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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:38 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:Passive income is any income you get in which you don’t get a salary for. Rent and stocks are both passive income sources. Passive doesn’t mean not working it means not collecting a salary as since if everything works well you can sit back and passively earn money


The problem is that most income sources don't work out well automatically. It isn't like collecting dividends or bank interest on a large/massive balance.

Rent is not passive in that you have to manage the property and all the bullshit that comes along with owning it, like doing repairs/maintenance and to pay the taxes and mortgage on it (if applicable). Stocks aren't passive because you have to do the research on corporate balance sheets and look at if its trajectory is good or bad. If your company goes obsolete, you'll probably lose your money in it over the long term. Apple went up, but Circuit City or JC Penny went downward until those places were gone or nearly gone.

Income which is passive in the truest sense of the word, is the most advantageous economic position possible, which is why it simply doesn't ever happen in real life more often than not. It may for a short time, but something along the way disrupts that without any actions on your part.

Harry Potter was a cash cow in its heyday, but once it became old news, its income obviously went down to reflect its new status as no longer #1 in its genre.

Again you completely missed the part where I said that passive doesn’t mean not working it means that you aren’t actively collecting a salary irrespective of how much work you put into it.

Passive income is a legal definition and doesn’t have anything to do with work
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Postby New-Minneapolis » Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:45 pm



And of course, the right wing, who accuse the LGBT community of grooming children, are defending Andrew Tate.

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Postby Saiwania » Thu Dec 29, 2022 9:51 pm

Thermodolia wrote:Again you completely missed the part where I said that passive doesn’t mean not working it means that you aren’t actively collecting a salary irrespective of how much work you put into it. Passive income is a legal definition and doesn’t have anything to do with work


If given a choice, why would people pick a job where you have to put in effort over a business model where you get money for doing nothing, once it is set up? Like if you have a fully automated factory churning out product/services you profit from, without any management/intervention on your part?

Most people who aren't trading time for money are able to earn more than salaried people. This is usually because of scale. The amount you can earn is capped by how much time you have to work for at what rate, which is finite strictly speaking. If you're only human, you'll lose productivity to sleep and other non-work needs.

If your earnings is instead commission based or from the share price in stock market, what you earn is only capped by how many people you can manage to sell to or by how well you can outsource the smaller processes to other people who're competent to reap the larger rewards generated.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:00 pm

Saiwania wrote:If your earnings is instead commission based or from the share price in stock market, what you earn is only capped by how many people you can manage to sell to or by how well you can outsource the smaller processes to other people who're competent to reap the larger rewards generated.

Yet again you don’t seem to understand how the stock market works or how it’s possible to get money from passive income.

You normally don’t make money in the stock market from just selling stock. You make it big by either shorting or investing enough to live off the interest.

In terms of renting you can totally live off of it. If you own say a quadplex with each unit having three rooms you can rent each unit out for about $2,500/m. That comes out to $120,000 a year for all units. Granted getting it there will take some work but all things require money
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Postby Celritannia » Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:03 pm

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Floofybit wrote:I don't get how anyone finds him entertaining. He's extremely boring to watch. Of all the times he has pulled up in my feed, I haven't seen any misogynistic posts, but just really, really, really annoying and unamusing "money tips"


He's speaking to gullible people who're desperate to make "passive" income work. Which doesn't really exist in the truest sense of the word, outside of inheriting a big fortune or winning the lottery. Most people are talking about entrepreneurial income or investment income when they say it is "passive" but really at the end of the day- that requires you to either put in work/effort to make that income materialize, or to already have significant capital to invest with, usually on the order of having $600,000+ minimum to possibly get a higher return than what you'll spend down. If sticking to 4% rule of retirement financing.

Whatever you want to live off of in 1 year, you'll need x20 at least, with that total x2 to fully account for inflation or any devaluing of money/assets.

