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Postby Tillania » Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:46 am

No matter how much I disliked Queen Elizabeth II as a concept, I had nothing but respect for Elizabeth Windsor the person.
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Postby Hiram Land » Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:54 am

Tillania wrote:No matter how much I disliked Queen Elizabeth II as a concept, I had nothing but respect for Elizabeth Windsor the person.

It's fine if you didn't like the job she did or the concept, but at least respect the person who had to do it. It's good that people are doing that - I wish people my generation (yeah I'm a part of the Gen Z haha) wouldn't have made memes about her for like... 12 hours at least.

The Big Ben meme was hilarious though, I'll give it that.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:00 am

Every single coin of the Australian dollar has Elizabeth's face on it (we switched from pound to dollar under her reign). It'll be interesting seeing coins without her face on it, and as a numismatist, I will be waiting for Charles' face. But the coins with Elizabeth's face will continue to remain in circulation for as long as they last
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Postby Saiwania » Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:01 am

Wayneactia wrote:They would likely be in the same boat as Ireland....


Ireland has a decent economy, and has functioned fine as its own country. If Scotland is on par with Ireland, then I'd have to conclude that Scotland probably will make it if it became its own country. Just that it sometimes isn't practical to grant independence or would be worse off. Like certain Pacific islands that have no good resources and have to import everything in, so are an overseas colony instead.
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Postby Afrikan Staat » Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:01 am

At least she died peacefully. Thanks to the 24 hour news cycle. Unlike her grandpa, King George V, of whom the doctor injected him with lethal poison so that his death made it to the morning news instead of the less read evening news.
Dawson wrote that he acted to preserve the King's dignity, to prevent further strain on the family, and so that the King's death at 11:55 pm could be announced in the morning edition of The Times newspaper rather than "less appropriate ... evening journals".[118][120] Neither Queen Mary, who was intensely religious and might not have sanctioned euthanasia, nor the Prince of Wales was consulted.

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Hiram Land wrote:
Tillania wrote:No matter how much I disliked Queen Elizabeth II as a concept, I had nothing but respect for Elizabeth Windsor the person.

It's fine if you didn't like the job she did or the concept, but at least respect the person who had to do it. It's good that people are doing that - I wish people my generation (yeah I'm a part of the Gen Z haha) wouldn't have made memes about her for like... 12 hours at least.

The Big Ben meme was hilarious though, I'll give it that.

I'm very pro-monarchy, but meme the queen all you like. I mean, she's very wealthy and privlidged, albiet with a shitty job. But the woman just died. Have some respect.
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Hiram Land wrote:It's fine if you didn't like the job she did or the concept, but at least respect the person who had to do it. It's good that people are doing that - I wish people my generation (yeah I'm a part of the Gen Z haha) wouldn't have made memes about her for like... 12 hours at least.

The Big Ben meme was hilarious though, I'll give it that.

I'm very pro-monarchy, but meme the queen all you like. I mean, she's very wealthy and privlidged, albiet with a shitty job. But the woman just died. Have some respect.

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Postby Myrensis » Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:15 am

Afrikan Staat wrote:At least she died peacefully. Thanks to the 24 hour news cycle. Unlike her grandpa, King George V, of whom the doctor injected him with lethal poison so that his death made it to the morning news instead of the less read evening news.
Dawson wrote that he acted to preserve the King's dignity, to prevent further strain on the family, and so that the King's death at 11:55 pm could be announced in the morning edition of The Times newspaper rather than "less appropriate ... evening journals".[118][120] Neither Queen Mary, who was intensely religious and might not have sanctioned euthanasia, nor the Prince of Wales was consulted.

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The papers thing sounds bizarre, but that kind of stuff was actually considered "important" back then, at least to the 'upper class'. Worth remembering that George only took the Throne because his brother was forced to abdicate over the "scandal" of wanting to marry a divorcee, while his twice married adulterous grandson just became King with his former mistress (also with a previous marriage) as Queen.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:19 am

Australian rePublic wrote:
Hiram Land wrote:It's fine if you didn't like the job she did or the concept, but at least respect the person who had to do it. It's good that people are doing that - I wish people my generation (yeah I'm a part of the Gen Z haha) wouldn't have made memes about her for like... 12 hours at least.

The Big Ben meme was hilarious though, I'll give it that.

