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What do you think of California's future?

It looks bleak. The state is doomed unless big changes are made.
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Things may be rough now, but I think it will be okay in the end.
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Finalis
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Postby Finalis » Tue Sep 06, 2022 3:21 pm

Excidium Planetis wrote:
Finalis wrote:man californians really are the touchiest out of any state in america. even new yorkers don't complain this much when people from new jersey knock their state (at least nj had james gandalfini, we was awesome)


That's because New York and New Jersey objectively suck, so it wouldn't make sense to complain when people point out this fact.

California, however, is objectively the best state, so obviously it makes sense that Californians would complain when non-Californians criticize it.

jersey sucks right up until summer comes along and the rest of the country begins their yearly migration to its beaches

also i am wondering what standard we're using for objective here lol
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Sep 06, 2022 3:38 pm

Finalis wrote:
Excidium Planetis wrote:
That's because New York and New Jersey objectively suck, so it wouldn't make sense to complain when people point out this fact.

California, however, is objectively the best state, so obviously it makes sense that Californians would complain when non-Californians criticize it.

jersey sucks right up until summer comes along and the rest of the country begins their yearly migration to its beaches

also i am wondering what standard we're using for objective here lol

Well, those who can't make it to the vastly superior beaches of California.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Tue Sep 06, 2022 3:45 pm

Famine, natural disaster, drought, eventual societal collapse. Same as most other places really, that’s just the future we’ve made for ourselves.
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Finalis
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Postby Finalis » Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:43 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Finalis wrote:jersey sucks right up until summer comes along and the rest of the country begins their yearly migration to its beaches

also i am wondering what standard we're using for objective here lol

Well, those who can't make it to the vastly superior beaches of California.

slanderous, but jersey also sucks aside from the beaches so i don't really care
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Postby Finalis » Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:43 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:Famine, natural disaster, drought, eventual societal collapse. Same as most other places really, that’s just the future we’ve made for ourselves.

you should get a job as a motivational speaker
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Postby The French Army » Tue Sep 06, 2022 7:00 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
The French Army wrote:
New York (State) has affordable housing and enough water.

New York state is $100,000 above the national average.

Also, it's weird for you all to get so worked up about our water problems. I'm sure the people in Flint wished you cared this much about them. Or Jackson, Mississippi.

Well, I guess 'care' is not the appropriate word since you don't seem to actually give a shit but instead want to celebrate the challenges of others for some weird fucking reason.


New York City metro area is wildly expensive, and it skews all the statewide statistics. The rest of the state is very affordable. It's totally normal to find houses upstate for $50,000 to $100,000.

There is a reason I clarified New York State, not just "New York," because upstate is totally different from NYC metro area.

People who think NYC should be its own state... I'm not sure if I agree, but I understand where they get that thought.

And you're taking my post way more personally than how I meant it. I wasn't going to even rag on Cali if nobody talked trash about NY.

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Postby Ayytaly » Tue Sep 06, 2022 7:45 pm

The French Army wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:New York state is $100,000 above the national average.

Also, it's weird for you all to get so worked up about our water problems. I'm sure the people in Flint wished you cared this much about them. Or Jackson, Mississippi.

Well, I guess 'care' is not the appropriate word since you don't seem to actually give a shit but instead want to celebrate the challenges of others for some weird fucking reason.


New York City metro area is wildly expensive, and it skews all the statewide statistics. The rest of the state is very affordable. It's totally normal to find houses upstate for $50,000 to $100,000.

There is a reason I clarified New York State, not just "New York," because upstate is totally different from NYC metro area.

People who think NYC should be its own state... I'm not sure if I agree, but I understand where they get that thought.

And you're taking my post way more personally than how I meant it. I wasn't going to even rag on Cali if nobody talked trash about NY.


Long Island should be its own state.
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Postby Feyrisshire » Tue Sep 06, 2022 7:50 pm

California's future destiny is to be invaded and conquered by Magical Communist Catgirl!

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Postby The French Army » Tue Sep 06, 2022 7:53 pm

Ayytaly wrote:
The French Army wrote:
New York City metro area is wildly expensive, and it skews all the statewide statistics. The rest of the state is very affordable. It's totally normal to find houses upstate for $50,000 to $100,000.

There is a reason I clarified New York State, not just "New York," because upstate is totally different from NYC metro area.

People who think NYC should be its own state... I'm not sure if I agree, but I understand where they get that thought.

And you're taking my post way more personally than how I meant it. I wasn't going to even rag on Cali if nobody talked trash about NY.


Long Island should be its own state.


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Postby Ayytaly » Tue Sep 06, 2022 7:55 pm

Feyrisshire wrote:California's future destiny is to be invaded and conquered by Magical Communist Catgirl!

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The Japexicans have their own catgirl. It's probably some Touhou character with a sombrero.
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Postby New Zoigai » Tue Sep 06, 2022 9:27 pm

Feyrisshire wrote:California's future destiny is to be invaded and conquered by Magical Communist Catgirl!

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And then "Da Boys :Coldface emoij:" will liberate california in an epic war that will redefine human history somehow
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Sep 06, 2022 9:56 pm

Finalis wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Well, those who can't make it to the vastly superior beaches of California.

slanderous, but jersey also sucks aside from the beaches so i don't really care

How many musical genres has the Jersey beaches inspired?
The French Army wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:New York state is $100,000 above the national average.

