Elizabeth II / Charles III megathread

[Celritannia]

I liked the first speech by King Charles III that broadcast a few hours ago.

I did too.

[Alcala-Cordel]

There IS an official author of God Save the King!

The song was originally French, and was composed by Louis XIV´s mistress, when he was feeling under the weather.

"Dieu, sauve notre roi"

Fitting anthem, for Charles III...

The one the Sex Pistols wrote fits a little better imo, even if the gender's wrong now

[The New California Republic]

I liked the first speech by King Charles III that broadcast a few hours ago.

I did too.

I mean between Charles and William as King I'd have preferred William, but that speech has made that opinion a bit less absolute.

[China SCR]

The Queen is dead.

Long live the King.


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Buckingham Palace has issued a statement reading "Following further evaluation this morning, the Queen's doctors are concerned for Her Majesty's health and have recommended she remain under medical supervision".

Prince Charles has travelled to his mother's bedside at her summer home in Balmoral, Scotland. Prince William, Princess Anne, and other senior royals are also known to be making the trip.

The Speaker of the House of Commons has interrupted debate so that the House can offer its thoughts and prayers.

New Prime Minister Liz Truss has issued a statement reading "My thoughts - and the thoughts of people across our United Kingdom - are with Her Majesty The Queen and her family at this time"

So the United Kingdom is currently bracing itself for the likelihood that we're about to lose our longest-serving monarch.

Opinions on this will no doubt differ, depending on whether individuals are monarchists, republicans, agnostic about monarchy, or from a country where the Queen remains head of state. This is a thread where you can discuss all of the issues arising - but remember to keep that discussion within the site rules, and if the Queen does die, remember that the site moderation team will likely be strict in applying those rules, as we are with the death of any prominent public figure.

she trolled us all that she is immortal

:|

[Prima Scriptura]

I liked the first speech by King Charles III that broadcast a few hours ago.

I did too. I wonder if his coronation will take place this year. I don’t think it will

[Prima Scriptura]

I liked the first speech by King Charles III that broadcast a few hours ago.

I did too.

Aren’t you a Republican(UK)

[Ifreann]

Always great to have this outburst of people who wants the likes of Liz Truss, Boris Johnson, Priti Patel & co as president...

Right?

The funny thing about these republicans is that they whine so much about the royal family being wealthy when everyone else is struggling, but the whole reason it's hard for people to pay the bills these days is because of people they elected. Policies they enabled by voting in loons. The royal family has nothing to do with it. Elizabeth and Charles didn't lobby for Brexit, the people chose their own present burdens.

"The funny thing about these republicans," he says, "is how they support the Tories and Brexit"

Perhaps give that one another think.

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Give it time.

That isn’t your decision. Supporting a United Ireland is one thing but demanding that British citizens abolish a monarchy they largely support is another thing

I'm not demanding anything.

[Michel Meilleur]

Again, that's not true.

I haven't bothered because it's a fucking meme that's not worth wasting time on addressing.

Or, maybe, American conceptions of government aren't the only ones that exist and have any historical and political weight. For that matter, American conceptions of constitutional government aren't even the first form of constitutional government in the first place considering British constitutionalism predates it by centuries.

It is. It really is. Look at Harry, especially in Irak. Fellow soldiers ended up hating his guts, especially after he quickly left the army because he still wasn't doted on enough to his tastes.

In other words, once more, peoples deserve special treatments, up to the "right" to rule an entire country, for giving themselves the trouble of being born because "reasons" . Yeah, you're right, it's indeed a fucking meme not worth addressing to believe in this.

I ain't American mate, tho. French, Italian, Spanish, Russians, etc, etc, etc, all of us agree on the simple fact that a constitution needs to be written to have any worth. Calling what the English have a constitution is an abuse of the term, to be quite honest.

[The Alma Mater]

Yeah, that's not true. The Royals give plenty back, and put themselves in service to the country through the military and similar things. So no, they're not just sitting and collecting money.

But then again you didn't even know Britain had a constitution so why am I surprised you don't know anything about the royal family either.

They give plenty [unspecified] back!

They own land. Loads and loads and loads of land. They donate the profits of those lands to the state - and those proceeds are significantly higher than the amount they get back.

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

There IS an official author of God Save the King!

The song was originally French, and was composed by Louis XIV´s mistress, when he was feeling under the weather.

