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Postby Major-Tom » Fri Dec 30, 2022 11:15 am

Happy to see they finally got the guy. Running a MLM scheme for incels is one thing, human trafficking is a whole other beast entirely and I can only hope the Romanian legal system actually litigates against him to the fullest extent of the law.

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Postby The Unknown Army » Fri Dec 30, 2022 12:19 pm

Humorous, I thought incels were above "redpilled self-help guru" bullshit.
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Postby Saiwania » Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:47 pm

Ifreann wrote:And they are getting Tate for human trafficking. Sai is just making shit up.


Information is, unreliable the more long distance it is. We typically have to wait to see what actually pans out as being true. If he's only being held for 30 days, the case is probably too weak and he'll flee Romania as soon as he's let go.
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Postby Andsed » Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:52 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:And they are getting Tate for human trafficking. Sai is just making shit up.


Information is, unreliable the more long distance it is. We typically have to wait to see what actually pans out as being true. If he's only being held for 30 days, the case is probably too weak and he'll flee Romania as soon as he's let go.

There is nothing unreliable about this Sai. Literally every official statement by the police and prosecutors have cited him being investigated for human trafficking's. And while he may be let out after 30 days that does not mean the investigation is over or that he can just leave unless he wants to become a fugitive on the run.
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Postby Heloin » Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:59 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:And they are getting Tate for human trafficking. Sai is just making shit up.


Information is, unreliable the more long distance it is.

Sai, do you not know where Romania is?

We typically have to wait to see what actually pans out as being true.

He’s been under intense investigation for months and was raided and arrested by armed police.

If he's only being held for 30 days, the case is probably too weak and he'll flee Romania as soon as he's let go.

That’s the single dumbest conclusion you can come to.

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Postby Juristonia » Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:05 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:And they are getting Tate for human trafficking. Sai is just making shit up.


Information is, unreliable the more long distance it is. We typically have to wait to see what actually pans out as being true. If he's only being held for 30 days, the case is probably too weak and he'll flee Romania as soon as he's let go.

This is all easily accessible information on every major network that's reporting on it, Sai.
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Postby Saiwania » Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:13 pm

Juristonia wrote:This is all easily accessible information on every major network that's reporting on it, Sai.
I know you're desperate for an alpha daddy who tells you how to live your life, but this is weird.


He is not someone I follow, because I don't care about what lifestyle scams he's selling. I'm skeptical nonetheless, about him being pinched over the old allegations from a year or more back. It won't be over that unless there is a huge new recent break/development I'm unaware of. I haven't found any local Romanian sources with a reliable translation just yet.

The people closest to Tate insist it is only over money laundering, whilst the larger media says it is human trafficking.
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Postby Juristonia » Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:19 pm

Gee, I wonder who could be telling the truth.

Every single reputable news agency in the world covering this.
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It's a headscratcher, alright.
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Ifreann wrote:Indeed, as far as I can recall only one poster has ever supported legalising bestiality, and he was fucking his cat and isn't welcome here any more, in no small part, I imagine, because he kept going on about how he was fucking his cat.

Cannot think of a name wrote:Anyway, I'm from gold country, we grow up knowing that when people jump up and down shouting "GOLD GOLD GOLD" the gold is gone and the only money to be made is in selling shovels.

And it seems to me that cryptocurrency and NFTs and such suddenly have a whooooole lot of shovel salespeople.

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Postby Heloin » Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:20 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Juristonia wrote:This is all easily accessible information on every major network that's reporting on it, Sai.
I know you're desperate for an alpha daddy who tells you how to live your life, but this is weird.


He is not someone I follow, because I don't care about what lifestyle scams he's selling. I'm skeptical nonetheless, about him being pinched over the old allegations from a year or more back. It won't be over that unless there is a huge new recent break/development I'm unaware of. I haven't found any local Romanian sources with a reliable translation just yet.

The people closest to Tate insist it is only over money laundering, whilst the larger media says it is human trafficking.
Heloin wrote:That he’s been under extended investigation for human trafficking in Romania and that Romanian prosecutors say he is being arrested because of their investigation of his alleged human trafficking in Romania is purely coincidental to his arrest in Romania.
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Postby Fahran » Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:20 pm

I will say that Andrew Tate being guilty of human trafficking isn't terribly surprising given his line of work. My operating assumption at the moment is that almost all men with power involved in the sex industry, including the production and distribution of pornography, especially in Eastern Europe, are guilty of multiple counts of sex-trafficking. This includes even the operators of brothels in places like Germany and the Netherlands. Horrible abuses are absolutely rife in the industry.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:26 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:And they are getting Tate for human trafficking. Sai is just making shit up.


