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Imperial Samiller
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Postby Imperial Samiller » Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:27 pm

China SCR wrote:
Imperial Samiller wrote:If he was 17, he would have to have been less than 1 year old when he founded his nation.

fine, he's an adult male who failed all his classes and now is a british fascist

The british fascists ceased to be a force of any significance in 1940.

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Postby Torrocca » Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:27 pm

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Necroghastia wrote:lol do you think people say chuckie aint a leftist because they don't like him
do you *really* think that

Lol no. I think he is a leftist because he supports left wing policies, such as green energy among others.


That doesn't magically make a monarch leftist lmfaaaooooo

In fact I'm fairly certain simply being a monarch excludes him from ever being a so-called leftist
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Postby China SCR » Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:30 pm

Imperial Samiller wrote:
China SCR wrote:fine, he's an adult male who failed all his classes and now is a british fascist

The british fascists ceased to be a force of any significance in 1940.

by that i meant he is a british nationalist
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Postby China SCR » Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:31 pm

btw i am quitting you right-wing jerks argue about some dumb queen
just know that My opinion is that i hate monarchism
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Postby Imperial Samiller » Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:32 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Imperial Samiller wrote:Lol no. I think he is a leftist because he supports left wing policies, such as green energy among others.


That doesn't magically make a monarch leftist lmfaaaooooo

In fact I'm fairly certain simply being a monarch excludes him from ever being a so-called leftist

Just for the record, I am using the term "leftist" to include any left wing policy or person, because its not a loaded term.

Besides, do you want more examples of left wing policies hes supports? Hows about the wide verity of green politics he supports.

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:32 pm

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Sordhau wrote:Absolutely wild how people simp for an old man whose never worked a day in his life just because he belongs to a rich family.

>never worked a day in his life
>served in the Royal Navy for five years
>carries out several hundred engagements each year
>"hardest working member of the royal family"
>revived offices designed to promote Celtic culture
>wrote the Cabinet about global warming and deprivation
>republicans label him a "meddling prince"
>co-author of over twenty books
>presides over several charities and projects

Don't forget "urban planner".
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Postby Ladinacem Andia » Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:33 pm

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Postby Torrocca » Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:33 pm

Imperial Samiller wrote:
Torrocca wrote:
That doesn't magically make a monarch leftist lmfaaaooooo

In fact I'm fairly certain simply being a monarch excludes him from ever being a so-called leftist

Just for the record, I am using the term "leftist" to include any left wing policy or person, because its not a loaded term.

Besides, do you want more examples of left wing policies hes supports? Hows about the wide verity of green politics he supports.


Your only example has been green policies lmao, and even then that's still not justification for keeping a monarchy lol
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Postby El Lazaro » Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:33 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Torrocca wrote:literally nobody's saying replace the monarchy with Truss rulership lmao

I mean
That's the practical effect of abolishing the monarchy tomorrow lmao
Or did you think we were gonna get a Chairman of the Presidium of England in the aftermath?

There can still be a ceremonial head of state. Normally, you’d elect a president, but I think there should be a temporary Supreme Leader selected by a lottery. It would be more entertaining than the British tabloid “journalism” about some 7th cousin of a duke ignoring paparazzi.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:35 pm

Imperial Samiller wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Both the monarchy in general and the new king in specific are, apparently, approved of by the majority of Britons.

So then its just a bunch of crybabies screaming at the sky? I will admit that my understanding of British politics is limited, but it was my understanding that the LEFT didn't like the monarchy.

Correct, the left does not like the British monarchy, nor monarchy in general. It is not, as you were proposing, a matter of leftists trying to distance themselves from an unpopular leftist king, but a matter of the left being ideologically opposed to all kings, regardless of whether they support green energy. And further, Charles is just not a leftist.
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Postby Imperial Samiller » Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:35 pm

Torrocca wrote:
Imperial Samiller wrote:Just for the record, I am using the term "leftist" to include any left wing policy or person, because its not a loaded term.

Besides, do you want more examples of left wing policies hes supports? Hows about the wide verity of green politics he supports.


Your only example has been green policies lmao, and even then that's still not justification for keeping a monarchy lol

I dont really care if you keep the monarchy or not.
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Postby Imperial Samiller » Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:36 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Imperial Samiller wrote:So then its just a bunch of crybabies screaming at the sky? I will admit that my understanding of British politics is limited, but it was my understanding that the LEFT didn't like the monarchy.

Correct, the left does not like the British monarchy, nor monarchy in general. It is not, as you were proposing, a matter of leftists trying to distance themselves from an unpopular leftist king, but a matter of the left being ideologically opposed to all kings, regardless of whether they support green energy. And further, Charles is just not a leftist.

Ok, I stand corrected.

