Elizabeth II / Charles III megathread

[Bursken]

I find it rather wierd that Charles chose the title of Charles III, considering that Charles I and Charles II were both less than favorable royals. I suppose it’s up to him now to clear their names.

Well, Charles II was popular, but if you don't like Charles III, based off history, there is a 50/50 chance he gets beheaded

[Hiram Land]

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You seem.... Quite awfully jolly today?

But then, gives me a perfect opportunity to talk about the future of these commonwealth realms, cause to nobody's surprise the Republic movement's starting to get some attention

I'm wagering all bets on Solomon Islands splitting off, Sogavare's sounding a bit authoritarian with the "we'll kick out any journos who criticise my links with China" and the whole delaying the election thing, I wouldn't be surprised if he wants to become SB's head of state

What will be your prediction for our hat Canada?
(I am an American thus the use of the word hat)

[Celritannia]

You seem.... Quite awfully jolly today?

But then, gives me a perfect opportunity to talk about the future of these commonwealth realms, cause to nobody's surprise the Republic movement's starting to get some attention

I'm wagering all bets on Solomon Islands splitting off, Sogavare's sounding a bit authoritarian with the "we'll kick out any journos who criticise my links with China" and the whole delaying the election thing, I wouldn't be surprised if he wants to become SB's head of state

What will be your prediction for our hat Canada?
(I am an American thus the use of the word hat)

For me, I think Canada is the least likely Commonwealth Realm to remove the Monarchy.

[Perikuresu]

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What will be your prediction for our hat Canada?
(I am an American thus the use of the word hat)[/quote]
Honestly, Canada has strong links with the British and their monarchy so I doubt they'd split off, NZ is also one of the states unlikely to split off due to the issue of Indigenous Rights since the Treaty of Waitangi was signed between the Maoris and the British Crown.

Idk about the smaller island nations in the Caribbean or the Pacific, maybe the UK will make the deal sweeter for the Pacific Island nations so to keep Western influence in the Asia-Pacific in face of growing Chinese influence but ik Australia (and us Aussies) don't give a fuck about the monarchy unless they're personally invested in them

[Australian rePublic]

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You seem.... Quite awfully jolly today?

But then, gives me a perfect opportunity to talk about the future of these commonwealth realms, cause to nobody's surprise the Republic movement's starting to get some attention

I'm wagering all bets on Solomon Islands splitting off, Sogavare's sounding a bit authoritarian with the "we'll kick out any journos who criticise my links with China" and the whole delaying the election thing, I wouldn't be surprised if he wants to become SB's head of state

Remove all accountability. Good excuse to get rid of the monarchy

[Hiram Land]

You seem.... Quite awfully jolly today?

But then, gives me a perfect opportunity to talk about the future of these commonwealth realms, cause to nobody's surprise the Republic movement's starting to get some attention

I'm wagering all bets on Solomon Islands splitting off, Sogavare's sounding a bit authoritarian with the "we'll kick out any journos who criticise my links with China" and the whole delaying the election thing, I wouldn't be surprised if he wants to become SB's head of state

Remove all accountability. Good excuse to get rid of the monarchy

Just get a referendum

[Perikuresu]

Remove all accountability. Good excuse to get rid of the monarchy

The last time I checked, the monarchy can't do anything in Commonwealth realms other than appoint Governor Generals and give words of advice or warning. Remember when Gough Whitlam said "God save the Queen for nothing will save the Governor General." Well he wasn't wrong, could ask Fiji's GG when a military coup happened, or Grenada's when a communist revolution happened there, although he was kept on his position to make the new regime seem more legit.

Plus there are other ways of accountability, like a free media, the highest court (or high/supreme court), having a bicameral house that checks bills and legislation, term limits, an independent organisation that investigates corruption (not the trash ScoMo tried to shit out that basically didn't allow the Federal ICAC to do what it was meant to do), etc., etc.

Just get a referendum

Australia did. It failed

[Hiram Land]

Just get a referendum

Australia did. It failed

Yeah. It happened during Liz's reign though so now them republicans can have a better chance if Charlie becomes less popular in Australia.

[Rakhalia]

Australia did. It failed

Yeah. It happened during Liz's reign though so now them republicans can have a better chance if Charlie becomes less popular in Australia.

It's what people opposed to the House of Windsor all over the world have been waiting for. It's the same as any royal intrigue during the middle ages -- the monarch dying is always a period of instability, and thus opportunity for those who seek to be free of the crown's yoke.

[Hiram Land]

Yeah. It happened during Liz's reign though so now them republicans can have a better chance if Charlie becomes less popular in Australia.

It's what people opposed to the House of Windsor all over the world have been waiting for. It's the same as any royal intrigue during the middle ages -- the monarch dying is always a period of instability, and thus opportunity for those who seek to be free of the crown's yoke.

There wasn't much instability when her father died and she became Queen though.

[Ifreann]

Remove all accountability. Good excuse to get rid of the monarchy

The last time I checked, the monarchy can't do anything in Commonwealth realms other than appoint Governor Generals and give words of advice or warning. Remember when Gough Whitlam said "God save the Queen for nothing will save the Governor General." Well he wasn't wrong, could ask Fiji's GG when a military coup happened, or Grenada's when a communist revolution happened there, although he was kept on his position to make the new regime seem more legit.

There was that time a Governor General took the government from the Australian Labour Party and gave it to the Liberal Party. Plus the UK is right now blocking Bermuda from legalising marijuana by ordering the Governor General to refuse assent.

[Marnrio]

Ehhhh, i don't have much to talk about right now in this time. I mean, the coffin is getting transported today..

