Right-wing Extremism: Online Radicalism, Radicalization

[Ayytaly]

Centrist here. I'd agree with the U.S. Right-wing if they weren't the following three things:

* Anglo-Saxonists (English only policy; forced assimilation in favor of Anglo-American "culture" etc)

* Anti-Immigration (particularly against Latin America)

* Defensive of racist Native American motifs in sports

* Xenophobic in general (all the above examples)

* Anti-Environmentalists

* Anti-public healthcare

* Anti-public transportation

* Globalist

* Military worshipers (especially for a party full of chickenhawks)

* Gun nutters (I'm not anti-gun, just hate the irresponsible psychotic politicians that think guns are the most important thing to have)

* Hypocrites

I could go on and on

Pretty sure the left are the more Globalist ones.
You don't get to be xenophobic from being in support of global interconnectivity.

The Right's "muh Israel alliance" policy makes them globalist af.

[Based Illinois]

Pretty sure the left are the more Globalist ones.
You don't get to be xenophobic from being in support of global interconnectivity.

The Right's "muh Israel alliance" policy makes them globalist af.

Is the Italian jealous that his country's former backwater is the one which went on to conquer the world?

[Bewaffnete Krafte]

Pretty sure the left are the more Globalist ones.
You don't get to be xenophobic from being in support of global interconnectivity.

The Right's "muh Israel alliance" policy makes them globalist af.

Globalism is defined as the idea of working as a planet towards unified economic, political, and foreign policy.
Rightists tend to be Nationalistic, and that generally makes them against certain groups (like how US Right wingers are pro Israel, so they are anti-Palestine)
Nationalism is literally the opposite of Globalism.
Meanwhile, the left generally supports global cooperation (At least, I do, I could be an exception.)

[Ayytaly]

The Right's "muh Israel alliance" policy makes them globalist af.

Is the Italian jealous that his country's former backwater is the one which went on to conquer the world?

Losing two world wars isn't exactly conquering.

You're talking about Germany, right?

The Right's "muh Israel alliance" policy makes them globalist af.

Globalism is defined as the idea of working as a planet towards unified economic, political, and foreign policy.
Rightists tend to be Nationalistic, and that generally makes them against certain groups (like how US Right wingers are pro Israel, so they are anti-Palestine)
Nationalism is literally the opposite of Globalism.
Meanwhile, the left generally supports global cooperation (At least, I do, I could be an exception.)

Yeah, and the US-Israel alliance is exactly that.

Economic? The billions granted to Israel.

Political? AIPAC (a Republican-dominated pac as well as Trump declaring Jerusalem Israel's capital)

Foreign policy? Assisting Israel by bombing the shit out of surrounding nations.

[Bewaffnete Krafte]

Is the Italian jealous that his country's former backwater is the one which went on to conquer the world?

Losing two world wars isn't exactly conquering.

You're talking about Germany, right?

Globalism is defined as the idea of working as a planet towards unified economic, political, and foreign policy.
Rightists tend to be Nationalistic, and that generally makes them against certain groups (like how US Right wingers are pro Israel, so they are anti-Palestine)
Nationalism is literally the opposite of Globalism.
Meanwhile, the left generally supports global cooperation (At least, I do, I could be an exception.)

Yeah, and the US-Israel alliance is exactly that.

Economic? The billions granted to Israel.

Political? AIPAC (a Republican-dominated pac as well as Trump declaring Jerusalem Israel's capital)

Foreign policy? Assisting Israel by bombing the shit out of surrounding nations.

Bro, It's Globalism. It's not "US-Israelism"
Globalism is not "Have an ally and work with them."
Globalism is "Work with the entire planet towards common goals."
It's not Globalism when Belarus helps Russia in Ukraine, is it?

[Based Illinois]

Losing two world wars isn't exactly conquering.

You're talking about Germany, right?

Britain. In reference to your comment on Anglo-Saxonism ( though the Germs proper are doing a fine job themselves )

[Based Illinois]

Losing two world wars isn't exactly conquering.

You're talking about Germany, right?



Yeah, and the US-Israel alliance is exactly that.

Economic? The billions granted to Israel.

