What do you think of Communism

[Valles Marineris Mining co]

Welcome to North Korea, here you starve and go homeless because the state is incompetent.

Welcome to South Korea, here you starve and go homeless because the state is incompetent.

Capitalism 101!

From Wikipedia: Communism (from Latin communis, 'common, universal')[1][2] is a left-wing to far-left sociopolitical, philosophical, and economic ideology within the socialist movement

>accuses others of brainlet takes
>gets definitions from wikipedia

Literally I just used Wikipedia cus it was the most accessible source. Also literally everyone calls communism an ideology, cus it is an ideology

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

i guess that South Koreans falling over at 32 from heart-attacks is just completely normal and expected and sunshine and rainbows then

[Theodorable]

What ideology? Communism isn't an ideology. It's a state of affairs arising from material circumstances.

From Wikipedia: Communism (from Latin communis, 'common, universal')[1][2] is a left-wing to far-left sociopolitical, philosophical, and economic ideology within the socialist movement

"Communism", the 'movement' which advocates for communism, is different than communism, the state of affairs. Read Marx.

Also blud uses wikipedia and expects me to take him seriously

[Valles Marineris Mining co]

i guess that South Koreans falling over at 32 from heart-attacks is just completely normal and expected and sunshine and rainbows then

At least they have a functioning state. Remind me, how many socialist states haven’t turned into an authoritarian shithole?

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

the point is

if you are gonna say North Korea is a shithole (true) and South Korea is a paradise (wrong) then you are out fucking biking in the woods.

[Theodorable]

Capitalism 101!



>accuses others of brainlet takes
>gets definitions from wikipedia

Literally I just used Wikipedia cus it was the most accessible source. Also literally everyone calls communism an ideology, cus it is an ideology

"Communism is an ideology because... because it just IS, okay??"

[Urine Town]

the point is

if you are gonna say North Korea is a shithole (true) and South Korea is a paradise (wrong) then you are out fucking biking in the woods.

I’d like you to name one person in this thread who stated that South Korea is a paradise, seeing as how you brought it up

[Valles Marineris Mining co]

the point is

if you are gonna say North Korea is a shithole (true) and South Korea is a paradise (wrong) then you are out fucking biking in the woods.

Naw South Korea is a capitalist shithole, but better than North Korea that’s for sure.

A welfare economy is the best imo. Reform capitalism to prevent it from being absurd and to make it more friendly to the human condition.

[Great Khavar]

i guess that South Koreans falling over at 32 from heart-attacks is just completely normal and expected and sunshine and rainbows then

At least they have a functioning state. Remind me, how many socialist states haven’t turned into an authoritarian shithole?

Given that there are no and have never been any socialist states, zero.

[Stellar Colonies]

At least they have a functioning state. Remind me, how many socialist states haven’t turned into an authoritarian shithole?

Given that there are no and have never been any socialist states, zero.

How is a revolution to succeed?

[Valles Marineris Mining co]

Literally I just used Wikipedia cus it was the most accessible source. Also literally everyone calls communism an ideology, cus it is an ideology

"Communism is an ideology because... because it just IS, okay??"

Naw it’s a religion.

They have a followers (proletariat) and heretics (bourgeois)

They have holy books (Das Kapital and the Communist Manifesto)

They have saints (Lenin, Marx, Engels, etc)

They even have multiple sects: Anarcho-Communism, Stalinism, Marxist-Leninism, Trotskyism, etc

They deny logic that doesn’t uphold their beliefs: Humans are naturally selfish

[Great Khavar]

Given that there are no and have never been any socialist states, zero.

How is a revolution to succeed?

The full answer to that question is a bit complicated, but given the context here the short answer to your question is internationally, or preferably globally.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

the idea that the greatest social species on planet Earth are actually raging species-destroying egoists only happened by a hundred years of pernicious capitalist brainwashing.
sorta became a self-fulfilling prophecy these days... what with all the sociopaths in power speedrunning the next mass extinction...

[Theodorable]

"Communism is an ideology because... because it just IS, okay??"

Naw it’s a religion.

They have a followers (proletariat) and heretics (bourgeois)

They have holy books (Das Kapital and the Communist Manifesto)

They have saints (Lenin, Marx, Engels, etc)

They even have multiple sects: Anarcho-Communism, Stalinism, Marxist-Leninism, Trotskyism, etc

They deny logic that doesn’t uphold their beliefs: Humans are naturally selfish

Humans are not naturally selfish. We're naturally cooperative. Greed is called a "sin" for a reason.

