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Postby Christian Confederation » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:02 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/20 ... nsistency/
"Democrats significantly more liberal than 20 years ago."

But since 2004, Republicans have veered sharply back to the right on all of these dimensions, and the GOP ideological shift over the past decade has matched, if not exceeded, the rate at which Democrats have become more liberal.

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Postby Greater Guantanamo » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:03 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:The Khmer Rouge vaguely claimed to adhere to Maoist ideology for the sake of aid and weapons from the PRC but Pol Pot and and numerous other leading figures in the movement and government later said they actually didn't give an iota of a fuck about leftist politics. It was a Khmer ultranationalist movement that drapped itself in left wing imagery for the sake of foreign relations and dropped said imagery almost immediately when it was no longer useful.

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Postby Necroghastia » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:03 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:

Eventually your country gets destroyed so fast you have to slam on the brakes to save it.

So tell me, what precisely does "so far left" mean?
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:04 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:

Eventually your country gets destroyed so fast you have to slam on the brakes to save it.

Liberals despite their flaws are not destroying the country, nor is the Republican Party embracing the far-right going so save it. On the contrary, the far-right are more likely to destroy the country for petty political gains.
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Postby Southern Republic of Dixie » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:05 pm

Dimetrodon Empire wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:Eventually your country gets destroyed so fast you have to slam on the brakes to save it.

Liberals despite their flaws are not destroying the country, nor is the Republican Party embracing the far-right going so save it. On the contrary, the far-right are more likely to destroy the country for petty political gains.

I would say the Establishment has done a well enough job with that. With the recession going on.
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Postby HISPIDA » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:05 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:
Hispida wrote:liberalism isn't leftism though

Not classical liberalism, modern liberalism is definitely left.

modern liberalism is a pro-capitalist, pro-property, and pro-individualist worldview. it actively antagonizes against socialism and continues systems of imperialism in slavery in the underdeveloped world. it is not "left" by any means of the imagination.
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Postby Christian Confederation » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:13 pm

Necroghastia wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:Eventually your country gets destroyed so fast you have to slam on the brakes to save it.

So tell me, what precisely does "so far left" mean?

They have destroyed the holy bond of marriage, they tanked our economy and act like nothing is wrong, they're grooming and mutilating our children, they destroyed basic gender roles, destroyed our culture, aborted our children, and to top it all off they have demoralized our men.
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Postby Torisakia » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:13 pm

There is no end. First it's right-wing, then left, then all the others. Soon all positions will become radical. That's when the world Armageddon begins.
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Postby Techocracy101010 » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:18 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:So tell me, what precisely does "so far left" mean?

They have destroyed the holy bond of marriage, they tanked our economy and act like nothing is wrong, they're grooming and mutilating our children, they destroyed basic gender roles, destroyed our culture, aborted our children, and to top it all off they have demoralized our men.



Bush started two wars that ran up a tab of ten trillion destroyed clintons budget surplus and than de regulated banking causing 08 .

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Postby Port Caverton » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:19 pm

Techocracy101010 wrote:
Christian Confederation wrote:They have destroyed the holy bond of marriage, they tanked our economy and act like nothing is wrong, they're grooming and mutilating our children, they destroyed basic gender roles, destroyed our culture, aborted our children, and to top it all off they have demoralized our men.



Bush started two wars that ran up a tab of ten trillion destroyed clintons budget surplus and than de regulated banking causing 08 .

Bushy did nothing wrong
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Postby HISPIDA » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:26 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:So tell me, what precisely does "so far left" mean?

They have destroyed the holy bond of marriage

relevant
they're grooming and mutilating our children

relevant
they destroyed basic gender roles

relevant
destroyed our culture

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they have demoralized our men.

relevant
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Postby Techocracy101010 » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:27 pm

Port Caverton wrote:
Techocracy101010 wrote:

Bush started two wars that ran up a tab of ten trillion destroyed clintons budget surplus and than de regulated banking causing 08 .