Political? AIPAC (a Republican-dominated pac as well as Trump declaring Jerusalem Israel's capital)

Foreign policy? Assisting Israel by bombing the shit out of surrounding nations.

Bro, It's Globalism. It's not "US-Israelism"
Globalism is not "Have an ally and work with them."
Globalism is "Work with the entire planet towards common goals."
It's not Globalism when Belarus helps Russia in Ukraine, is it?

In the contemporary sense, I would say that globalism is more of an economic idea - with politics only being a tool to be used by those who have the capital to wield them.

[Ayytaly]

Losing two world wars isn't exactly conquering.

You're talking about Germany, right?



Yeah, and the US-Israel alliance is exactly that.

Economic? The billions granted to Israel.

Political? AIPAC (a Republican-dominated pac as well as Trump declaring Jerusalem Israel's capital)

Foreign policy? Assisting Israel by bombing the shit out of surrounding nations.

Bro, It's Globalism. It's not "US-Israelism"
Globalism is not "Have an ally and work with them."
Globalism is "Work with the entire planet towards common goals."
It's not Globalism when Belarus helps Russia in Ukraine, is it?

That's a contradiction then.

Losing two world wars isn't exactly conquering.

You're talking about Germany, right?

Britain. In reference to your comment on Anglo-Saxonism ( though the Germs proper are doing a fine job themselves )

The Anglos originate from Germany. The true Brits are the Welsh.

[Bewaffnete Krafte]

Bro, It's Globalism. It's not "US-Israelism"
Globalism is not "Have an ally and work with them."
Globalism is "Work with the entire planet towards common goals."
It's not Globalism when Belarus helps Russia in Ukraine, is it?

That's a contradiction then.

Britain. In reference to your comment on Anglo-Saxonism ( though the Germs proper are doing a fine job themselves )

The Anglos originate from Germany. The true Brits are the Welsh.

It's literally not.
Globalism is, again, working with the WHOLE globe.
It isn't globalism of any kind to work with one nation, or even a few.
It's only globalism when it's, well, global.
Shouldn't this be obvious? It's in the name.

[Ayytaly]

That's a contradiction then.



The Anglos originate from Germany. The true Brits are the Welsh.

It's literally not.
Globalism is, again, working with the WHOLE globe.
It isn't globalism of any kind to work with one nation, or even a few.
It's only globalism when it's, well, global.
Shouldn't this be obvious? It's in the name.

U.S. neocolonialism over the Middle East and Central Asia at the height of the Cold War is very globalist of them.

[Based Illinois]

Bro, It's Globalism. It's not "US-Israelism"
Globalism is not "Have an ally and work with them."
Globalism is "Work with the entire planet towards common goals."
It's not Globalism when Belarus helps Russia in Ukraine, is it?

That's a contradiction then.

Britain. In reference to your comment on Anglo-Saxonism ( though the Germs proper are doing a fine job themselves )

The Anglos originate from Germany. The true Brits are the Welsh.

The Welsh are hardly human, but that's a matter for another day.

The Germanic peoples then, if we're being pedantic, certainly did go on to dominate the world: Britain, France, Germany, the United States - even Russia if we'd want to count the infusion by the vikings.

Point being, Italians are saltier than the ruins of Carthage

[United Calanworie]

That's a contradiction then.



The Anglos originate from Germany. The true Brits are the Welsh.

The Welsh are hardly human, but that's a matter for another day.

The Germanic peoples then, if we're being pedantic, certainly did go on to dominate the world: Britain, France, Germany, the United States - even Russia if we'd want to count the infusion by the vikings.

Point being, Italians are saltier than the ruins of Carthage

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[New haven america]

And who were the one's killing people?

Oh wait, it was the police and right wingers, the very people the left were protesting against. What a coincidence.

Leftists trying not to dehumanize their opponents (100% impossible)

You only have 6 posts and you were made a just a little bit before that post was made.

Guess why your (wrong) belief doesn't matter?

[Bukravia]

How many of you fallen down the alt-right pipeline?

Used to be an edgy Omegle-using Neo-Nazi larper, now I'm not one, really terrible and hateful ideologies that these dumbasses follow.