[Valles Marineris Mining co]

At least they have a functioning state. Remind me, how many socialist states haven’t turned into an authoritarian shithole?

Given that there are no and have never been any socialist states, zero.

This is the problem with both communism and capitalism: They both cope with “It wasn’t real communism/capitalism, those countries were just Stalinist/Crony-Capitalists!”

Welfare capitalism on the hand, is real and has succeeded.

[Theodorable]

Given that there are no and have never been any socialist states, zero.

This is the problem with both communism and capitalism: They both cope with “It wasn’t real communism/capitalism, those countries were just Stalinist/Crony-Capitalists!”

Welfare capitalism on the hand, is real and has succeeded.

Slapping a bandaid on a missing arm is not, as a matter of fact, "succeeding" in making it better.

[American Legionaries]

At least they have a functioning state. Remind me, how many socialist states haven’t turned into an authoritarian shithole?

Given that there are no and have never been any socialist states, zero.

Imagine thinking that a track record of total, horrifying failure is a defense of your beliefs.

[Valrifall]

Given that there are no and have never been any socialist states, zero.

This is the problem with both communism and capitalism: They both cope with “It wasn’t real communism/capitalism, those countries were just Stalinist/Crony-Capitalists!”

Welfare capitalism on the hand, is real and has succeeded.

Mussolini speech bubble.

[Valles Marineris Mining co]

the idea that the greatest social species on planet Earth are actually raging species-destroying egoists only happened by a hundred years of pernicious capitalist brainwashing.
sorta became a self-fulfilling prophecy these days... what with all the sociopaths in power speedrunning the next mass extinction...

Damn your just proving my point that it’s a religion

“Humans aren’t naturally sinful, we are manipulated by Satan”

“Humans aren’t naturally selfish, we are manipulated by capitalism”

Damn, you guys even have your own Satan too.

[Valrifall]

Given that there are no and have never been any socialist states, zero.

Imagine thinking that a track record of total, horrifying failure is a defense of your beliefs.

Listen when I exercise my specific power fantasy on the world then we will have achieved true socialism.

[American Legionaries]

Imagine thinking that a track record of total, horrifying failure is a defense of your beliefs.

Listen when I exercise my specific power fantasy on the world then we will have achieved true socialism.

Aren't you supposed to defend your ideas?

[Great Khavar]

the idea that the greatest social species on planet Earth are actually raging species-destroying egoists only happened by a hundred years of pernicious capitalist brainwashing.
sorta became a self-fulfilling prophecy these days... what with all the sociopaths in power speedrunning the next mass extinction...

Capitalism selects for sociopathy because a lack of empathy allows for more effective profiteering. Survival of the most selfish!

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

the idea that the greatest social species on planet Earth are actually raging species-destroying egoists only happened by a hundred years of pernicious capitalist brainwashing.
sorta became a self-fulfilling prophecy these days... what with all the sociopaths in power speedrunning the next mass extinction...

Damn your just proving my point that it’s a religion

“Humans aren’t naturally sinful, we are manipulated by Satan”

“Humans aren’t naturally selfish, we are manipulated by capitalism”

Damn, you guys even have your own Satan too.

this is sorta on the level of creationism in that it sees nearly 9 billion human beings on planet Earth, the undeniably most successful and greatest social animal species we have evidence of... and declares that they all are actually raging egoists waiting to backstab eachother.

[Valles Marineris Mining co]

This is the problem with both communism and capitalism: They both cope with “It wasn’t real communism/capitalism, those countries were just Stalinist/Crony-Capitalists!”

Welfare capitalism on the hand, is real and has succeeded.

Slapping a bandaid on a missing arm is not, as a matter of fact, "succeeding" in making it better.

If we’re going with the amputee analogy, then communism is both the amputee and the doctor cut their arms off. Capitalism is the amputee gets their arm cut off and left there and told to cope, and welfare capitalism is where a person gets a prosthetic.

[Port Carverton]

Damn your just proving my point that it’s a religion

“Humans aren’t naturally sinful, we are manipulated by Satan”

“Humans aren’t naturally selfish, we are manipulated by capitalism”

Damn, you guys even have your own Satan too.

this is sorta on the level of creationism in that it sees nearly 9 billion human beings on planet Earth, the undeniably most successful and greatest social animal species we have evidence of... and declares that they all are actually raging egoists waiting to backstab eachother.

It's not like we haven't spent the last few thousand years waging war on each other