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Postby Fahran » Wed Sep 21, 2022 7:48 pm

Deblar wrote:
Fahran wrote:Welp. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't force it to drink.

Have fun with your racism, I guess.

Clearly you've never drowned a horse before

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Postby Diarcesia » Wed Sep 21, 2022 9:02 pm

Old Tyrannia wrote:The only thing that should end is the usurpation of royal authority by demagogues. Supreme executive power should be restored to the King, and Parliament restricted to its traditional legislative functions.

That's gonna make ending the British monarchy a speedrun.

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Postby Afrikan Staat » Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:29 am

The year is 2029. Liz Truss, head of state and of government, ruling unchecked, has blown up the entirety of England and proclaimed herself God of the Abaddon of St. James. The libs despaired; for in their moment of hubris, they had ditched the King, of whom he is the last man capable of standing between Great Britain and eternal darkness.

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Postby Latorik » Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:41 am

The Aber wrote:It makes me giggle you know. Virtually every communist/socialist regime barely lasted a century (failing due to their "dear leaders' own ignorance and insolence), but the monarchies (while yes, we had some pretty fucked-up kings), especially Britians', lasted almost a millennia. And the leftists hate that, how one of the very things they despise lasted longer than any leftist regime. It's envy, jealousy. The same type that has today's "revolutionaries" crying "Eat the Rich", not because of any "exploitation", but because many of those millionaires and billionaires worked their asses off to gain their wealth (making more cash from their inventions and economic knowledge than any leftist "liberator" on Earth), while the communist leaders needed some gullible twits to do their dirty work for them.

Yes, I'm quite aware of some of the fucked-up shit some monarchies do, but when it comes to being dicks to the people who look up to you, the Left needs to have an electoral on that because they're VERY good at giving the bird to their supporters.

You are aware monarchies and dynastic succession tended to be extremely superfluous and racked with nepotism and pretty regular periods of strife and civil war, right?

There's a reason there has been eight separate houses across British history that have declared themselves the 'royal family' at some time or another

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Postby Torrocca » Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:47 am

Latorik wrote:
The Aber wrote:It makes me giggle you know. Virtually every communist/socialist regime barely lasted a century (failing due to their "dear leaders' own ignorance and insolence), but the monarchies (while yes, we had some pretty fucked-up kings), especially Britians', lasted almost a millennia. And the leftists hate that, how one of the very things they despise lasted longer than any leftist regime. It's envy, jealousy. The same type that has today's "revolutionaries" crying "Eat the Rich", not because of any "exploitation", but because many of those millionaires and billionaires worked their asses off to gain their wealth (making more cash from their inventions and economic knowledge than any leftist "liberator" on Earth), while the communist leaders needed some gullible twits to do their dirty work for them.

Yes, I'm quite aware of some of the fucked-up shit some monarchies do, but when it comes to being dicks to the people who look up to you, the Left needs to have an electoral on that because they're VERY good at giving the bird to their supporters.

You are aware monarchies and dynastic succession tended to be extremely superfluous and racked with nepotism and pretty regular periods of strife and civil war, right?

There's a reason there has been eight separate houses across British history that have declared themselves the 'royal family' at some time or another


Chopping off the last bastard king's head to become a new bastard king doesn't count as regime change.

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Postby Fahran » Thu Sep 22, 2022 10:15 am

Afrikan Staat wrote:The year is 2029. Liz Truss, head of state and of government, ruling unchecked, has blown up the entirety of England and proclaimed herself God of the Abaddon of St. James. The libs despaired; for in their moment of hubris, they had ditched the King, of whom he is the last man capable of standing between Great Britain and eternal darkness.

Charles III fighting against republican tyranny in an advanced mech is an acceptable result of the abolition of the monarchy. One might even say the only acceptable result.

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Postby Sordhau » Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:40 am

Afrikan Staat wrote:The year is 2029. Liz Truss, head of state and of government, ruling unchecked, has blown up the entirety of England and proclaimed herself God of the Abaddon of St. James. The libs despaired; for in their moment of hubris, they had ditched the King, of whom he is the last man capable of standing between Great Britain and eternal darkness.


Absolutely wild how people simp for an old man whose never worked a day in his life just because he belongs to a rich family.
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Postby Torrocca » Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:47 am

Sordhau wrote:
Afrikan Staat wrote:The year is 2029. Liz Truss, head of state and of government, ruling unchecked, has blown up the entirety of England and proclaimed herself God of the Abaddon of St. James. The libs despaired; for in their moment of hubris, they had ditched the King, of whom he is the last man capable of standing between Great Britain and eternal darkness.


Absolutely wild how people simp for an old man whose never worked a day in his life just because he belongs to a rich family.


And doubly-so how their whole argument is "if you hate Chuck clearly you like Truss!!1!"

I mean, besides the fact that she obviously murdered Lizzie and thus we should Truss in the PlanTM, literally nobody's saying replace the monarchy with Truss rulership lmao
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Postby Sordhau » Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:50 am

Torrocca wrote:
Sordhau wrote:
Absolutely wild how people simp for an old man whose never worked a day in his life just because he belongs to a rich family.


And doubly-so how their whole argument is "if you hate Chuck clearly you like Truss!!1!"