How have you gotten out of it?

Educating myself, and by realizing none of the ideas they keep on propagating will work. Most of the time, they're usually very cowardly, they won't do shit, all talk but no walk, you know what I mean?

Have you know anyone that has gone further?

2 guys, let's just say they're not friends of mine anymore, brainwashed by propaganda these animals keep making.

I remember this one furry femboy dude, he was gay, don't know where he is now, but last I saw him, he was harassing other gay dudes on Discord and in games.

Then there's this other guy, unironic skull mask-wearing Neo-nazi larper, he planned on joining the Marines from the last time I talked to him on Discord, really fucking hate this guy but he's real "popular" in the servers he was in and had a sizable "fanbase" (the Alt-right servers more specifically)

Is there an end?

Yes, by realizing that this shit should be dropped before you end up believing every lie these fake Christian 14-yr old white nationalists say. Though education is also an effective tool into stopping these idiots from falling down the rabbithole even further, that's how I got out aswell.

[Wynnemac]

How have you gotten out of it?

Educating myself, and by realizing none of the ideas they keep on propagating will work. Most of the time, they're usually very cowardly, they won't do shit, all talk but no walk, you know what I mean?

So, which is it? Are they very cowardly, or are they the greatest threat to the U.S. in recent memory?

Is there an end?

Yes, by realizing that this shit should be dropped before you end up believing every lie these fake Christian 14-yr old white nationalists say. Though education is also an effective tool into stopping these idiots from falling down the rabbithole even further, that's how I got out aswell.

What actually are the lies they propagate though? Because having a political/social opinion that is unacceptable to the twitter/facebook moderators doesn't automatically make it a lie.

[Australian rePublic]

Like it or not, it's SJWs that push people down the alt-right rabbit hole. When you're entire life is dedicated to screaming "racism, sexism, homophobia" etc. At things that aren't racist, sexist, homophobia, etc. When you spend you're whole life scrapping the bottom of the barrel to find things to be offended by, you're gonna push people so far away from your cause that they'll embrace anyone who opposes you, which happened to be the alt-right. That's how the alt-right sucks you in. There's a reason why many alt-right commentators are vocally anti-SJW, SJWs piss off people so much. If you're going to spend your life yelling racism at trivial bullshit like Eminem wearing a sombrero, then you're gonna push people so far away from your cause that you'll embrace anyone who makes fun of the idiot who got offended by Eminem wearing a Smabrero. The mocker happens to be far right. If the left pulled their fingers out and condemned political correctness, there would be less far right extremism


Bob is on the alt-right, LIsa is on the alt-left

Bob believes that all Mexicans should be deported. Lisa believes it's racist that racist for white people to wear a Sombrero
Bob NEVER says that all Mexicans should be deported. Bob says that it's not racist to wear a Sombrero
Lisa says that far right wingers like Bob shouldn't get to the right to vote, because they're racist
Bob says that I'm not racist just because I like wearing Sombreros. They want to take away my right to vote just because I like wearing Sombreros. If you don't think it's racist to wear a Sombrero, then they want to take away your right to vote, just like they do with mine.
The average Joe, completely oblivious to the fact that Bob wants to deport all Mexicans now supports Bob. Lisa has pushed people further away from her cause and more and more toward Bob's. Had Bob been stupid enough to say that he wanted to deport all Mexicans, he would have pushed people away from his cause. Had Lisa been smarte enough to avoid saying that it's racist to wear a Sombrero, she wouldn't have pushed anyone away from her cause. Alas, Bob was smarter than Lisa, so your average Joe is more sympathetic with him. Now, imagine a million Lisas doing this to vomit enducing levels and people are so sick of all Lisas of the world that they turn to the alt-right to get away from them

Okay, so it's obviously more complicated and nuanced than that, but that's the gist of it

