Should The British Monarchy End?

[Heloin]

Yes.

No, it should not end. The monarchy is vital to Britain’s culture and uniqueness. Without the Monarchy, the United Kingdom would be much less united and not a kingdom at all.

Good.

[Densaner]

Yes, the monarchy has had its day, time to move on. Getting rid of the monarchy is only one change that is needed. Abolishing the House of Lords, changing the voting system for the Commons and more powers for the devolved administrations and English regions, are all necessary reforms. The 'dead hand' of Whitehall needs to die.

[Iskanistan]

Yes.

Why?

[Heloin]

Yes.

Why?

All monarchs are bad.

[The Aber]

Why?

All monarchs are bad.

Replace that with "communist leaders", and I'd agree with you.

[All-Russian Empire]

No,and it must never end

[Vallermoore]

There is no need for a monarchy in the modern world.

[Iskanistan]

Why?

All monarchs are bad.

(X) for doubt.

[Heloin]

All monarchs are bad.

(X) for doubt.

A monarch at best is totally useless and other people do their job instead. It is a title meant for people who think someone’s magic inbred blood makes them better suited to rulership instead of any actually skills in leadership or the choice of a community being governed.

[Ethel mermania]

(X) for doubt.

A monarch at best is totally useless and other people do their job instead. It is a title meant for people who think someone’s magic inbred blood makes them better suited to rulership instead of any actually skills in leadership or the choice of a community being governed.

It is still a pretty good gig if you can get it.

[Heloin]

A monarch at best is totally useless and other people do their job instead. It is a title meant for people who think someone’s magic inbred blood makes them better suited to rulership instead of any actually skills in leadership or the choice of a community being governed.

It is still a pretty good gig if you can get it.

I won’t deny being the King isn’t a good job if you can get it, that’s the whole reason behind the inbreding, keep that power in the family.

[Luziyca]

and in the very unlikely event that the constitution gets amended to get rid of the monarchy, I would probably go either way on this issue.

The constitution can't just be "amended" to get rid of the monarchy. A whole new constitution would have to be written, which ALL ten provinces and three territories would have to agree on, along with the federal government. Now given the political climate of Canada, how likely do you think it is going to be that any of that is even remotely possible? Quebec is barely Canadian, unless it happens to suit their current agenda. Alberta wants to pass an illegal "sovereignty" act, in which we can just ignore federal laws if we don't like them. Alberta and B.C. are still at war over a pipeline, which started with two premiers from the same fucking party. I could go on....

Hence the very unlikely event, for all the reasons you have mentioned.

Probably might be worth keeping the monarchy in place just to avoid dealing with reopening the constitution and all the questions contained therein.

[Tsardom of Alaska]

"The monarchy should stay because communism bad" 10/10 argument right there

[Czervenika]

There is no need for a monarchy in the modern world.

Hey, I wish I could be a billionaire too just for falling out of a magic womb

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

There is no need for a monarchy in the modern world.

Hey, I wish I could be a billionaire too just for falling out of a magic womb

That would be nice, but you'd never be able to go anywhere without security and people recognizing you. You'd have no private life.

[Fahran]

No, because Britons do not support the abolition of the monarchy. Support for His Majesty the King has also almost doubled since he ascended the throne. Over 63% of Britons expect Charles III to do a good job, 94% thought his first speech as King was good, and 73% thought he had provided good leadership since the passing of his mother the late Queen. Republican sentiment is lingering around 20% to 30%, and thus remains a minority position.

Hey, I wish I could be a billionaire too just for falling out of a magic womb

You're quite fortunate to possess the inheritance which, at present, has already been given to you as a result of the circumstances of your birth. That others may enjoy a more lofty inheritance is a matter of trivial consequence on its own.

[Fahran]

...Why? What's so special about them? What separates them in any meaningful way from anyone else? If being from some inbred family qualified you for leadership, the South would've won the Civil War.

The institution of the monarchy imparts on them an aura and gravitas that we have played witness to in real-time. For every remark about how the outpouring of grief makes Britain "a totally normal island" by snide republicans, they miss why Britons have behaved with such reverence and sorrow at the passing of the Queen, who represented, in many ways, a link to the traditions, history, and culture of the country that had been cultivated by their fathers and mothers, their grandfathers and grandmothers, and their great grandfathers and great grandmothers. Many cannot remember a time when she did not preside over the country. She was a constant, an anchor.

Charles III has become the next link in the chain stretching back to Alfred the Great, and the reverence that was once paid to his mother appears to have transferred to him. It helps that he's often a masterful speaker and appears to have genuine regard for issues that many consider important. I think a lot of the inability to understand why the monarchy, or any other tradition or institution, resonates so deeply with people stems from a lack of any genuine appreciation for the sacred and the magical things in the world that transcend the modern and stretch towards timelessness.

It's why venom is poured out against all boundaries and all ties to the past - even in places wholly foreign to those playing the vipers.

All monarchy should end, imo. Take it from a Canadian.

