My Vote Doesn't Matter

[Kalivyah]

You live in New York. Let's see an opinion from somewhere else.

what makes a small town in New York different from one in Idaho? Most local elections are decided on local issues not money from wealthy people.

The difference is that one is in an extremely wealthy Yank state and the other one is in Idaho.

[San Lumen]

what makes a small town in New York different from one in Idaho? Most local elections are decided on local issues not money from wealthy people.

The difference is that one is in an extremely wealthy Yank state and the other one is in Idaho.

That is a generalization. There are plenty of small towns in upstate New York that are not wealthy.

[Kalivyah]

The difference is that one is in an extremely wealthy Yank state and the other one is in Idaho.

That is a generalization. There are plenty of small towns in upstate New York that are not wealthy.

Generalization to know that an extremely wealthy state is going to have a wealthy rural population regardless of area. Unless you live in the middle of Nowhere, U.S.A.

[San Lumen]

That is a generalization. There are plenty of small towns in upstate New York that are not wealthy.

Generalization to know that an extremely wealthy state is going to have a wealthy rural population regardless of area. Unless you live in the middle of Nowhere, U.S.A.

Again this is untrue. There are many towns in upstate New York that are not wealthy. I have been some towns upstate and I can assure you some of them are not rich well off communities.

[Kalivyah]

Generalization to know that an extremely wealthy state is going to have a wealthy rural population regardless of area. Unless you live in the middle of Nowhere, U.S.A.

Again this is untrue. There are many towns in upstate New York that are not wealthy. I have been some towns upstate and I can assure you some of them are not rich well off communities.

Back it up with a journalistic source.

[San Lumen]

Again this is untrue. There are many towns in upstate New York that are not wealthy. I have been some towns upstate and I can assure you some of them are not rich well off communities.

Back it up with a journalistic source.

Many of these small towns don't have their own newspaper. Why should I have to do research to refute your claim? Why don't you provide the evidence that refutes things I've seen in my own state?

[Platoon of Peace]

Again this is untrue. There are many towns in upstate New York that are not wealthy. I have been some towns upstate and I can assure you some of them are not rich well off communities.

Back it up with a journalistic source.

Albany, New York, which isn't really a town but it's the best I can find, is quite a poor area, and that's north of NYC. Also, New York state has teh 19th highest poverty rate in the USA.

[Erablegensstan]

Then how is it that most of the legislation passed in democracies such as the US only benefits special interest groups.

Another lie.

Are mayors and cities all in the pocket of special interests and wealthy elites? What about small towns?

Im talking about at a federal level

[San Lumen]

Back it up with a journalistic source.

Albany, New York, which isn't really a town but it's the best I can find, is quite a poor area, and that's north of NYC. Also, New York state has teh 19th highest poverty rate in the USA.

Albany isn't what it used to be. Its gotten much better.

[Alcala-Cordel]

Then how is it that most of the legislation passed in democracies such as the US only benefits special interest groups.

Another lie.

Are mayors and cities all in the pocket of special interests and wealthy elites? What about small towns?

Anyone in charge of anything above a small town, really.

[San Lumen]

Another lie.

Are mayors and cities all in the pocket of special interests and wealthy elites? What about small towns?

Anyone in charge of anything above a small town, really.

Define small town.

[Ayytaly]

Anyone in charge of anything above a small town, really.

Define small town.

Less than 100,000 population and majority white.

It's all in context. (I live in New York)

[Alcala-Cordel]

Anyone in charge of anything above a small town, really.

Define small town.

<1000 people. I mean tiny.

[Platoon of Peace]

Albany, New York, which isn't really a town but it's the best I can find, is quite a poor area, and that's north of NYC. Also, New York state has teh 19th highest poverty rate in the USA.

Albany isn't what it used to be. Its gotten much better.

I'll take your word for it, as you're much more informed than I am about new york and the poverty and stuff there.

[San Lumen]

Define small town.

Less than 100,000 population and majority white.

It's all in context. (I live in New York)

What does being white have to do with it?

[San Lumen]

Another lie.

Are mayors and cities all in the pocket of special interests and wealthy elites? What about small towns?

Anyone in charge of anything above a small town, really.

prove it.

[Alcala-Cordel]

Anyone in charge of anything above a small town, really.

prove it.

Went on google maps, zoomed out, zoomed in, found a town, googled it, got this. Did it again, found this. Corruption is everywhere, and beside that, campaigns are expensive, and the highest spenders are significantly more likely to win. You either have to be elite yourself or accept money from the elite(which takes concessions) to get anywhere.

[San Lumen]

prove it.