Most influencers like Andrew Tate make money via selling "courses", and you the customer aren't going to come out ahead if you bought in- because your money is going directly to whoever is selling the course. You're not the one benefiting, outside of whether the advice/content purchased has real life utility or if it doesn't and its a pure scam/rip off.

As one example, if Andrew Tate got just 10,000 people to buy his product for $600, he can expect to pull in around $6,000,000 for that year. If he has a large fanbase cultivated, it can be much more or it matters not if only a small fraction of that audience is "suckered in" to buying from him, because the "grift" scales well if he is well known enough as to get some demand.


Andrew Tate's money comes from human trafficking and pyramid schemes.

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Got bitchslapped by a teenage girl and sent to prison. Big fat L for an "alpha male".
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Postby Celritannia » Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:18 pm

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Got bitchslapped by a teenage girl and sent to prison. Big fat L for an "alpha male".

I love the fact how his video retort is what got him caught.

One could say he was 8) Al Cap-owned.

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Postby Zeleniya » Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:26 pm

To celebrate this occasion, for my region's RP, I made this neat wanted poster where a fictionalized version of Tate is arrested.

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Postby The Unknown Army » Thu Dec 29, 2022 11:05 pm

Andrew Tate and "incel radicalization"? Did he overthrow Jordan Peterson or something?
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Indeed. Human traffickers belong behind bars.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Thu Dec 29, 2022 11:43 pm



Are there more details on the rape case? All of those tweets stating that Greta "just needed a dick inside her" sound a bit less like the writings of a pathetic loser and more like threats now to me...
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Postby Saiwania » Fri Dec 30, 2022 12:35 am

Allegedly, Andrew Tate's current arrest is only in relation to money laundering, which stemmed from €10 million Euros cash being found at his residence. His crypto wallets on Binance are being digged through. He will be held for an extended period of time, perhaps up to 40 days.
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Postby Emotional Support Crocodile » Fri Dec 30, 2022 12:43 am

And just when Musk had allowed him back on Twitter.
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Saiwania wrote:Allegedly, Andrew Tate's current arrest is only in relation to money laundering, which stemmed from €10 million Euros cash being found at his residence. His crypto wallets on Binance are being digged through. He will be held for an extended period of time, perhaps up to 40 days.

Well, he did say he moved to Romania "because you are less likely to be convicted of rape there" and that "while he was not a rapist, he liked the idea of being allowed to do what he wanted".

If your rumour is true however he kinda overlooked that the Romanians dislike moneylaundering :P

Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:And just when Musk had allowed him back on Twitter.

Which allegedly is how he was arrested - his replyvid to Greta showed a pizzabox of a Romanian chain; so the cops knew he was in the country.
But a lot of "allegedly" everywhere.
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Postby Page » Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:04 am

Ahhhh, that's some good-tasting Schadenfreude.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Fri Dec 30, 2022 1:57 am

Greta tweeted about the arrest:

this is what happens when you don’t recycle your pizza boxes

https://twitter.com/GretaThunberg/statu ... 0131849217

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The Alma Mater wrote:Greta tweeted about the arrest:

this is what happens when you don’t recycle your pizza boxes

https://twitter.com/GretaThunberg/statu ... 0131849217

Ouch.

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Postby Heloin » Fri Dec 30, 2022 4:20 am

Saiwania wrote:Allegedly, Andrew Tate's current arrest is only in relation to money laundering, which stemmed from €10 million Euros cash being found at his residence. His crypto wallets on Binance are being digged through. He will be held for an extended period of time, perhaps up to 40 days.

That he’s been under extended investigation for human trafficking in Romania and that Romanian prosecutors say he is being arrested because of their investigation of his alleged human trafficking in Romania is purely coincidental to his arrest in Romania.

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Postby Celritannia » Fri Dec 30, 2022 7:06 am

Saiwania wrote:Allegedly, Andrew Tate's current arrest is only in relation to money laundering, which stemmed from €10 million Euros cash being found at his residence. His crypto wallets on Binance are being digged through. He will be held for an extended period of time, perhaps up to 40 days.


