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Postby Aursi » Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:22 am

Some might think Charles should abdicate for his son William. But imo. Charles has been waiting for this for 73 years. He should enjoy it, even if for a small time.
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Postby Perikuresu » Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:23 am

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:I find it rather wierd that Charles chose the title of Charles III, considering that Charles I and Charles II were both less than favorable royals. I suppose it’s up to him now to clear their names.

Tbh it's a little unfair to judge Charles over the names of 2 other monarchs dating from somewhere in the Stuart era and before, but then, the last bit is a little true, it is up to him to clear his name.

I think his reign will be marked by him trying to push environmentalism and leading the Commonwealth into a cleaner future, which probably would strike great favour with the younger generation.
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Postby Myrensis » Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:24 am

El Lazaro wrote:I think the public support could exist in Scotland for a majority in a referendum, but afaik they couldn’t secede without UK parliamentary approval. Seeing as the English parties oppose it, there’s not much of a chance.


Do they plan to send in the Army to hold down their rebellious subjects?

Would be kind of a bad look after the whole thing with Brexit and the wailing about the intolerable subjugation of EU suggested passport colors.

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Postby Laka Strolistandiler » Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:30 am

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Laka Strolistandiler wrote:I find it rather wierd that Charles chose the title of Charles III, considering that Charles I and Charles II were both less than favorable royals. I suppose it’s up to him now to clear their names.

Tbh it's a little unfair to judge Charles over the names of 2 other monarchs dating from somewhere in the Stuart era and before, but then, the last bit is a little true, it is up to him to clear his name.

I think his reign will be marked by him trying to push environmentalism and leading the Commonwealth into a cleaner future, which probably would strike great favour with the younger generation.

Considering how poorly green energy performed in the UK, I’d argue that nuclear should be the answer. It’s more efficient, far less dangerous than fossil fuels and is far more potent than green energy. And it rarely fails if safety protocols are followed.

I’d argue that his reign will be primarily focused on him strengthening relationships with the CANZUK- something his mother has already began doing. Hope for it to turn into a new and improved British Empire, but one can only dream of so many impossible things eh
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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri Sep 09, 2022 1:59 am

Laka Strolistandiler wrote:I find it rather wierd that Charles chose the title of Charles III, considering that Charles I and Charles II were both less than favorable royals. I suppose it’s up to him now to clear their names.

Well, the last George who had to wait for ages to get the throne was not a real success story either..
Arthur would have been awesome but I understand why he did not go for that.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:12 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Laka Strolistandiler wrote:I find it rather wierd that Charles chose the title of Charles III, considering that Charles I and Charles II were both less than favorable royals. I suppose it’s up to him now to clear their names.

Well, the last George who had to wait for ages to get the throne was not a real success story either..
Arthur would have been awesome but I understand why he did not go for that.


Yeah, he would never live up to the kind of legend that is king Arthur.

Now, being less of a failure than the other Charles' is more likely to be inside his capabilities.
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Postby Hestarre » Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:14 am

Our grandparents played Queen Elizabeth's 21st bday speech to us. This part impressed me ->

"If we all go forward together with an unwavering faith, a high courage, and a quiet heart, we shall be able to make of this ancient commonwealth, which we all love so dearly, an even grander thing - more free, more prosperous, more happy and a more powerful influence for good in the world - than it has been in the greatest days of our forefathers.

To accomplish that we must give nothing less than the whole of ourselves. There is a motto which has been borne by many of my ancestors - a noble motto, "I serve".

"I declare before you all that my whole life whether it be long or short shall be devoted to your service and the service of our great imperial family to which we all belong. But I shall not have strength to carry out this resolution alone unless you join in it with me, as I now invite you to do: I know that your support will be unfailingly given. God help me to make good my vow, and God bless all of you who are willing to share in it."

They say she served well and made good that vow. May Elizabeth II RIP. May King Charles III serve in like manner.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Sep 09, 2022 2:56 am

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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:03 am


She reigned during Mao? :o
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Postby Old Tyrannia » Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:19 am

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Azania- wrote:Lmao look at Italy.

She reigned during Mao? :o

Mao, Stalin, Franco, Salazar, Tito... The Queen's reign coincided with the tenures of a great many famous dictators. Nasser came to power in Egypt a matter of months after her ascension to the throne.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:26 am

Ulajhan wrote:I have nothing really nice to say about the queen, but in hindsight nothing bad either, until recently diving into some really bad shit she was apart of. But for the sanctity of this thread I will leave it at didn't think she would actually die.