Went on google maps, zoomed out, zoomed in, found a town, googled it, got this. Did it again, found this. Corruption is everywhere, and beside that, campaigns are expensive, and the highest spenders are significantly more likely to win. You either have to be elite yourself or accept money from the elite(which takes concessions) to get anywhere.

Your generalizing.

What makes the mayor of Albany a rich elitist? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathy_Sheehan

[Alcala-Cordel]

Went on google maps, zoomed out, zoomed in, found a town, googled it, got this. Did it again, found this. Corruption is everywhere, and beside that, campaigns are expensive, and the highest spenders are significantly more likely to win. You either have to be elite yourself or accept money from the elite(which takes concessions) to get anywhere.

Your generalizing.

What makes the mayor of Albany a rich elitist? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathy_Sheehan

https://www.timesunion.com/news/article ... 838735.php

Too easy.

[Erablegensstan]

Define small town.

Less than 100,000 population and majority white.

It's all in context. (I live in New York)

Has nothing to do with race. In a US context, there are plenty of city boroughs and towns that are majority non-white and have plenty of political corruption.

[San Lumen]

Your generalizing.

What makes the mayor of Albany a rich elitist? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kathy_Sheehan

https://www.timesunion.com/news/article ... 838735.php

Too easy.

That was several years ago. Nothing came of it.

[New Zoigai]

Define small town.

Less than 100,000 population and majority white.

It's all in context. (I live in New York)

So some of the cities near the Atlanta metropolitan area arent small towns because they dont have a majority white population?

(While usually only having 10-30 thousand residents)

[Jasumaa]

I prefer a controlled opposition style democracy anyways. The political vanguard party and then mass organizations representing the various segments of society that advocate on their beliefs. Should any organization gain too much power then the government knows where to shift focus. Kinda like Singapore and the PAP or the PRC, or even Japan to a lesser extent.

[Nolo gap]

there are many kinds of 'votes' and many ways in which the count.

every breath you take, every move you make, influences to some degree, everyone with even the slightest awareness of your doing so.
just not often in ways readily observable.

lack of control is not lack of influence. that's really a self oriented perspective to conflate them with each other.
and i think that's one of the problems we're having too.

all of us are peers, none of us the center of the universe, no matter how much more or less influence then each other, some may aquire.
elite is not different flesh. hierarchy is not defalut condition, but rather one of the more simple and obvious ways to organize a society.

nations are optional. people destroyng each other, whether to create or destroy them, are not being very nice to do so, regardless.
and while some may consider 'not being very nice' trivial, it is the cause of all unpleasantness in our world,
which they are not imune themselves, to that unplasantness turning around and biting themselves as well.

if anything, it is those seeking vengence against the more (or even less) fortunate, sometimes innocently so,
who are trying to make our votes not count.

[The Sherpa Empire]

I'm not here to give my opinion on such matters, as well, I'm apolitical, but instead of the bloggy title, maybe you should name it "Do you vote? If not, why?" and have like a poll or something to give a little bit of interactivity with the post. I'm no 'post-master' but I think it would be a nice change, have a great day.
(Oh, cool flag too.)

Thanks for the suggestions and I'm glad you like my flag. The title is meant to make a point, the fact that those outside of the majority have no voice or influence on the social structures they're forced under. Maybe I'll make a poll.

I have literally no one to vote for. None of the candidates want to do what I want them to do, and even if they did they'd just end up getting the Allende treatment. Pursuing Socialism through the electoral system of a Liberal Democracy is about as effective as peacefully protesting against a Fascist regime. You end up eating a bullet either way.

Right, but despite receiving fuck all of what we individually want, we still have to work, pay in to the system and abide by it.....while getting absolutely nothing in return. That's prisoner exploitation. "All men are created equal", bullshit, I have to pay taxes and go along with everyone's shit, while not being able to have any choice in what society decides for me. I don't get any compensation or special autonomy and my pursuit of happiness is directly impeded by some 331 million people. I personally wouldn't care if you wanted to form some official, semi-autonomous socialist city, but you know the majority won't tolerate anything outside the status quo. They just get everything they want and cast everyone else aside.

If you don't receive anything in return for participating in society, why don't you just go to a deserted island or an uninhabited wilderness?

Oh, right, those places don't have running water, convenient road access, electricity, internet, grocery stores, or any of the other hundreds of things you use that come from other people's work.

So don't sit there and tell us you aren't getting anything out of it when you participate in society.

You don't get to decide what everyone else does, but you have tons of choices about how you want to live your own life. Maybe spend less time ranting about "society" and more time working on your own life.