I'm a Canadian as well, and I believe it should stay. The Monarchy has existed since before Canada was even Canada, and our constitution is written around it. How the hell are we going to get rid of it, when we can't get Canada and Quebec to even agree on what "Canadian" is? As for the American's chiming in? You have absolutely no iron in the fire here. We didn't force you to get rid of a crim.... (erm President) now did we? Even when he decided it would be a good idea to I don't know... violate the Convention on Chemical Weapons and gas his own damn citizens.....

Some of us are insistent on remaking every country in our own image. Never mind that such a desire is the height of hubris.

[Free Algerstonia]

i think the british monarchy should end because the british monarchy attempted to destroy america several times in its history and i have zero doubt that prince harry is being used by the british monarchy in their next scheme to destroy america

[Kalivyah]

All monarchs are bad.

Replace that with "communist leaders", and I'd agree with you.

Please stop larping as a monarchist.

[Kalivyah]

...Why? What's so special about them? What separates them in any meaningful way from anyone else? If being from some inbred family qualified you for leadership, the South would've won the Civil War.

The institution of the monarchy imparts on them an aura and gravitas that we have played witness to in real-time. For every remark about how the outpouring of grief makes Britain "a totally normal island" by snide republicans, they miss why Britons have behaved with such reverence and sorrow at the passing of the Queen, who represented, in many ways, a link to the traditions, history, and culture of the country that had been cultivated by their fathers and mothers, their grandfathers and grandmothers, and their great grandfathers and great grandmothers. Many cannot remember a time when she did not preside over the country. She was a constant, an anchor.

Charles III has become the next link in the chain stretching back to Alfred the Great, and the reverence that was once paid to his mother appears to have transferred to him. It helps that he's often a masterful speaker and appears to have genuine regard for issues that many consider important. I think a lot of the inability to understand why the monarchy, or any other tradition or institution, resonates so deeply with people stems from a lack of any genuine appreciation for the sacred and the magical things in the world that transcend the modern and stretch towards timelessness.

It's why venom is poured out against all boundaries and all ties to the past - even in places wholly foreign to those playing the vipers.

I'm a Canadian as well, and I believe it should stay. The Monarchy has existed since before Canada was even Canada, and our constitution is written around it. How the hell are we going to get rid of it, when we can't get Canada and Quebec to even agree on what "Canadian" is? As for the American's chiming in? You have absolutely no iron in the fire here. We didn't force you to get rid of a crim.... (erm President) now did we? Even when he decided it would be a good idea to I don't know... violate the Convention on Chemical Weapons and gas his own damn citizens.....

Some of us are insistent on remaking every country in our own image. Never mind that such a desire is the height of hubris.

Don't care. Death to monarchies.

[Fahran]

i think the british monarchy should end because the british monarchy attempted to destroy america several times in its history and i have zero doubt that prince harry is being used by the british monarchy in their next scheme to destroy america

Harry Windsor, who I don't believe is in the line of succession anymore, doesn't even have clout among Brits and Canadians. How is he going to destroy America? Is Meghan gonna run for president while Harry stages a coup against his brother at some point in the next couple decades?

Don't care. Death to monarchies.

That's just, like, your opinion, my guy.

Please stop larping as a monarchist.

As a republican, communism needs to be allowed to rest in peace. No more political necromancy. Put the red flags away unless we're bringing trade unions back, and we can do that with the Stars and Stripes.

[Fahran]

I wonder if the same opinion would hold to say... the Gulf monarchies.

The Gulf Monarchies actually provide a degree of political stability in the absence of strong civilian institutions and have had a beneficial impact on policy on numerous occasions. As one can observe when we take a glance at Iraq, Yemen, or Egypt.

Beyond that, the anecdotes we get about Ibn Saud's life are unfathomably based. Man built a railroad to Riyadh with his own money because the government thought it was a bad idea and it actually helped to make Riyadh a major urban and financial center. He also gave a lot of money to charity, often after interacting with his subjects directly and seeing them in dire straits.

[The Aber]

Hey guys, remember how I said that I'd rather have stomach cancer than having to see another leftist in my field of view? Yeah, I still stick by that.

[Kalivyah]

I wonder if the same opinion would hold to say... the Gulf monarchies.

The Gulf Monarchies actually provide a degree of political stability in the absence of strong civilian institutions and have had a beneficial impact on policy on numerous occasions. As one can observe when we take a glance at Iraq, Yemen, or Egypt.

Beyond that, the anecdotes we get about Ibn Saud's life are unfathomably based. Man built a railroad to Riyadh with his own money because the government thought it was a bad idea and it actually helped to make Riyadh a major urban and financial center. He also gave a lot of money to charity, often after interacting with his subjects directly and seeing them in dire straits.

I'm going mentally insane.

[Kalivyah]

Hey guys, remember how I said that I'd rather have stomach cancer than having to see another leftist in my field of view? Yeah, I still stick by that.

"Nooo!!!! People are complaining and rising up about problems which affect billions of people!!! Stop it!! GRRRR!!!"