There are other factors at play too, I could go on and on about factors, but they don't paint the left wing in the best light. The left need to pull their fingers out of their arses and condemn SJW political correctness bullshit. The left's failure to condemn SJW political correctness bullshit is their own fault. Don't sit there and cry about people moving to the alt-right when you yourself fail to condemn the bullshit that is SJW level political correctness. Your failure to do so will only lead more and more people to embrace the people who do call it out. This will continue to be the case whether or not you personally, think it's rational for it to be the case. Don't underestimate how much the SJW political correctness crowd has pissed people off. Just because you, personally think it's irrational for people to act like that, it's not going to stop people from acting like that. Your individual rationalisation doesn't apply here. Even if you think it's irrational it doesn't mean that other people do. If the alt-right are the only people who call out SJW crap, then people will move to the alt-right, and you can blame yourself for failure to call it out. If you fail to condemn SJW bullshit and you're upset about why people support those who do condemn that bullshit, then I sincerely hope that you realise that you're part of the problem. Further, mainstream leftist failure to condemn political correctness bullshit allows the alt-right to (falsly) lump the moderate left with SJWs, and thus claim that ALL leftists are part of the problem. If you're a moderate leftist who fails to condemn the SJW bullshit, you're as much to blame for the shift to the alt-right as the alt-right are themselves. If you're on the moderate and fail to condemn SJW crap, look in the mirror and yourself why. You're part of the problem. Seriously, if you yourself can't be arsed to call out SJW bullshit, then don't blame people who do that for winning over more people than you

[Bewaffnete Krafte]

How have you gotten out of it?

Educating myself, and by realizing none of the ideas they keep on propagating will work. Most of the time, they're usually very cowardly, they won't do shit, all talk but no walk, you know what I mean?

So, which is it? Are they very cowardly, or are they the greatest threat to the U.S. in recent memory?

Is there an end?

Yes, by realizing that this shit should be dropped before you end up believing every lie these fake Christian 14-yr old white nationalists say. Though education is also an effective tool into stopping these idiots from falling down the rabbithole even further, that's how I got out aswell.

What actually are the lies they propagate though? Because having a political/social opinion that is unacceptable to the twitter/facebook moderators doesn't automatically make it a lie.

He said Neonazi. So, I'm assuming, hating the jews and minorities?

[Techocracy101010]

Like it or not, it's SJWs that push people down the alt-right rabbit hole. When you're entire life is dedicated to screaming "racism, sexism, homophobia" etc. At things that aren't racist, sexist, homophobia, etc. When you spend you're whole life scrapping the bottom of the barrel to find things to be offended by, you're gonna push people so far away from your cause that they'll embrace anyone who opposes you, which happened to be the alt-right. That's how the alt-right sucks you in. There's a reason why many alt-right commentators are vocally anti-SJW, SJWs piss off people so much. If you're going to spend your life yelling racism at trivial bullshit like Eminem wearing a sombrero, then you're gonna push people so far away from your cause that you'll embrace anyone who makes fun of the idiot who got offended by Eminem wearing a Smabrero. The mocker happens to be far right. If the left pulled their fingers out and condemned political correctness, there would be less far right extremism


Bob is on the alt-right, LIsa is on the alt-left

Bob believes that all Mexicans should be deported. Lisa believes it's racist that racist for white people to wear a Sombrero
Bob NEVER says that all Mexicans should be deported. Bob says that it's not racist to wear a Sombrero
Lisa says that far right wingers like Bob shouldn't get to the right to vote, because they're racist
Bob says that I'm not racist just because I like wearing Sombreros. They want to take away my right to vote just because I like wearing Sombreros. If you don't think it's racist to wear a Sombrero, then they want to take away your right to vote, just like they do with mine.
The average Joe, completely oblivious to the fact that Bob wants to deport all Mexicans now supports Bob. Lisa has pushed people further away from her cause and more and more toward Bob's. Had Bob been stupid enough to say that he wanted to deport all Mexicans, he would have pushed people away from his cause. Had Lisa been smarte enough to avoid saying that it's racist to wear a Sombrero, she wouldn't have pushed anyone away from her cause. Alas, Bob was smarter than Lisa, so your average Joe is more sympathetic with him. Now, imagine a million Lisas doing this to vomit enducing levels and people are so sick of all Lisas of the world that they turn to the alt-right to get away from them

