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South Pacifican Kilendjj
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Postby South Pacifican Kilendjj » Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:44 am

Incel Argentina wrote:
South Pacifican Kilendjj wrote:wow....
Just wow, that is really sexist ngl

How so?

....
Bruh, it's so obvious
you admitted to hating women, that is really sexist, remember
women and men are completely equal
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Postby Forever Indomitable » Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:45 am

Never heard of him, but I support free speech. I think the best counter to "misogyny" isn't censorship, but positive female influence (and censorship is not positive).

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Postby Theodores Tomfooleries » Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:45 am

Oh for fuck's sake. The incel argentina guy is here again. Just admit you're misogynistic and fuck off.
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Postby Incel Argentina » Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:46 am

South Pacifican Kilendjj wrote:
Incel Argentina wrote:How so?

....
Bruh, it's so obvious
you admitted to hating women, that is really sexist, remember
women and men are completely equal

Oh, sure. I don't like them.

Women and men are not equal, even their vision is different. It's like homosapiens and neaterlands, they are humans but at the same time they quite are not like us. They think different, are weaker, have less emphaty, are treated different... They are not like us.
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Argentina was long oppresed by feminism, that was until the incel movement decided to act... (just read my factbooks ffs, I'm too lazy to resume stuff)

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Postby Incel Argentina » Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:47 am

Theodores Tomfooleries wrote:Oh for fuck's sake. The incel argentina guy is here again. Just admit you're misogynistic and fuck off.

I'm not misogynistic, I don't hate women. I just dislike them, to hate would be if I constantly thought about them and wanted to eliminate them, I don't.
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Argentina was long oppresed by feminism, that was until the incel movement decided to act... (just read my factbooks ffs, I'm too lazy to resume stuff)

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Postby South Pacifican Kilendjj » Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:48 am

Incel Argentina wrote:
South Pacifican Kilendjj wrote:....
Bruh, it's so obvious
you admitted to hating women, that is really sexist, remember
women and men are completely equal

-snip-

they ARE equal.
You just don't wanna face the truth becuz ur scared of it.
Just admit that ur misogynistic.
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Postby Terra-Novan Federation » Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:48 am

Incel Argentina wrote:
South Pacifican Kilendjj wrote:....
Bruh, it's so obvious
you admitted to hating women, that is really sexist, remember
women and men are completely equal

Oh, sure. I don't like them.

Women and men are not equal, even their vision is different. It's like homosapiens and neaterlands, they are humans but at the same time they quite are not like us. They think different, are weaker, have less emphaty, are treated different... They are not like us.

(they will not sleep with him)

Also that's pure insanity, women and men are, for the most part, identical.
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Postby Incel Argentina » Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:50 am

South Pacifican Kilendjj wrote:
Incel Argentina wrote:-snip-

they ARE equal.
You just don't wanna face the truth becuz ur scared of it.
Just admit that ur misogynistic.

Why would I be scared of women being normal? It's literally the good alternative, I wish I was wrong. But the proof seems to aim to the other one.
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Postby Kandorith » Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:52 am

Incel Argentina wrote:
South Pacifican Kilendjj wrote:....
Bruh, it's so obvious
you admitted to hating women, that is really sexist, remember
women and men are completely equal

Oh, sure. I don't like them.

Women and men are not equal, even their vision is different. It's like homosapiens and neaterlands, they are humans but at the same time they quite are not like us. They think different, are weaker, have less emphaty, are treated different... They are not like us.


That moment you can not even spell what you are comparing them to correctly...

Also lolwat?
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:52 am

Incel Argentina wrote:
South Pacifican Kilendjj wrote:....
Bruh, it's so obvious
you admitted to hating women, that is really sexist, remember
women and men are completely equal

Oh, sure. I don't like them.

Women and men are not equal, even their vision is different. It's like homosapiens and neaterlands, they are humans but at the same time they quite are not like us. They think different, are weaker, have less emphaty, are treated different... They are not like us.

Misogynist drivel, the same kind spouted by Tate.
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Postby South Pacifican Kilendjj » Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:52 am

Ifreann wrote:
Incel Argentina wrote:Oh, sure. I don't like them.