Also, it's weird for you all to get so worked up about our water problems. I'm sure the people in Flint wished you cared this much about them. Or Jackson, Mississippi.

Well, I guess 'care' is not the appropriate word since you don't seem to actually give a shit but instead want to celebrate the challenges of others for some weird fucking reason.


New York City metro area is wildly expensive, and it skews all the statewide statistics. The rest of the state is very affordable. It's totally normal to find houses upstate for $50,000 to $100,000.

There is a reason I clarified New York State, not just "New York," because upstate is totally different from NYC metro area.

People who think NYC should be its own state... I'm not sure if I agree, but I understand where they get that thought.

And you're taking my post way more personally than how I meant it. I wasn't going to even rag on Cali if nobody talked trash about NY.

Yeah, there's a reason I specified New York State, too. But you do you. And you joined the chorus, homie. I'm not going to spend a bunch of time trying to sort out your level of commitment to the Two Minute California hate just because you might get sensitive after taking your shots.
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Postby The French Army » Tue Sep 06, 2022 10:25 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Finalis wrote:slanderous, but jersey also sucks aside from the beaches so i don't really care

How many musical genres has the Jersey beaches inspired?
The French Army wrote:
New York City metro area is wildly expensive, and it skews all the statewide statistics. The rest of the state is very affordable. It's totally normal to find houses upstate for $50,000 to $100,000.

There is a reason I clarified New York State, not just "New York," because upstate is totally different from NYC metro area.

People who think NYC should be its own state... I'm not sure if I agree, but I understand where they get that thought.

And you're taking my post way more personally than how I meant it. I wasn't going to even rag on Cali if nobody talked trash about NY.

Yeah, there's a reason I specified New York State, too. But you do you. And you joined the chorus, homie. I'm not going to spend a bunch of time trying to sort out your level of commitment to the Two Minute California hate just because you might get sensitive after taking your shots.


When you buy a house, you pay for the one you bought, not whatever is the statistical average for the state. New York has a plentiful supply of affordable housing.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Sep 06, 2022 11:05 pm

The French Army wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:How many musical genres has the Jersey beaches inspired?

Yeah, there's a reason I specified New York State, too. But you do you. And you joined the chorus, homie. I'm not going to spend a bunch of time trying to sort out your level of commitment to the Two Minute California hate just because you might get sensitive after taking your shots.


When you buy a house, you pay for the one you bought, not whatever is the statistical average for the state. New York has a plentiful supply of affordable housing.

If you're willing to live in California's armpit you can find cheaper housing too. Kinda how it works. Not sure why you think this is special.
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Postby Saiwania » Wed Sep 07, 2022 1:43 am

Excidium Planetis wrote:California, however, is objectively the best state, so obviously it makes sense that Californians would complain when non-Californians criticize it.


The problem this thread is about however, is that objectively speaking, California is gradually becoming not the best US state to live in anymore. Detroit was great for example, up until it wasn't.

California used to have close to the best weather in the world because of it's geographic location, but climate change is making it so that it is unbearably dry and hot for more of each year, with wildfire season lasting longer. People are leaving the state as it's quality of life is declining. There are abundant signs that it is losing its weather supremacy.

What was previously an 80 F day is now 90 F and up.
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Postby Stellar Colonies » Wed Sep 07, 2022 7:28 am

Saiwania wrote:...

What was previously an 80 F day is now 90 F and up.

Yes...it sucks.
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Postby Finalis » Wed Sep 07, 2022 10:53 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Finalis wrote:slanderous, but jersey also sucks aside from the beaches so i don't really care

How many musical genres has the Jersey beaches inspired?

Jersey Shore

it's a musical only because of the pain-induced screams it inspires in people :)
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Postby Greater Gyelidor » Wed Sep 28, 2022 12:31 pm

Red... It looks red

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Wed Sep 28, 2022 1:02 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Finalis wrote:slanderous, but jersey also sucks aside from the beaches so i don't really care

How many musical genres has the Jersey beaches inspired?

Funny you should mention that...
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Postby Greater Gyelidor » Thu Sep 29, 2022 1:33 am

I'm telling you guys... its looking pretty red, or is that just me?

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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Sep 29, 2022 4:36 am

As long as they leave their atrocious politics behind, Californians are welcome in Texas. Unfortunately, they often like to come here and start the same policies they were fleeing.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Sep 29, 2022 5:01 am

Big Jim P wrote:As long as they leave their atrocious politics behind, Californians are welcome in Texas. Unfortunately, they often like to come here and start the same policies they were fleeing.

Might make a fella think that they aren't fleeing those policies at all.
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Ifreann wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:As long as they leave their atrocious politics behind, Californians are welcome in Texas. Unfortunately, they often like to come here and start the same policies they were fleeing.

Might make a fella think that they aren't fleeing those policies at all.
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Postby Big Jim P » Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:34 am

Ifreann wrote:
Big Jim P wrote:As long as they leave their atrocious politics behind, Californians are welcome in Texas. Unfortunately, they often like to come here and start the same policies they were fleeing.

Might make a fella think that they aren't fleeing those policies at all.


The alternative is they are trying to spread said failed policies.
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Postby Kerwa » Thu Sep 29, 2022 6:57 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:How many musical genres has the Jersey beaches inspired?


Not sure if serious…

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