No, it was about sex trafficking:

On December 29, 2022, Tate's villa was raided again, as well as the house of a former policewoman suspected of being involved.[62] Prosecutors stated that they had found and identified six women who were being sexually exploited by the suspects in various locations throughout Bucharest;[63][64] including being coerced into filming pornography.[65] Tate, his brother, the former policewoman, and an unnamed fourth Romanian individual were interrogated, and are being detained by DIICOT for 24 hours.[66][67][68] The four individuals are suspected of human trafficking, rape, and participation in an organized criminal group.[64][66] Prosecutors say all four "appear to have created an organised crime group with the purpose of recruiting, housing and exploiting women by forcing them to create pornographic content meant to be seen on specialised websites for a cost."[69]

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Postby Picairn » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:11 am

To add into the schadenfreude, Group of Experts on Action against Trafficking in Human Beings (GRETA), an organization belonging to the Council of Europe, urged Romania to crack down on human trafficking last year.

https://twitter.com/Esqueer_/status/160 ... ntNFw&s=19

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Postby Celritannia » Fri Dec 30, 2022 8:24 am

Picairn wrote:To add into the schadenfreude, Group of Experts on Action against Trafficking in Human Beings (GRETA), an organization belonging to the Council of Europe, urged Romania to crack down on human trafficking last year.

https://twitter.com/Esqueer_/status/160 ... ntNFw&s=19

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Postby Fifth harmony harmoniser nation » Fri Dec 30, 2022 9:09 am

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okay i think it is very good that andrew tate is arrested because his rampant incelship and misogyny and being a bad baka really took a toll on the internet. i'm not sure if i should be surprise at the reason of his arrest because i'd think that he'd be busy driving his lamborghini and contributing to climate change like taylor swift and her jet (co2 era!), or maybe educating 7th graders on how to live the most masculine manly manlihood (aka be a jerk to women and be an incel for big buck!). the allegations are pretty serious though so if they end up being true he needs to go to prison!

when he is in prison i hope he takes time to reflect on himself. i mean, in usual cases i'd be fixing him (becuz yk, i can fix him?) but i think he is the inly one who can fix himself so i hope he really does that. maybe when he gets released at the ripe old age of 57 he could become a conservative christian youtuber or something. not the best but better than what he is right now.

OKAY SOME SERIOSU AND REAL TALK THO i'm in shock of how many followers he has who're defending him and making greta look like a villain... like are you reading the room? my man andrew tried to size her up and provoke her, she clapped back (as she should) with the truth and he made a chicken response... is that the guy you're trying to defend? yeah maybe greta and her climate change activism might have some flaws or whatever but at least she's campaigning for an actual reasonable cause? unlike andrew who's activism includes instructions on HOW TO BE THE SIGMAMEST MALE". idrk why elon musk unbanned him and allowed him to gain another platform to do dumb shit... but then again if he wasn't unbanned we wouldn't have him putting on a clownish display as an early 2023 gift, as wel as the arrest...

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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:50 am

Saiwania wrote:Allegedly, Andrew Tate's current arrest is only in relation to money laundering, which stemmed from €10 million Euros cash being found at his residence. His crypto wallets on Binance are being digged through. He will be held for an extended period of time, perhaps up to 40 days.

So? They didn’t get Al Capone for his other crimes but for tax evasion.
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Dec 30, 2022 10:52 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Saiwania wrote:Allegedly, Andrew Tate's current arrest is only in relation to money laundering, which stemmed from €10 million Euros cash being found at his residence. His crypto wallets on Binance are being digged through. He will be held for an extended period of time, perhaps up to 40 days.

So? They didn’t get Al Capone for his other crimes but for tax evasion.

And they are getting Tate for human trafficking. Sai is just making shit up.

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