Bushy did nothing wrong



Bush passed the patriot act . Any of that deep state shit folks love to rail on about yeah bush and co passed that shit while morons were thinking it would only affect brown people. Cons loved cheering on the boot of the state thinking it would only hurt undesirables , but the boot cares not for whose throat it steps on . Politically i consider cons lower than liberals as they are even more caught up in their own buzz word soup salad some how and fail to understand how their past policies have helped create a modern society dominated by mega corps and an oligarchy . The libs despite contributing at least are somewhat aware they are getting screwed. To conservatives whining about whats happening to trump none of this could have happened with out your decadeds long felatation of the fbi , dea, and big state entities that are part of the deep state . Have fun living in the monster yall made . Libertarians tried to warn you .

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priced house owned by an investment firm like black rock you will go out side and be profiled by an ai system run by a defense contractor that feeds your data to cbp, fbi dea and atf amongst others 24/7 . There will be next to no small town america left after amazon and other megacorps have found ways to extract all the profit. On the upside while you meander to your shit mc job you can bask in the knowledge there are record profits . But they are not for you , you will never see them because you are not in the in club of the elites you worshiped, you never wer. You can mutter your empty moral platitudes to yourself saying your suffering is christ like but none of the younger generations will care or heed your religion which only offers submissiveness to the state.
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Postby Greater Guantanamo » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:31 pm

Techocracy101010 wrote:
Port Caverton wrote:Bushy did nothing wrong



Bush passed the patriot act . Any of that deep state shit folks love to rail on about yeah bush and co passed that shit while morons were thinking it would only affect brown people. Cons loved cheering on the boot of the state thinking it would only hurt undesirables , but the boot cares not for whose throat it steps on . Politically i consider cons lower than liberals as they are even more caught up in their own buzz word soup salad some how and fail to understand how their past policies have helped create a modern society dominated by mega corps and an oligarchy . The libs despite contributing at least are somewhat aware they are getting screwed. To conservatives whining about whats happening to trump none of this could have happened with out your decadeds long felatation of the fbi , dea, and big state entities that are part of the deep state . Have fun living in the monster yall made . Libertarians tried to warn you .

Like I said, Bushy did nothing wrong.

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Postby HISPIDA » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:31 pm

Greater Guantanamo wrote:
Techocracy101010 wrote:

Bush passed the patriot act . Any of that deep state shit folks love to rail on about yeah bush and co passed that shit while morons were thinking it would only affect brown people. Cons loved cheering on the boot of the state thinking it would only hurt undesirables , but the boot cares not for whose throat it steps on . Politically i consider cons lower than liberals as they are even more caught up in their own buzz word soup salad some how and fail to understand how their past policies have helped create a modern society dominated by mega corps and an oligarchy . The libs despite contributing at least are somewhat aware they are getting screwed. To conservatives whining about whats happening to trump none of this could have happened with out your decadeds long felatation of the fbi , dea, and big state entities that are part of the deep state . Have fun living in the monster yall made . Libertarians tried to warn you .

Like I said, Bushy did nothing wrong.

ah, i was wondering who this was.

i don't know why it took me this long, though.
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Postby Necroghastia » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:33 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:So tell me, what precisely does "so far left" mean?

They have destroyed the holy bond of marriage, they tanked our economy and act like nothing is wrong, they're grooming and mutilating our children, they destroyed basic gender roles, destroyed our culture, aborted our children, and to top it all off they have demoralized our men.

LMAO you had me going there for a bit
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Postby El Lazaro » Fri Sep 23, 2022 7:19 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Southern Republic of Dixie wrote:Than shouldn't wikipedia and other said top sources of Google be changed? And why hasn't it.


I don't really think they should be changed. They did claim to be communists after all, their party was named as such and Democratic Kampuchea clothed itself in that sort of imagery. It's just the idea of them actually being leftists falls apart when you begin to really study them beyond reading a few lines on wiki, from start to finish the Khmer Rouge were about making Cambodia a nation for Khmers and Khmers only.

I will believe that Pol Pot was a true believer before any other “communist” leaders because he actually made steps towards demolishing the pillars of capitalism. Granted, he did it in the worst way possible, and the other half of it was literally just Hitler but Cambodian. But an attempt was sort of made.