Women and men are not equal, even their vision is different. It's like homosapiens and neaterlands, they are humans but at the same time they quite are not like us. They think different, are weaker, have less emphaty, are treated different... They are not like us.

Misogynist drivel, the same kind spouted by Tate.

yeah
it's like incel argentina IS andrew tate...
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Postby Kandorith » Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:52 am

Incel Argentina wrote:
South Pacifican Kilendjj wrote:....
Bruh, it's so obvious
you admitted to hating women, that is really sexist, remember
women and men are completely equal

Oh, sure. I don't like them.

Women and men are not equal, even their vision is different. It's like homosapiens and neaterlands, they are humans but at the same time they quite are not like us. They think different, are weaker, have less emphaty, are treated different... They are not like us.


That moment you can not even spell what you are comparing them to correctly...

Also lolwat?

But yea keep thinking everything wrong with your life is because of women and not your sexist, misogynistic drivel.
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Postby Incel Argentina » Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:52 am

(they will not sleep with him)

No cap.

Also that's pure insanity, women and men are, for the most part, identical.

No, they are not. Humans are psychologically dimorphic animals.
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Argentina was long oppresed by feminism, that was until the incel movement decided to act... (just read my factbooks ffs, I'm too lazy to resume stuff)

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Postby South Pacifican Kilendjj » Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:54 am

Incel Argentina wrote:
(they will not sleep with him)

No cap.

Also that's pure insanity, women and men are, for the most part, identical.

-snip-

....
Women and men ARE equal.
I mean, do you not understand that?!
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:56 am

Incel Argentina wrote:
(they will not sleep with him)

No cap.

Also that's pure insanity, women and men are, for the most part, identical.

No, they are not. Humans are psychologically dimorphic animals.

Human biology does not remotely align with the simplistic misogyny of incels any more than it aligns with the equally gibberish beliefs of racists.
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Postby Terra-Novan Federation » Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:56 am

Incel Argentina wrote:
(they will not sleep with him)

No cap.

Also that's pure insanity, women and men are, for the most part, identical.

No, they are not. Humans are psychologically dimorphic animals.

Sure, hormones cause different emotional states and development, but not to the degree that you claim. Women are naturally shorter than men on average, but they aren't pure evil or less empathic. It's not a difference of "homosapiens and neaterlands" [sic]. Overall tho? Equal.
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Postby South Pacifican Kilendjj » Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:59 am

something really important that contributes to this thread, quoted by me (via tg) here is what I said:
I mean, I find it sad how I (a tweener) got tainted this young....
Already like about like a handful of classmates in my class are already tainted by this evil man...
And granted, I do not like andrew tate. I think he is evil and disgusting-
It is sad how people my age are getting tainted by him....
it honestly disturbs me...
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Postby Queen Yuno » Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:00 am

Guys, calm down!!!

But I did receive a telegram from one of the forumers on here who say they're a middle schooler and say all his classmates are Andrew Tate fans. Damn. That sucks.
Stop giving misogynistic abusers a platform. Anyone who sides with Tiktok Star Andrew Tate even 1% of what he says will be treated as enemy who should be shamed out of society. Impressions+Views+Videowatches=$. Nothing he says is new or revolutionary. I don't care if he said "some good stuff", it's still bad because: the more you watch him, the more ad revenue MONEY and algorithm BOOSTS you're giving him to traffick victims. And don't say the victim lied, a young man stupidly told me that the victim confessed to lying, I told em to link me proof, articles or the Audio of her confession, he googled and found 0 proof 0 articles, and he realized he was spreading fake rumors he heard and BELIEVED without fact-check. Don't brand victims as liars without GOOGLING. Debated here

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Postby Queen Yuno » Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:01 am

South Pacifican Kilendjj wrote:something really important that contributes to this thread, quoted by me (via tg) here is what I said:
I mean, I find it sad how I (a tweener) got tainted this young....
Already like about like a handful of classmates in my class are already tainted by this evil man...
And granted, I do not like andrew tate. I think he is evil and disgusting-
It is sad how people my age are getting tainted by him....
it honestly disturbs me...