One can always focus on how she cut a cake with a sword, pulled a marmelade sandwich from her purse with Paddington or jumped from a helicopter with Bond ;)

But I must say the way the Irish are celebrating her passing is... intruiging.
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Postby Countesia » Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:31 am

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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:46 am

Ulajhan wrote:I have nothing really nice to say about the queen, but in hindsight nothing bad either, until recently diving into some really bad shit she was apart of. But for the sanctity of this thread I will leave it at didn't think she would actually die.

How much of that happened under her rule, though? I mean, by the time she became queen, most of that shit was over
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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:48 am

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Ulajhan wrote:I have nothing really nice to say about the queen, but in hindsight nothing bad either, until recently diving into some really bad shit she was apart of. But for the sanctity of this thread I will leave it at didn't think she would actually die.


One can always focus on how she cut a cake with a sword, pulled a marmelade sandwich from her purse with Paddington or jumped from a helicopter with Bond ;)

But I must say the way the Irish are celebrating her passing is... intruiging.

Whatever you think of the queen, you have to admit that that Paddington Bear clip was cute
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:50 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:She reigned during Mao? :o

Mao, Stalin, Franco, Salazar, Tito... The Queen's reign coincided with the tenures of a great many famous dictators. Nasser came to power in Egypt a matter of months after her ascension to the throne.


She did Nasse(e)r that coming.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:52 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:She reigned during Mao? :o

Mao, Stalin, Franco, Salazar, Tito... The Queen's reign coincided with the tenures of a great many famous dictators. Nasser came to power in Egypt a matter of months after her ascension to the throne.

Wow!
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Postby Michel Meilleur » Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:55 am

Aursi wrote:Some might think Charles should abdicate for his son William. But imo. Charles has been waiting for this for 73 years. He should enjoy it, even if for a small time.

William isn't much better than his dad, tho. Honestly, with the current crop of royals, justifying the continued existence of the monarchy to the public is going to keep on getting harder and harder.

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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:57 am

Many people are very anti-monarchy. Elizabeth herself was very popular, but Charlie not so much, especially thanks to Camilla. We all know how modern William and (pre-Meghan) Harry are, but Charlie is still a bit old fashioned, which isn't going to win over too many people, and I think he knows that. Charlie is also quite vocal about matters such as environmentalism and religious peace, whilst Elizabeth mostly kept her mouth shut about such matters. It'd be very interesting to see how Charlie will reign and possibly try to win over republicans
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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Sep 09, 2022 3:59 am

Michel Meilleur wrote:
Aursi wrote:Some might think Charles should abdicate for his son William. But imo. Charles has been waiting for this for 73 years. He should enjoy it, even if for a small time.

William isn't much better than his dad, tho. Honestly, with the current crop of royals, justifying the continued existence of the monarchy to the public is going to keep on getting harder and harder.

The thing is, it's not about who's better, it's about popularity. Will is by far more popular than Charlie
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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:07 am

Fun fact, of the 15 countries that Charles Windsor is king of, only two of them drive on the right- Canada and Belize!
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Australian rePublic wrote:Many people are very anti-monarchy. Elizabeth herself was very popular, but Charlie not so much, especially thanks to Camilla. We all know how modern William and (pre-Meghan) Harry are, but Charlie is still a bit old fashioned, which isn't going to win over too many people, and I think he knows that. Charlie is also quite vocal about matters such as environmentalism and religious peace, whilst Elizabeth mostly kept her mouth shut about such matters. It'd be very interesting to see how Charlie will reign and possibly try to win over republicans


When it comes to my environmental ideas, he's my lukewarm ally at best. When it comes to my democratic ideas, he's my adversary. There's no winning over, it's not something that is somewhat negotiable. At best postponeable.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:10 am

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Australian rePublic wrote:Many people are very anti-monarchy. Elizabeth herself was very popular, but Charlie not so much, especially thanks to Camilla. We all know how modern William and (pre-Meghan) Harry are, but Charlie is still a bit old fashioned, which isn't going to win over too many people, and I think he knows that. Charlie is also quite vocal about matters such as environmentalism and religious peace, whilst Elizabeth mostly kept her mouth shut about such matters. It'd be very interesting to see how Charlie will reign and possibly try to win over republicans


When it comes to my environmental ideas, he's my lukewarm ally at best. When it comes to my democratic ideas, he's my adversary.

How do you figure?
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:17 am

Australian rePublic wrote:
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When it comes to my environmental ideas, he's my lukewarm ally at best. When it comes to my democratic ideas, he's my adversary.

How do you figure?


I'm a republican (note : small r) , he's a monarch, we're at odds :p
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Postby Risottia » Fri Sep 09, 2022 4:20 am

Perikuresu wrote:...
I think his reign will be marked by him trying to push environmentalism ...

With Truss at no.10 ?
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