Information is, unreliable the more long distance it is.

I know you long for the 40s, but it's 2022, and they do have the internet in Romania. We don't have to rely on word of mouth from Tate associates and colleagues.
We typically have to wait to see what actually pans out as being true. If he's only being held for 30 days, the case is probably too weak and he'll flee Romania as soon as he's let go.

You're just making shit up. You're just telling lies because for some reason you want this sex trafficking rapist to get away with it.

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Postby Saiwania » Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:26 pm

Fahran wrote:I will say that Andrew Tate being guilty of human trafficking isn't terribly surprising given his line of work. My operating assumption at the moment is that almost all men with power involved in the sex industry, including the production and distribution of pornography, especially in Eastern Europe, are guilty of multiple counts of sex-trafficking. This includes even the operators of brothels in places like Germany and the Netherlands. Horrible abuses are absolutely rife in the industry.


Is it a pure greed or corruption thing? You'd think that porn as an industry, is rich enough as to be able to find willing and cooperative adults who'll take on the risks of working that sort of job for the right price and amenities.
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Postby Dalavi » Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:29 pm

unpopular opinion: this whole argument is just stupid

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:30 pm

Fahran wrote:I will say that Andrew Tate being guilty of human trafficking isn't terribly surprising given his line of work. My operating assumption at the moment is that almost all men with power involved in the sex industry, including the production and distribution of pornography, especially in Eastern Europe, are guilty of multiple counts of sex-trafficking. This includes even the operators of brothels in places like Germany and the Netherlands. Horrible abuses are absolutely rife in the industry.

Tate's pitch to men about what an alpha he is, so they'll buy his courses on how to be an alpha or pay to join his "War Room", is that he "seduces" women so completely that they're all perfectly happy to be cam girls for his websites. Dude's basically been bragging openly for years about sex trafficking with the slightest veneer of it all being consensual and above board.

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Postby Cuba 2022 RP » Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:34 pm

I’m seeing rumours that he was released, but all the news stuff is saying he’s still in prison, and then there’s this:


So is he released or not? I’m confused
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Postby Dalavi » Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:35 pm

Cuba 2022 RP wrote:I’m seeing rumours that he was released, but all the news stuff is saying he’s still in prison, and then there’s this:


So is he released or not? I’m confused

he's "released" after the 30 days
and by that i mean he's let out from prison and such but most likely still under survelliance for likely 1-2 years
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Postby Stylan » Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:47 pm

So I'm hearing rumors that Tate might bring down a few other reactionary scumbugs with him.

Very interesting that its always the traditionalists who are exposed as pedos.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:49 pm

Dalavi wrote:
Cuba 2022 RP wrote:I’m seeing rumours that he was released, but all the news stuff is saying he’s still in prison, and then there’s this:

So is he released or not? I’m confused

he's "released" after the 30 days
and by that i mean he's let out from prison and such but most likely still under survelliance for likely 1-2 years

Probably he won't be released after 30 days. I would expect that he can be held for questioning without charge for up to 30 days, given that this is an organised crime investigation. While the Tate brothers and their two arrested associates are in custody, the police will have the chance to interview other members of their organisation and especially their victims and based on anything learned there, possibly press additional charges when the 30 days are up.

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Postby Alcala-Cordel » Fri Dec 30, 2022 2:50 pm


Finally, some good news. It's past time he was held accountable.
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Postby Katganistan » Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:38 pm

Perikuresu wrote:The internet is dunking on Tate for being arrested over a Pizza Box in a video where he was trying to cope over being ratioed and owned by Greta Thunberg of all people and GODDAMN is that hilarious.

Being held on rape and human trafficking charges are much less hilarious, I hope.

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Postby New-Minneapolis » Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:39 pm

It enrages me that right wingers that were calling LGBT pedophile groomers are either defending Tate, or doing a "What about Epstein's list?" soviet style whataboutism deflection.

The only thing that is stopping me from going back on Twitter to tell these folks to go fuck themselves is that I don't trust Musk with my data.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Fri Dec 30, 2022 3:40 pm

Dalavi wrote:
Cuba 2022 RP wrote:I’m seeing rumours that he was released, but all the news stuff is saying he’s still in prison, and then there’s this:

So is he released or not? I’m confused

he's "released" after the 30 days
and by that i mean he's let out from prison and such but most likely still under survelliance for likely 1-2 years

Consider: He's most likely getting charged during January.

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