Elizabeth II / Charles III megathread

[Michel Meilleur]

No, no it is not.

Name one right-wing Republican in the UK

Cromwell. ;^)

[Ethel mermania]

As sir Paul said

Her Majesty is a pretty nice girl
But she doesn't have a lot to say
Her Majesty is a pretty nice girl
But she changes from day to day

I wanna tell her that I love her a lot
But I gotta get a belly full of wine
Her Majesty is a pretty nice girl
Someday I'm gonna make her mine, oh yeah
Someday I'm gonna make her mine

[Port Caverton]

Strange for an American to think that abolishing the monarchy is far left.

We'll see.

It is far left in terms of British politics. I’m going to give an educated guess and say that you had family members in the IRA

He's too much of a lib for that

[The United Penguin Commonwealth]

"The funny thing about these republicans," he says, "is how they support the Tories and Brexit"

Perhaps give that one another think.

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I'm not demanding anything.

Well, you want the monarchy to be abolished but most Britains support it.

younger British people are leaning increasingly towards republicanism

[Celritannia]

No, no it is not.

Name one right-wing Republican in the UK

Adam Tomkins, former Member of the Scottish Parliament for the Scottish branch of the Conservative Party.

Also, your use of "far left" is also incorrect, as there are liberal, and centre-left politicians in the UK who support the country becoming a republic.

[Ifreann]

Strange for an American to think that abolishing the monarchy is far left.

We'll see.

It is far left in terms of British politics. I’m going to give an educated guess and say that you had family members in the IRA

What education do you imagine you have to make any kind of guess about members of my family? You are absolutely ignorant about my family. You do not know even one thing about them. So upon what education are you basing this accusation that they were members of a terrorist organisation?

[Prima Scriptura]

It is far left in terms of British politics. I’m going to give an educated guess and say that you had family members in the IRA

What education do you imagine you have to make any kind of guess about members of my family? You are absolutely ignorant about my family. You do not know even one thing about them. So upon what education are you basing this accusation that they were members of a terrorist organisation?

My guess is based that on the fact of you want the British monarchy being abolished. And I apologize for making that statement. It was totally out of line of me.

[Michel Meilleur]

What education do you imagine you have to make any kind of guess about members of my family? You are absolutely ignorant about my family. You do not know even one thing about them. So upon what education are you basing this accusation that they were members of a terrorist organisation?

My guess is based that on the fact of you want the British monarchy being abolished.

Damn bro, is everyone opposed to Monarchism part of terrorist/independentists organizations in your eyes? Or just the damn dirty paddies ?

[Celritannia]

What education do you imagine you have to make any kind of guess about members of my family? You are absolutely ignorant about my family. You do not know even one thing about them. So upon what education are you basing this accusation that they were members of a terrorist organisation?

My guess is based that on the fact of you want the British monarchy being abolished. And I apologize for making that statement. It was totally out of line of me.

So because someone wants to abolish the Monarchy, they are a terrorist?
People who advocate for the removal of the Monarchy won't stop members of the Windsor family from running in an election for President of Britain.

[Ifreann]

What education do you imagine you have to make any kind of guess about members of my family? You are absolutely ignorant about my family. You do not know even one thing about them. So upon what education are you basing this accusation that they were members of a terrorist organisation?

My guess is based that on the fact of you want the British monarchy being abolished.

Do you hear how utterly ludicrous that sounds? Not only the absurdity of linking opposition to monarchism to the IRA, a terrorist organisation that had nothing to do with abolishing the monarchy, but to suggest that since I oppose the monarchy then some member of my family, some unspecified other person, is a member of that organisation. As if my political opinions could tell you about my third cousin, twice removed, if that person even exists.

And I apologize for making that statement. It was totally out of line of me.

Yes, it was.

[Thermodolia]

For now.

You can put your far left pipe dreams in the bin. The monarchy of the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland is going to be around for a while. Most of the Commonwealth will still recognize the monarch as head of state for some time as well.

Realistically I see only New Zealand, Bahamas, Canada, Grenada, and the UK/Scotland recognizing the monarchy in the next five years

[The Blaatschapen]

Always great to have this outburst of people who wants the likes of Liz Truss, Boris Johnson, Priti Patel & co as president...

Right?

The funny thing about these republicans is that they whine so much about the royal family being wealthy when everyone else is struggling, but the whole reason it's hard for people to pay the bills these days is because of people they elected. Policies they enabled by voting in loons. The royal family has nothing to do with it. Elizabeth and Charles didn't lobby for Brexit, the people chose their own present burdens.

This is assuming that we're part of the 52%

I'm not. Nice try though.

[Vistulange]

You can put your far left pipe dreams in the bin. The monarchy of the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland is going to be around for a while. Most of the Commonwealth will still recognize the monarch as head of state for some time as well.

Realistically I see only New Zealand, Bahamas, Canada, Grenada, and the UK/Scotland recognizing the monarchy in the next five years

New Zealand might be in doubt as well, though admittedly far less likely than Australia.

[The Nihilistic view]

Right?

The funny thing about these republicans is that they whine so much about the royal family being wealthy when everyone else is struggling, but the whole reason it's hard for people to pay the bills these days is because of people they elected. Policies they enabled by voting in loons. The royal family has nothing to do with it. Elizabeth and Charles didn't lobby for Brexit, the people chose their own present burdens.

This is assuming that we're part of the 52%

I'm not. Nice try though.