I mean, besides the fact that she obviously murdered Lizzie and thus we should Truss in the PlanTM, literally nobody's saying replace the monarchy with Truss rulership lmao


>"Oooh but what about LIZ TRUSS!"
>she's already PM
>there is no higher position; she's literally at the top
>abolishing the monarchy doesn't change that
>she'll be gone in like five years or less
>Charles literally can't do shit about her
>if you reelect her it's your own fault tbh
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Postby Imperial Samiller » Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:58 am

The monarchy actually makes money for the UK, so if they end the monarchy, taxes will be raised in the UK (slightly, but still)

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:58 am

Obviously if the monarchy was abolished then the evil Jeremy "Jihadi Jez" Corbyn would lead his armies of IRA and Hezbollah terrorists in a brutal coup and transform Britain into a Marxist-Leninist-anarchist commune/jam farm which he would rule with an iron fist. Only the divine power of King Charles can protect the normal and innocent Britons from this horrible fate.
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Postby El Lazaro » Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:01 pm

Ifreann wrote:Obviously if the monarchy was abolished then the evil Jeremy "Jihadi Jez" Corbyn would lead his armies of IRA and Hezbollah terrorists in a brutal coup and transform Britain into a Marxist-Leninist-anarchist commune/jam farm which he would rule with an iron fist. Only the divine power of King Charles can protect the normal and innocent Britons from this horrible fate.

England deserves it.

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Postby Imperial Samiller » Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:03 pm

Charles seems like a leftist anyway, so its weird that people on the left are so mad at him.

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Postby Ifreann » Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:05 pm

Imperial Samiller wrote:Charles seems like a leftist anyway, so its weird that people on the left are so mad at him.

Charles is not remotely a leftist.
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Postby Jencilland » Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:05 pm

I honestly don't care. I feels like the monarch has no power but they are often looked up to (especially Queen Elizabeth II)

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:05 pm

Torrocca wrote:literally nobody's saying replace the monarchy with Truss rulership lmao

I mean
That's the practical effect of abolishing the monarchy tomorrow lmao
Or did you think we were gonna get a Chairman of the Presidium of England in the aftermath?
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Postby Imperial Samiller » Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:07 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Imperial Samiller wrote:Charles seems like a leftist anyway, so its weird that people on the left are so mad at him.

Charles is not remotely a leftist.

Emphasis on seems my guy.

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Postby China SCR » Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:08 pm

Jewish Underground State wrote:Given that Anti Monarchy protests have started against King Charles The III this raises the question, should the british monarchy be brought down. There have been talks about this for years as the monarchy is basically using tax payer money on their fancy mansions and other fancy projects. However some people claim the monarchy is important to british culture and national identity and that "Britain has no future". So should the british monarchy end or will it continue on after Queen Elizabeth's passing.

To me either choice means nothing. Even if the monarchy gets brought down they will still be rich aristocrats and have a huge influence on british culture.

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(Side note i'm not British I'm American so sorry if I messed up any details.)

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EXECUTE ALL ROYAL FAMILIES AND MAKE A COMMUNIST REVOLUTION!
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Postby Jencilland » Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:08 pm

I think King Charles will make a lot more remarks and statements than Queen Elizabeth

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Postby Torrocca » Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:09 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Torrocca wrote:literally nobody's saying replace the monarchy with Truss rulership lmao

I mean
That's the practical effect of abolishing the monarchy tomorrow lmao
Or did you think we were gonna get a Chairman of the Presidium of England in the aftermath?


She can either get voted out on account of England becoming much more democratic, or, if the monarchy magically got abolished tomorrow, she can get just as magically yeeted with it lmfao

She's PM anyways so this gripe about her being in charge with or without a monarchy is asinine
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Postby China SCR » Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:09 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Torrocca wrote:literally nobody's saying replace the monarchy with Truss rulership lmao

I mean
That's the practical effect of abolishing the monarchy tomorrow lmao
Or did you think we were gonna get a Chairman of the Presidium of England in the aftermath?

I would like if england became a republic or even better A SOCIALIST UTOPIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Postby Jencilland » Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:09 pm

China SCR wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:I mean
That's the practical effect of abolishing the monarchy tomorrow lmao
Or did you think we were gonna get a Chairman of the Presidium of England in the aftermath?

I would like if england became a republic or even better A SOCIALIST UTOPIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol

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Postby Torrocca » Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:10 pm

Ifreann wrote:Obviously if the monarchy was abolished then the evil Jeremy "Jihadi Jez" Corbyn would lead his armies of IRA and Hezbollah terrorists in a brutal coup and transform Britain into a Marxist-Leninist-anarchist commune/jam farm which he would rule with an iron fist. Only the divine power of King Charles can protect the normal and innocent Britons from this horrible fate.


Hello, based department?!?!?!

That's not going far enough, though, without England being cartoonishly cut off from Wales and Scotland ala Bugs Bunny and a handsaw and then sunk into the stretch of water formerly known as the English Channel, of course.

You know, because evil commie schemery or something. Gotta fit the bill with whacky Saturday morning cartoon shit, after all.
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Postby China SCR » Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:12 pm

Jencilland wrote:
China SCR wrote:I would like if england became a republic or even better A SOCIALIST UTOPIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol

dude, i am a socialist
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Postby China SCR » Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:12 pm

Jencilland wrote:
China SCR wrote:I would like if england became a republic or even better A SOCIALIST UTOPIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol

you can't slander socialists because they are gigachads
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