I'm very pro-monarchy, but meme the queen all you like. I mean, she's very wealthy and privlidged, albiet with a shitty job. But the woman just died. Have some respect.


Indeed, meme all you like. Humor is a coping mechanism :)
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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:33 am

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Afrikan Staat wrote:At least she died peacefully. Thanks to the 24 hour news cycle. Unlike her grandpa, King George V, of whom the doctor injected him with lethal poison so that his death made it to the morning news instead of the less read evening news.


The papers thing sounds bizarre, but that kind of stuff was actually considered "important" back then, at least to the 'upper class'. Worth remembering that George only took the Throne because his brother was forced to abdicate over the "scandal" of wanting to marry a divorcee, while his twice married adulterous grandson just became King with his former mistress (also with a previous marriage) as Queen.

Wait, divorce and mistresses make you ineligible for the English throne? No one tell Henry 8!
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Postby Rakhalia » Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:42 am

Myrensis wrote:
Afrikan Staat wrote:At least she died peacefully. Thanks to the 24 hour news cycle. Unlike her grandpa, King George V, of whom the doctor injected him with lethal poison so that his death made it to the morning news instead of the less read evening news.


The papers thing sounds bizarre, but that kind of stuff was actually considered "important" back then, at least to the 'upper class'. Worth remembering that George only took the Throne because his brother was forced to abdicate over the "scandal" of wanting to marry a divorcee, while his twice married adulterous grandson just became King with his former mistress (also with a previous marriage) as Queen.

You're thinking about George VI, Elizabeth's Dad. George V was the one before Edward VIII who abdicated, and the one who was injected with poison.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Fri Sep 09, 2022 5:58 am

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The Alma Mater wrote:Well, the last George who had to wait for ages to get the throne was not a real success story either..
Arthur would have been awesome but I understand why he did not go for that.


Yeah, he would never live up to the kind of legend that is king Arthur.

Now, being less of a failure than the other Charles' is more likely to be inside his capabilities.


Charles II was a highly successful and popular monarch who reigned for 25 years, and skillfully navigated the monarchy through the challenges of the Restoration after the Cromwellian era.

The main problem is that people don't really remember him for his extensive political accomplishments, but rather for shagging anything with a pulse.

But we really need to get past this 'Charles I & II were both failures'. Charles I was a dismal failure who literally lost his head after a civil war as a direct result of his political failings. Charles II was a successful monarch whose considerable political skill helped stabilise the monarch after the Restoration, though his private life was fairly scandalous even in his own day.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Sep 09, 2022 6:01 am

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Yeah, he would never live up to the kind of legend that is king Arthur.

Now, being less of a failure than the other Charles' is more likely to be inside his capabilities.


Charles II was a highly successful and popular monarch who reigned for 25 years, and skillfully navigated the monarchy through the challenges of the Restoration after the Cromwellian era.

The main problem is that people don't really remember him for his extensive political accomplishments, but rather for shagging anything with a pulse.

But we really need to get past this 'Charles I & II were both failures'. Charles I was a dismal failure who literally lost his head after a civil war as a direct result of his political failings. Charles II was a successful monarch whose considerable political skill helped stabilise the monarch after the Restoration, though his private life was fairly scandalous even in his own day.


Soooo... Charles 3 has some big shoes to fill? :p
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Postby Salus Maior » Fri Sep 09, 2022 6:05 am

Flanderlion wrote:Is a shame, was an awesome Queen, we couldn't have asked for anything more. Thank you for a great reign.

Charles though... like, he should've abdicated and let William take the throne. Instead I guess I'm going to have to support a republic.


...Why?

I mean you've sat through several awful PMs, and as far as I can see you'll sit through plenty more, I imagine you can tolerate one flawed King for as long as he's going to have the throne. Which certainly is not going to be as long as Liz.
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Postby Denoidumbutoniurucwivobrs » Fri Sep 09, 2022 6:06 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:
Charles II was a highly successful and popular monarch who reigned for 25 years, and skillfully navigated the monarchy through the challenges of the Restoration after the Cromwellian era.

The main problem is that people don't really remember him for his extensive political accomplishments, but rather for shagging anything with a pulse.

But we really need to get past this 'Charles I & II were both failures'. Charles I was a dismal failure who literally lost his head after a civil war as a direct result of his political failings. Charles II was a successful monarch whose considerable political skill helped stabilise the monarch after the Restoration, though his private life was fairly scandalous even in his own day.