[Old Tyrannia]

The last time I checked, the monarchy can't do anything in Commonwealth realms other than appoint Governor Generals and give words of advice or warning. Remember when Gough Whitlam said "God save the Queen for nothing will save the Governor General." Well he wasn't wrong, could ask Fiji's GG when a military coup happened, or Grenada's when a communist revolution happened there, although he was kept on his position to make the new regime seem more legit.

There was that time a Governor General took the government from the Australian Labour Party and gave it to the Liberal Party. Plus the UK is right now blocking Bermuda from legalising marijuana by ordering the Governor General to refuse assent.

Bermuda doesn't have a governor-general because it's not a sovereign Commonwealth realm, it's a British overseas territory- which is also why the British Government is able to intervene in its governance in the way that it has.

[Northern Seleucia]

Yeah I meant the Greek royal fam.

ahh

Indeed, and they changed due to WW1 reasons.

Now that we've been peaceful with Germany for 75 odd years now, don'tcha think it's time for a change?

I dunno, Saxe-Coburg and Gotha is one HELL of a last name/royal house name.

[Northern Seleucia]

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You seem.... Quite awfully jolly today?

But then, gives me a perfect opportunity to talk about the future of these commonwealth realms, cause to nobody's surprise the Republic movement's starting to get some attention

I'm wagering all bets on Solomon Islands splitting off, Sogavare's sounding a bit authoritarian with the "we'll kick out any journos who criticise my links with China" and the whole delaying the election thing, I wouldn't be surprised if he wants to become SB's head of state

Tbh I sense a second Operation Urgent Fury there but I disgree, off topic.

[Rakhalia]

It's what people opposed to the House of Windsor all over the world have been waiting for. It's the same as any royal intrigue during the middle ages -- the monarch dying is always a period of instability, and thus opportunity for those who seek to be free of the crown's yoke.

There wasn't much instability when her father died and she became Queen though.

It isn't 1952 anymore.

[Hiram Land]

There wasn't much instability when her father died and she became Queen though.

It isn't 1952 anymore.

And it isn't 1452 either.

[Hiram Land]

ahh


Now that we've been peaceful with Germany for 75 odd years now, don'tcha think it's time for a change?

I dunno, Saxe-Coburg and Gotha is one HELL of a last name/royal house name.

Just say Saxy coatburg goat-ha, it should be catchy.

[Northern Seleucia]

I dunno, Saxe-Coburg and Gotha is one HELL of a last name/royal house name.

Just say Saxy coatburg goat-ha, it should be catchy.

You've enlightened me, gracious one. It seems much better now. House of Saxy Coatburg Goat-Ha is better than Wind Zir.

[Luminesa]

Yeah. It happened during Liz's reign though so now them republicans can have a better chance if Charlie becomes less popular in Australia.

It's what people opposed to the House of Windsor all over the world have been waiting for. It's the same as any royal intrigue during the middle ages -- the monarch dying is always a period of instability, and thus opportunity for those who seek to be free of the crown's yoke.

Not entirely. In terms of social change, absolutely. But the crown should pass smoothly to Charles in the physical and ceremonial sense. It will be his duty afterward to uphold his mother's sense of service to her country, which...as much as I'm probably speaking to a wall, was something she desired to embody. So in that sense, yes, there will be instability until we recognize that Charles can carry his position well.

[Luziyca]

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You seem.... Quite awfully jolly today?

But then, gives me a perfect opportunity to talk about the future of these commonwealth realms, cause to nobody's surprise the Republic movement's starting to get some attention

I'm wagering all bets on Solomon Islands splitting off, Sogavare's sounding a bit authoritarian with the "we'll kick out any journos who criticise my links with China" and the whole delaying the election thing, I wouldn't be surprised if he wants to become SB's head of state

I think Canada would be the absolute last place to become a Republic, because if we ever try and write out the monarch out of the constitution, that'd require the unanimous consent of all provinces, plus both houses of Parliament, and given how fraught major amendments are... it's probably best to not reopen the constitutional can of worms here in Canada.

[Kalivyah]

I have some optimism that the monarchy in Britain will be abolished, at least around the time that William V comes around. Charles is probably not long for this world and William is not what I would define as "popular". Of course that can change and I am not a physic capable of predicting the future... but the popularity of the British monarchy largely persisted because of Elizabeth. She was an old lady yeah but she was an old lady that had been sitting on the throne most likely when some people's grandparents and parents were born. Charles III doesn't really have anything to his name.

[Prima Scriptura]

I have some optimism that the monarchy in Britain will be abolished, at least around the time that William V comes around. Charles is probably not long for this world and William is not what I would define as "popular". Of course that can change and I am not a physic capable of predicting the future... but the popularity of the British monarchy largely persisted because of Elizabeth. She was an old lady yeah but she was an old lady that had been sitting on the throne most likely when some people's grandparents and parents were born. Charles III doesn't really have anything to his name.

The British monarchy isn’t being abolished.

[Hispida]

I have some optimism that the monarchy in Britain will be abolished, at least around the time that William V comes around. Charles is probably not long for this world and William is not what I would define as "popular". Of course that can change and I am not a physic capable of predicting the future... but the popularity of the British monarchy largely persisted because of Elizabeth. She was an old lady yeah but she was an old lady that had been sitting on the throne most likely when some people's grandparents and parents were born. Charles III doesn't really have anything to his name.

The British monarchy isn’t being abolished.

unfortunate

[Nolo gap]

from my perspective, charles' environmentalism, is a positive.

96 is more years then i can expect for myself. even my own mom only made it to 91.

time passes. life goes on. each of us are only here for a finite time.