"Dieu, sauve notre roi"

Fitting anthem, for Charles III...

So, in other words, the Americans borrowed the tune from an English song that was borrowed from the French.

Sounds about right.

[Ifreann]

They give plenty [unspecified] back!

They own land. Loads and loads and loads of land. They donate the profits of those lands to the state - and those proceeds are significantly higher than the amount they get back.

We may wish to consider that the land in question does not require royalty to be useful.

[Michel Meilleur]

There IS an official author of God Save the King!

The song was originally French, and was composed by Louis XIV´s mistress, when he was feeling under the weather.

"Dieu, sauve notre roi"

Fitting anthem, for Charles III...

So, in other words, the Americans borrowed the tune from an English song that was borrowed from the French.

Sounds about right.

It was not composed by his mistress (she was already her wife by this point), she commissioned others to make it to, as mentioned earlier, celebrate the successful surgery on his anal fistula. The composer of the song was Lully (who if you enjoy theater you might know since he composed a lot of the musics played in the most famous plays at the time) and it was a nun, Madame de Brinon, who wrote the lyrics.

[The House of Hamid]

So...republic when?

[Vikanias]

Now I’m going to save all my Queen Elizabeth bank notes and sell them for thousands when I’m 50

[Ifreann]

Now I’m going to save all my Queen Elizabeth bank notes and sell them for thousands when I’m 50

Get about twenty £50s and you'll be well on your way to making £1,000.

[Senkaku]

They give plenty [unspecified] back!

They own land. Loads and loads and loads of land. They donate the profits of those lands to the state - and those proceeds are significantly higher than the amount they get back.

Ok so they aren’t as rich as they could be if they exploited their vast landholdings to the fullest possible extent rather than letting the state basically manage them while living off the dole? Has anyone brought up the offshore bank accounts and Lizzy’s lobbying over secrecy laws lol

[San Lumen]

I liked the first speech by King Charles III that broadcast a few hours ago.

So did I. I watched it live on CNN.

[Prima Scriptura]

Right?

The funny thing about these republicans is that they whine so much about the royal family being wealthy when everyone else is struggling, but the whole reason it's hard for people to pay the bills these days is because of people they elected. Policies they enabled by voting in loons. The royal family has nothing to do with it. Elizabeth and Charles didn't lobby for Brexit, the people chose their own present burdens.

"The funny thing about these republicans," he says, "is how they support the Tories and Brexit"

Perhaps give that one another think.

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That isn’t your decision. Supporting a United Ireland is one thing but demanding that British citizens abolish a monarchy they largely support is another thing

I'm not demanding anything.

Well, you want the monarchy to be abolished but most Britains support it.

[Ifreann]

"The funny thing about these republicans," he says, "is how they support the Tories and Brexit"

Perhaps give that one another think.

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I'm not demanding anything.

Well, you want the monarchy to be abolished but most Britains support it.

For now.

[Prima Scriptura]

Well, you want the monarchy to be abolished but most Britains support it.

For now.

You can put your far left pipe dreams in the bin. The monarchy of the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland is going to be around for a while. Most of the Commonwealth will still recognize the monarch as head of state for some time as well.

[Ifreann]

For now.

You can put your far left pipe dreams in the bin.

Strange for an American to think that abolishing the monarchy is far left.

The monarchy of the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland is going to be around for a while. Most of the Commonwealth will still recognize the monarch as head of state for some time as well.

We'll see.

[Prima Scriptura]

You can put your far left pipe dreams in the bin.

Strange for an American to think that abolishing the monarchy is far left.

The monarchy of the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland is going to be around for a while. Most of the Commonwealth will still recognize the monarch as head of state for some time as well.

We'll see.

It is far left in terms of British politics. I’m going to give an educated guess and say that you had family members in the IRA

[Senkaku]

Strange for an American to think that abolishing the monarchy is far left.

We'll see.

It is far left in terms of British politics. I’m going to give an educated guess and say that you had family members in the IRA

i don't think educated guess means what you think lmaooo

[Celritannia]

Strange for an American to think that abolishing the monarchy is far left.

We'll see.

It is far left in terms of British politics.

No, no it is not.

[Prima Scriptura]

It is far left in terms of British politics.

No, no it is not.

Name one right-wing Republican in the UK