagan. (Never one with any substantial influence either)
2. Frankly, the far right is the norm of this country for a while; no thanks to neoliberalism. Strayed from that to authoritarian capitalism (advanced, late, or propertarian (related to ancaps) under Trumpism. Now, I couldn’t be surprised if went further...

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Postby North Korea Choson » Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:08 am

Floofybit wrote:
North Korea Choson wrote:Rightly attributed to democrats but wrongly attributed to liberals (in the american sense).
Those were conservative democrats who were on modern day terms right wing.
Left winger liberal democrats like Hubert Humphrey and Mondale etc were liberal democrats who were against segregation.
Conservatives have always been on the wrong side of history.
Pro Monarchy, Anti Women Rights (Abortion, opposition to ERA), opposition to integration ( Southern democrats, barry goldwater etc.)
So yes right wingers were using the boot.

Wrong side?! What's wrong with monarchy? Britain looks nice and fine. Pro-abortion? Ah yes, let's kill kids for fun. Anti-drug? Like it should be. This is the wrong side for you. But the right side is for me. And should be right for many others

Conservatives in Europe originally were pro -absolute monarchy. PERIOD

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Postby Floofybit » Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:10 am

North Korea Choson wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Wrong side?! What's wrong with monarchy? Britain looks nice and fine. Pro-abortion? Ah yes, let's kill kids for fun. Anti-drug? Like it should be. This is the wrong side for you. But the right side is for me. And should be right for many others

Conservatives in Europe originally were pro -absolute monarchy. PERIOD

Were. Can we talk about present day, because that matters for us as of now? Key word: were
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Postby Nationalist Northumbria » Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:10 am

North Korea Choson wrote:
Floofybit wrote:Wrong side?! What's wrong with monarchy? Britain looks nice and fine. Pro-abortion? Ah yes, let's kill kids for fun. Anti-drug? Like it should be. This is the wrong side for you. But the right side is for me. And should be right for many others

Conservatives in Europe originally were pro -absolute monarchy. PERIOD

WRONG. They were socialists.
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