Yup that's not good for the kids growing up in the west
Stop giving misogynistic abusers a platform. Anyone who sides with Tiktok Star Andrew Tate even 1% of what he says will be treated as enemy who should be shamed out of society. Impressions+Views+Videowatches=$. Nothing he says is new or revolutionary. I don't care if he said "some good stuff", it's still bad because: the more you watch him, the more ad revenue MONEY and algorithm BOOSTS you're giving him to traffick victims. And don't say the victim lied, a young man stupidly told me that the victim confessed to lying, I told em to link me proof, articles or the Audio of her confession, he googled and found 0 proof 0 articles, and he realized he was spreading fake rumors he heard and BELIEVED without fact-check. Don't brand victims as liars without GOOGLING. Debated here

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Postby Saiwania » Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:03 am

What I'm not clear on is: has Andrew Tate done anything or crossed a line too far as of yet, to enable a successful case/prosecution against him? Being an asshole by itself, isn't enough. I only see that he's toxic enough to be getting himself de-platformed from a lot of websites.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:09 am

Saiwania wrote:What I'm not clear on is: has Andrew Tate done anything or crossed a line too far as of yet, to enable a successful case/prosecution against him? Being an asshole by itself, isn't enough. I only see that he's toxic enough to be getting himself de-platformed from a lot of websites.

He's under investigation for a variety of crimes around sex trafficking, I believe. He openly stated that he moved to Romania because he believed them to be lax on prosecuting sexual assault, which alone would probably not secure a conviction but makes quite clear that he wants to assault women and get away with it.
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Postby Queen Yuno » Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:12 am

Saiwania wrote:What I'm not clear on is: has Andrew Tate done anything or crossed a line too far as of yet, to enable a successful case/prosecution against him? Being an asshole by itself, isn't enough. I only see that he's toxic enough to be getting himself de-platformed from a lot of websites.



Umm yeah. You can just google it. His human trafficking crimes and worse in Romania.

https://thesportsgrail.com/andrew-tate- ... can-woman/
https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/ ... k-new-star

But even if he hasn't done any of that, the propaganda is very unhealthy to be indoctrinating kids (and guys) with. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't want my kids or any of my male friends (or anyone I work with, or live near, or my politicians and policymakers and Voter base) watching his videos even if he isn't outed as committed these crimes.
Stop giving misogynistic abusers a platform. Anyone who sides with Tiktok Star Andrew Tate even 1% of what he says will be treated as enemy who should be shamed out of society. Impressions+Views+Videowatches=$. Nothing he says is new or revolutionary. I don't care if he said "some good stuff", it's still bad because: the more you watch him, the more ad revenue MONEY and algorithm BOOSTS you're giving him to traffick victims. And don't say the victim lied, a young man stupidly told me that the victim confessed to lying, I told em to link me proof, articles or the Audio of her confession, he googled and found 0 proof 0 articles, and he realized he was spreading fake rumors he heard and BELIEVED without fact-check. Don't brand victims as liars without GOOGLING. Debated here

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Postby Juristonia » Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:17 am

Incel Argentina wrote:I do go to the gym, and I'm fitter than at least 1/4 of my class. Plus the latest oneitis I had was like one and half heads shorter than me, had no jawline and honestly was quite fat. I guess I cared about her personality, unlike women do.

Then it must be your personality that's repelling women.
Can't imagine why..
Incel Argentina wrote:Oh, sure. I don't like them.

Women and men are not equal, even their vision is different. It's like homosapiens and neaterlands, they are humans but at the same time they quite are not like us. They think different, are weaker, have less emphaty, are treated different... They are not like us.

Quite a few people are not like you; Male or female.
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Postby Kathol Rift » Sat Aug 27, 2022 9:21 am

Incel Argentina wrote:
Theodores Tomfooleries wrote:Oh for fuck's sake. The incel argentina guy is here again. Just admit you're misogynistic and fuck off.

I'm not misogynistic, I don't hate women. I just dislike them, to hate would be if I constantly thought about them and wanted to eliminate them, I don't.

Pardon me, but did you not literally say earlier that you "hate those creatures." Were those not your exact words?
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