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Postby North Korea Choson » Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:38 pm

Sordhau wrote:
Nilokeras wrote:It's a rather simple process, really: in the latter parts of the 20th century popular leftist movements were either coopted into capitalism or crushed, closing off an entire wing of political analysis which correctly diagnoses the problems society faces. At the same time, the hegemony of the centre and right was completed and they successfully stripped out the material gains won by those leftist popular movements earlier in the century. Quality of life declined, deindustrialization sprung up, unions were cut out of peoples' lives and the dissonance between the rhetoric out of the centre/right coalition in charge across the West and peoples' lived experience grew ever larger.

In the absence of left messaging, the only political current that acknowledged anything was wrong and that peoples' lives were getting worse, not better, was the far right. Their analysis of exactly what was wrong and how to fix it is hopelessly wrong, of course, but that hardly matters. It's also a useful phenomena for the powers that be: since rightist analyses are hopelessly wrong and fail to direct their adherents at the real foundation stones of the neoliberal order, they are a tolerable enough diversion that takes energy that could have gone towards, say, unionization drives and divert it towards 'campus kangaroo courts' or doxxing trans Twitch streamers.

It's all very sad and avoidable, really.


Further proof that the wrong side won the Cold War.

No Please no. The Right side won even though it was no saint. As a European I am terrified what would happen if USSR won the Cold War most probably they would conquer rest of mainland Europe and impose Communism there. Democracy would die, Economy will stagnate, Secret police would kill anyone they find suspicious and many people will go to Gulags.
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Postby North Korea Choson » Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:40 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:So tell me, what precisely does "so far left" mean?

They have destroyed the holy bond of marriage, they tanked our economy and act like nothing is wrong, they're grooming and mutilating our children, they destroyed basic gender roles, destroyed our culture, aborted our children, and to top it all off they have demoralized our men.

This is very funny ngl :rofl:
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Postby My Bedrom » Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:42 pm

Why do all of these political threads turn in to some sort of flame war after around pages 2-3

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Postby North Korea Choson » Fri Sep 23, 2022 8:44 pm

My Bedrom wrote:Why do all of these political threads turn in to some sort of flame war after around pages 2-3

Such is Life my friend....
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Postby Southern Republic of Dixie » Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:22 pm

North Korea Choson wrote:
My Bedrom wrote:Why do all of these political threads turn in to some sort of flame war after around pages 2-3

Such is Life my friend....

Agreed . also nice flag (I actually had one for months of my flag color Overlayed like the Ukraine flag.)
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Postby Sordhau » Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:43 pm

North Korea Choson wrote:
Sordhau wrote:
Further proof that the wrong side won the Cold War.

No Please no. The Right side won even though it was no saint. As a European I am terrified what would happen if USSR won the Cold War most probably they would conquer rest of mainland Europe and impose Communism there. Democracy would die, Economy will stagnate, Secret police would kill anyone they find suspicious and many people will go to Gulags.


Fifth grade level understanding of Communism.
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Postby Kalivyah » Fri Sep 23, 2022 9:50 pm

Christian Confederation wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:So tell me, what precisely does "so far left" mean?

They have destroyed the holy bond of marriage, they tanked our economy and act like nothing is wrong, they're grooming and mutilating our children, they destroyed basic gender roles, destroyed our culture, aborted our children, and to top it all off they have demoralized our men.

... Hold on- let me put on my glasses.
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- "I don't like Polygamous people!"
- Okay true
- "I don't like that trans people are actually getting rights and aren't just being beaten to death!"
- "I don't like that women have rights!"
- "I don't like that I have to see more brown people!"
- Okay true
- "I HATE femboys!"
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Postby North Korea Choson » Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:17 pm

Sordhau wrote:
North Korea Choson wrote:No Please no. The Right side won even though it was no saint. As a European I am terrified what would happen if USSR won the Cold War most probably they would conquer rest of mainland Europe and impose Communism there. Democracy would die, Economy will stagnate, Secret police would kill anyone they find suspicious and many people will go to Gulags.


Fifth grade level understanding of Communism.

Tell it to those Polish, Latvians, Lithuanian, Estonian, Moldavian or a Ukrainian. Eastern European were very happy to be in a worker's paradise.
East Germany was such a paradise that they had to built a wall to keep its people in.
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Postby North Korea Choson » Fri Sep 23, 2022 10:19 pm

Southern Republic of Dixie wrote:
North Korea Choson wrote:Such is Life my friend....

Agreed . also nice flag (I actually had one for months of my flag color Overlayed like the Ukraine flag.)
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