I mean you're not part of that 100% but hey

[Prima Scriptura]

Realistically I see only New Zealand, Bahamas, Canada, Grenada, and the UK/Scotland recognizing the monarchy in the next five years

New Zealand might be in doubt as well, though admittedly far less likely than Australia.

I was under the impression that support for the monarchy was pretty strong in Australia, but less so in New Zealand.

[Rusozak]

New Zealand might be in doubt as well, though admittedly far less likely than Australia.

I was under the impression that support for the monarchy was pretty strong in Australia, but less so in New Zealand.

Is there a significant impact of it? I've never fully understood the relationship between the crown and commonwealth states. Is it a symbolic gesture, severing that last tie of British colonialism, or does the crown actually have an important role in government?

[Prima Scriptura]

I was under the impression that support for the monarchy was pretty strong in Australia, but less so in New Zealand.

Is there a significant impact of it? I've never fully understood the relationship between the crown and commonwealth states. Is it a symbolic gesture, severing that last tie of British colonialism, or does the crown actually have an important role in government?

Australia and New Zealand have a strong as a home rule government can possibly have. I seen that support for republicanism in Australia and New Zealand has to do more with past racist atrocities committed by the crown. Native populations in those countries are gaining more and more political power

[Thermodolia]

Realistically I see only New Zealand, Bahamas, Canada, Grenada, and the UK/Scotland recognizing the monarchy in the next five years

New Zealand might be in doubt as well, though admittedly far less likely than Australia.

The only thing I see preventing New Zealand from ditching the monarchy is the support of the Māori as they support the monarchy by some 80%

[Prima Scriptura]

New Zealand might be in doubt as well, though admittedly far less likely than Australia.

The only thing I see preventing New Zealand from ditching the monarchy is the support of the Māori as they support the monarchy by some 80%

Really?! That is surprising.

[Thermodolia]

Is there a significant impact of it? I've never fully understood the relationship between the crown and commonwealth states. Is it a symbolic gesture, severing that last tie of British colonialism, or does the crown actually have an important role in government?

Australia and New Zealand have a strong as a home rule government can possibly have. I seen that support for republicanism in Australia and New Zealand has to do more with past racist atrocities committed by the crown. Native populations in those countries are gaining more and more political power

The indigenous people gaining more power would actually mean the monarchy would be kept not ditched. Many indigenous people strongly support the monarchy in New Zealand and Canada and most likely Australia too.

New Zealand might be in doubt as well, though admittedly far less likely than Australia.

I was under the impression that support for the monarchy was pretty strong in Australia, but less so in New Zealand.

Support for the monarchy is at 30% while in New Zealand support is at 44%. It’s clear that the monarchy is much more liked in New Zealand than Australia.

And this is shown especially in that several members of both major Australian political parties are republicans and the current PM even has a minister for the republic, who’s job it is to guide Australia to becoming a republic.

[Thermodolia]

The only thing I see preventing New Zealand from ditching the monarchy is the support of the Māori as they support the monarchy by some 80%

Really?! That is surprising.

Not really. All treaties with the indigenous people are held through the crown not the government. And many Māori are concerned that the government might not honor those treaties while at current they have to or get smacked down by the monarch

[Shrillland]

Australia and New Zealand have a strong as a home rule government can possibly have. I seen that support for republicanism in Australia and New Zealand has to do more with past racist atrocities committed by the crown. Native populations in those countries are gaining more and more political power

The indigenous people gaining more power would actually mean the monarchy would be kept not ditched. Many indigenous people strongly support the monarchy in New Zealand and Canada and most likely Australia too.

I was under the impression that support for the monarchy was pretty strong in Australia, but less so in New Zealand.

Support for the monarchy is at 30% while in New Zealand support is at 44%. It’s clear that the monarchy is much more liked in New Zealand than Australia.

And this is shown especially in that several members of both major Australian political parties are republicans and the current PM even has a minister for the republic, who’s job it is to guide Australia to becoming a republic.

Not in Australia. Unlike the other realms, Australian governments pre- and post-confederation never actually negotiated or signed any treaties with the Aboriginal peoples. Many didn't even see them as separate nations, so their First Nations have a lot less to lose and a lot more to gain by an Australian Republic.

[Thermodolia]

You can put your far left pipe dreams in the bin. The monarchy of the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland is going to be around for a while. Most of the Commonwealth will still recognize the monarch as head of state for some time as well.

Realistically I see only New Zealand, Bahamas, Canada, Grenada, and the UK/Scotland recognizing the monarchy in the next five years

Seems I might have been wrong about the Bahamas, as the PM has said that a republican referendum is on the table

[Thermodolia]

The indigenous people gaining more power would actually mean the monarchy would be kept not ditched. Many indigenous people strongly support the monarchy in New Zealand and Canada and most likely Australia too.


Support for the monarchy is at 30% while in New Zealand support is at 44%. It’s clear that the monarchy is much more liked in New Zealand than Australia.

And this is shown especially in that several members of both major Australian political parties are republicans and the current PM even has a minister for the republic, who’s job it is to guide Australia to becoming a republic.

Not in Australia. Unlike the other realms, Australian governments pre- and post-confederation never actually negotiated or signed any treaties with the Aboriginal peoples. Many didn't even see them as separate nations, so their First Nations have a lot less to lose and a lot more to gain by an Australian Republic.

Interesting. I didn’t know that. In that case Australia will more than likely become a Republic in the near term

[Lodestara]

Rest In Peace