Soooo... Charles 3 has some big shoes to fill? :p


King Charles III is 73 right now, so at most he'll have 25 years of reign. He'll need to fill those shoes fast!
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Salus Maior wrote:
Flanderlion wrote:Is a shame, was an awesome Queen, we couldn't have asked for anything more. Thank you for a great reign.

Charles though... like, he should've abdicated and let William take the throne. Instead I guess I'm going to have to support a republic.


...Why?

I mean you've sat through several awful PMs, I imagine you can tolerate one flawed King for as long as he's going to have the throne. Which certainly is not going to be as long as Liz.


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Denoidumbutoniurucwivobrs wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Soooo... Charles 3 has some big shoes to fill? :p


King Charles III is 73 right now, so at most he'll have 25 years of reign. He'll need to fill those shoes fast!


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Postby Hiram Land » Fri Sep 09, 2022 6:09 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
...Why?

I mean you've sat through several awful PMs, I imagine you can tolerate one flawed King for as long as he's going to have the throne. Which certainly is not going to be as long as Liz.


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Postby Hiram Land » Fri Sep 09, 2022 6:11 am

Salus Maior wrote:
Flanderlion wrote:Is a shame, was an awesome Queen, we couldn't have asked for anything more. Thank you for a great reign.

Charles though... like, he should've abdicated and let William take the throne. Instead I guess I'm going to have to support a republic.


...Why?

I mean you've sat through several awful PMs, and as far as I can see you'll sit through plenty more, I imagine you can tolerate one flawed King for as long as he's going to have the throne. Which certainly is not going to be as long as Liz.

So you're saying Liz will be as long as Thatcher? I think Charles will reign for at least 10 years.
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Postby Salus Maior » Fri Sep 09, 2022 6:17 am

Hiram Land wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
...Why?

I mean you've sat through several awful PMs, and as far as I can see you'll sit through plenty more, I imagine you can tolerate one flawed King for as long as he's going to have the throne. Which certainly is not going to be as long as Liz.

So you're saying Liz will be as long as Thatcher? I think Charles will reign for at least 10 years.


...Elizabeth was far longer than Thatcher, I don't know what you mean by that. And sure, I imagine he will or probably longer than that. I don't see that as a bad thing or something to dread. Charles has led a messy life, clearly, but I don't think he's an evil person or someone who doesn't take his duties seriously. He may not be the most amazing King in the world, he may not be as beloved as his mother, but he won't be awful.
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Postby Hiram Land » Fri Sep 09, 2022 6:20 am

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Hiram Land wrote:So you're saying Liz will be as long as Thatcher? I think Charles will reign for at least 10 years.


...Elizabeth was far longer than Thatcher, I don't know what you mean by that. And sure, I imagine he will or probably longer than that. I don't see that as a bad thing or something to dread. Charles has led a messy life, clearly, but I don't think he's an evil person or someone who doesn't take his duties seriously. He may not be the most amazing King in the world, he may not be as beloved as his mother, but he won't be awful.

I was referring to the last part of your statement mate - though I will agree on everything else. I probably thought you were referring to Liz Truss, not Elizabeth.
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Postby Salus Maior » Fri Sep 09, 2022 6:23 am

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...Elizabeth was far longer than Thatcher, I don't know what you mean by that. And sure, I imagine he will or probably longer than that. I don't see that as a bad thing or something to dread. Charles has led a messy life, clearly, but I don't think he's an evil person or someone who doesn't take his duties seriously. He may not be the most amazing King in the world, he may not be as beloved as his mother, but he won't be awful.

I was referring to the last part of your statement mate - though I will agree on everything else. I probably thought you were referring to Liz Truss, not Elizabeth.


I don't know much about Truss, but the turnover rate for PMs seems high these days.
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Postby Hiram Land » Fri Sep 09, 2022 6:25 am

Salus Maior wrote:
Hiram Land wrote:I was referring to the last part of your statement mate - though I will agree on everything else. I probably thought you were referring to Liz Truss, not Elizabeth.


I don't know much about Truss, but the turnover rate for PMs seems high these days.

Very. I miss the good ol' days when Cameron reigned for longer than four years.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Sep 09, 2022 6:32 am

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