Okay, so it's obviously more complicated and nuanced than that, but that's the gist of it

There are other factors at play too, I could go on and on about factors, but they don't paint the left wing in the best light. The left need to pull their fingers out of their arses and condemn SJW political correctness bullshit. The left's failure to condemn SJW political correctness bullshit is their own fault. Don't sit there and cry about people moving to the alt-right when you yourself fail to condemn the bullshit that is SJW level political correctness. Your failure to do so will only lead more and more people to embrace the people who do call it out. This will continue to be the case whether or not you personally, think it's rational for it to be the case. Don't underestimate how much the SJW political correctness crowd has pissed people off. Just because you, personally think it's irrational for people to act like that, it's not going to stop people from acting like that. Your individual rationalisation doesn't apply here. Even if you think it's irrational it doesn't mean that other people do. If the alt-right are the only people who call out SJW crap, then people will move to the alt-right, and you can blame yourself for failure to call it out. If you fail to condemn SJW bullshit and you're upset about why people support those who do condemn that bullshit, then I sincerely hope that you realise that you're part of the problem. Further, mainstream leftist failure to condemn political correctness bullshit allows the alt-right to (falsly) lump the moderate left with SJWs, and thus claim that ALL leftists are part of the problem. If you're a moderate leftist who fails to condemn the SJW bullshit, you're as much to blame for the shift to the alt-right as the alt-right are themselves. If you're on the moderate and fail to condemn SJW crap, look in the mirror and yourself why. You're part of the problem. Seriously, if you yourself can't be arsed to call out SJW bullshit, then don't blame people who do that for winning over more people than you

As i noted in this thread and another Anita sarcesian did a number in pushing men my age down the alt right path. She would straight up lie about video games films comics movies etc to claim they were sexist . And than what happens her dumb ass is given time at the fucking UN to spread bullshit about how video games are sexist and the chans are going to kill us all.

[Australian rePublic]

Like it or not, it's SJWs that push people down the alt-right rabbit hole. When you're entire life is dedicated to screaming "racism, sexism, homophobia" etc. At things that aren't racist, sexist, homophobia, etc. When you spend you're whole life scrapping the bottom of the barrel to find things to be offended by, you're gonna push people so far away from your cause that they'll embrace anyone who opposes you, which happened to be the alt-right. That's how the alt-right sucks you in. There's a reason why many alt-right commentators are vocally anti-SJW, SJWs piss off people so much. If you're going to spend your life yelling racism at trivial bullshit like Eminem wearing a sombrero, then you're gonna push people so far away from your cause that you'll embrace anyone who makes fun of the idiot who got offended by Eminem wearing a Smabrero. The mocker happens to be far right. If the left pulled their fingers out and condemned political correctness, there would be less far right extremism


Bob is on the alt-right, LIsa is on the alt-left

Bob believes that all Mexicans should be deported. Lisa believes it's racist that racist for white people to wear a Sombrero
Bob NEVER says that all Mexicans should be deported. Bob says that it's not racist to wear a Sombrero
Lisa says that far right wingers like Bob shouldn't get to the right to vote, because they're racist
Bob says that I'm not racist just because I like wearing Sombreros. They want to take away my right to vote just because I like wearing Sombreros. If you don't think it's racist to wear a Sombrero, then they want to take away your right to vote, just like they do with mine.
The average Joe, completely oblivious to the fact that Bob wants to deport all Mexicans now supports Bob. Lisa has pushed people further away from her cause and more and more toward Bob's. Had Bob been stupid enough to say that he wanted to deport all Mexicans, he would have pushed people away from his cause. Had Lisa been smarte enough to avoid saying that it's racist to wear a Sombrero, she wouldn't have pushed anyone away from her cause. Alas, Bob was smarter than Lisa, so your average Joe is more sympathetic with him. Now, imagine a million Lisas doing this to vomit enducing levels and people are so sick of all Lisas of the world that they turn to the alt-right to get away from them

Okay, so it's obviously more complicated and nuanced than that, but that's the gist of it