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Postby Kalivyah » Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:21 pm

China SCR wrote:btw i am quitting you right-wing jerks argue about some dumb queen
just know that My opinion is that i hate monarchism

You are either an illiterate 35 year old or some random kid. We do not claim you.
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Postby Jencilland » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:21 pm

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Jencilland wrote:lol

you can't slander socialists because they are gigachads

I'm not slandering. :( Socialist countries are chads

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:22 pm

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China SCR wrote:you can't slander socialists because they are gigachads

I'm not slandering. :( Socialist countries are chads

chads at fucking up their agricultural environment for centuries to come you mean
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Postby Fahran » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:50 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Jencilland wrote:I'm not slandering. :( Socialist countries are chads

chads at fucking up their agricultural environment for centuries to come you mean

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Postby Free Algerstonia » Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:52 pm

China SCR wrote:btw i am quitting you right-wing jerks argue about some dumb queen
just know that My opinion is that i hate monarchism

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Postby Chingis » Thu Sep 22, 2022 8:39 pm

China SCR wrote:LMAO
i am a 35-year old grown man
you're a dumb 17-year old who failed all his classes and joined the british fascist team lol

China SCR wrote:fine, he's an adult male who failed all his classes and now is a british fascist

China SCR wrote:btw i am quitting you right-wing jerks argue about some dumb queen
just know that My opinion is that i hate monarchism

China SCR wrote:you're a dumb grown man (according to the law) who failed all his classes and joined the british fascist team lol

China SCR wrote:L M A O
you're such an idiot

China SCR wrote:WHY WHY WHY WHY???????
WHY ARE THEY STILLL MONARCHIES IN THE WORLD?????
EXECUTE ALL ROYAL FAMILIES AND MAKE A COMMUNIST REVOLUTION!
i live in japan, i support the end of the british monarchy, i hate monarchism and i am a big lenin and trosky fan
But not all royal families should be murdered, they are just people


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Postby Corrian » Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:28 pm

Yes, all Monarchies should die off.
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Postby Michel Meilleur » Fri Sep 23, 2022 5:22 am

Imperial Samiller wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Green energy is not a left wing policy. Climate change denial is a very popular position on the right, but that doesn't make green energy leftist.

I have to respectfully disagree, because no right wing party (of any significance) supports green energy.

I mean, I dunno for the Brits but in Europe, nationalist parties usually are big proponents of the nuclear and it's the greenest energy around.

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Postby Armeattla » Fri Sep 23, 2022 5:49 am

Corrian wrote:Yes, all Monarchies should die off.

The only reasonable option.
the other is drawing a crossh- wait I think that's illegal
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Postby Ethikia » Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:01 am

Michel Meilleur wrote:
Imperial Samiller wrote:I have to respectfully disagree, because no right wing party (of any significance) supports green energy.

I mean, I dunno for the Brits but in Europe, nationalist parties usually are big proponents of the nuclear and it's the greenest energy around.


The combination of Big Oil sponsored right wing climate change denial, Bezos-Musk laissez-faire greenwashing and left wing "activism" that only means blocking nuclear and sitting on the road is why I'm really pessimistic about the climate crisis. Even the "good guys" solution is destroying ecosystems to mine more lithium and copper than ever.

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Postby Fortisbellator » Fri Oct 28, 2022 5:39 pm

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Adamede wrote:Like?

Maybe one of the billion German royal families

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Postby Teletubieland » Fri Oct 28, 2022 5:45 pm

You know what happens when you don't have a monarchy? You have a president that half the country hates and who is treated like a king anyway. The huge advantage of a monarch is that they are a unifying figure. Which is why a long list of countries around the world, including Spain, the Netherlands, Denmark, Belgium, Sweden, Norway and Japan still have a monarchy (in addition to the fact that the British monarch is actually king of basically every English speaking country bar the US and Ireland). Unity or division, that's the choice.
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Postby Corta » Fri Oct 28, 2022 5:56 pm

Teletubieland wrote:You know what happens when you don't have a monarchy? You have a president that half the country hates and who is treated like a king anyway. The huge advantage of a monarch is that they are a unifying figure. Which is why a long list of countries around the world, including Spain, the Netherlands, Denmark, Belgium, Sweden, Norway and Japan still have a monarchy (in addition to the fact that the British monarch is actually king of basically every English speaking country bar the US and Ireland). Unity or division, that's the choice.


You know what happens even when you have a monarchy? You have a country called the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland being an absolute political hellhole and its citizens simply requesting for things to become normal again.

Oh, yeah. You also have farmers revolting in the Netherlands, Canadians absolutely hating certain policies in their country, and Norway, which has freedom of speech, planning to arrest people for using said freedom of speech.

Meanwhile, you have a country like the United States of America being (in most places) an absolutely normal place to live. What does America hate? Monarchy. What does America not have, which is why it's so great? A monarchy. This allows common people to give politicians their voice, which steers the USA in the right track.

In summary, monarchy, if it doesn't have any effect on a country, only damages a country.
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