There are other factors at play too, I could go on and on about factors, but they don't paint the left wing in the best light. The left need to pull their fingers out of their arses and condemn SJW political correctness bullshit. The left's failure to condemn SJW political correctness bullshit is their own fault. Don't sit there and cry about people moving to the alt-right when you yourself fail to condemn the bullshit that is SJW level political correctness. Your failure to do so will only lead more and more people to embrace the people who do call it out. This will continue to be the case whether or not you personally, think it's rational for it to be the case. Don't underestimate how much the SJW political correctness crowd has pissed people off. Just because you, personally think it's irrational for people to act like that, it's not going to stop people from acting like that. Your individual rationalisation doesn't apply here. Even if you think it's irrational it doesn't mean that other people do. If the alt-right are the only people who call out SJW crap, then people will move to the alt-right, and you can blame yourself for failure to call it out. If you fail to condemn SJW bullshit and you're upset about why people support those who do condemn that bullshit, then I sincerely hope that you realise that you're part of the problem. Further, mainstream leftist failure to condemn political correctness bullshit allows the alt-right to (falsly) lump the moderate left with SJWs, and thus claim that ALL leftists are part of the problem. If you're a moderate leftist who fails to condemn the SJW bullshit, you're as much to blame for the shift to the alt-right as the alt-right are themselves. If you're on the moderate and fail to condemn SJW crap, look in the mirror and yourself why. You're part of the problem. Seriously, if you yourself can't be arsed to call out SJW bullshit, then don't blame people who do that for winning over more people than you

As i noted in this thread and another Anita sarcesian did a number in pushing men my age down the alt right path. She would straight up lie about video games films comics movies etc to claim they were sexist . And than what happens her dumb ass is given time at the fucking UN to spread bullshit about how video games are sexist and the chans are going to kill us all.

Yea, well as long as long as that crap keeps getting perpetrated, ernestly or maliciously, and as long as no one outside of the alt-right calls out the bullshit, more people will turn to the alt-right. Honestly, it doesn't matter whether or not this SJW crap is ernest, my point still stands either way

[Necroghastia]

the alt-right are as much if not moreso wolf-crying SJWs, you realize

[Based Illinois]

The Welsh are hardly human, but that's a matter for another day.

The Germanic peoples then, if we're being pedantic, certainly did go on to dominate the world: Britain, France, Germany, the United States - even Russia if we'd want to count the infusion by the vikings.

Point being, Italians are saltier than the ruins of Carthage

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Did I just get a warning for trolling because I made racially insensative comments about a minority group in a discussion thread about right-wing extremism?

For hesitation that I might get a temp ban, I won't say Based, but like... * raises eye brows *... come on, that's kind of on the money

[Doofinshmirtz]

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Did I just get a warning for trolling because I made racially insensative comments about a minority group in a discussion thread about right-wing extremism?

For hesitation that I might get a temp ban, I won't say Based, but like... * raises eye brows *... come on, that's kind of on the money

I dont know what she was going on about; I found it rather funny.
Mods amirite? Oh well.

[Sordhau]

Looking back I would say I almost fell down the Right-wing rabbit hole. My initial political views when I was teenager where very pro-intervention, pro-capitalist, and right-libertarian. Over time I slowly became disillusioned with this and veered more toward authoritarianism while still remaining Right-wing. Fascism started to appeal to me to a degree but ultimately I wasn't able to mesh my progressive social views with Fascist politics so I just kinda drifted away from that before becoming a more nationalistic SocDem by the time I was an adult. After three years of experience in manufacturing, two elections with equally piss-poor choices (Clinton-Trump, Biden-Trump), a 4 year Trump Admin that flirted with Fascism, and two years of out-of-touch ramblings and empty promises from the Biden Admin I just gave up on Liberalism entirely and embraced the Left-wing.

[Australian rePublic]

the alt-right are as much if not moreso wolf-crying SJWs, you realize

Yea, but they're better at marketing

[Ayytaly]

the alt-right are as much if not moreso wolf-crying SJWs, you realize

The irony is that the alt-right preaches individualism and hates "muh cummo-socialism" yet use snowflake as an insult. Yeah, snowflakes. Little specks of ice each with a unique design. No two are the same (with rare exceptions)


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