This video. In hindsight, it is about books specifically, but still highlights how much of an idiot he is.
https://youtube.com/shorts/PZu0bDpxiUs?feature=share
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by Kathol Rift » Sat Aug 27, 2022 2:04 pm
by Vassenor » Sat Aug 27, 2022 2:05 pm
Vivolkha wrote:The United Penguin Commonwealth wrote:Andrew Tate and people like him are a particular brand of evil. they see angry, vulnerable people and empower and embolden them merely to profit off of that anger, regardless of the harm it causes to people and society as a whole. they represent the worst effects of capitalism and belong in a deep circle of hell. I wouldn't solely blame them, though. the incels choose to believe in people like him; any fool could tell Tate's ideas are stupid by thinking about them for more than a few seconds. incels allow themselves to be taken advantage of because they don't want to reflect on their problems. people like Tate give them another option: take their anger out on society. it's society's fault, not theirs. it's an enticing but largely incorrect idea.
Even in an anti-capitalist society, I still think Andrew Tate wannabes would pop up all over the place. Also, without legitimizing their ideas, maybe we should look into why these "incels" are so angry (pre-radicalization). I believe there's definitely a genuine social issue here, that can be examined without being obfuscated by the mysogynistic terrorists it spawned.
by New Flyrinia » Sat Aug 27, 2022 2:13 pm
Vassenor wrote:Vivolkha wrote:Even in an anti-capitalist society, I still think Andrew Tate wannabes would pop up all over the place. Also, without legitimizing their ideas, maybe we should look into why these "incels" are so angry (pre-radicalization). I believe there's definitely a genuine social issue here, that can be examined without being obfuscated by the mysogynistic terrorists it spawned.
They’re angry because they exist at the crossroads between the old ideas that men are defined by their sexual conquests (thus leaving them dealing with feelings of inadequacy) and a belief that they are entitled to the use of womens’ bodies and reacting with anger at being denied that when a woman has the nerve to say no.
by Kathol Rift » Sat Aug 27, 2022 2:16 pm
New Flyrinia wrote:Vassenor wrote:
They’re angry because they exist at the crossroads between the old ideas that men are defined by their sexual conquests (thus leaving them dealing with feelings of inadequacy) and a belief that they are entitled to the use of womens’ bodies and reacting with anger at being denied that when a woman has the nerve to say no.
Me, as a man myself, think there should be a lot of education and teach men that women aren't property and incels get no bitches
by Vassenor » Sat Aug 27, 2022 2:17 pm
Kathol Rift wrote:New Flyrinia wrote:
Me, as a man myself, think there should be a lot of education and teach men that women aren't property and incels get no bitches
Incels are very aware of the fact that they get no bitches. The problem is that they blame that on women instead of their own insane ideals.
by American Legionaries » Sat Aug 27, 2022 2:29 pm
Kathol Rift wrote:New Flyrinia wrote:
Me, as a man myself, think there should be a lot of education and teach men that women aren't property and incels get no bitches
Incels are very aware of the fact that they get no bitches. The problem is that they blame that on women instead of their own insane ideals.
by Kathol Rift » Sat Aug 27, 2022 2:31 pm
by The Holy Therns » Sat Aug 27, 2022 2:34 pm
Kathol Rift wrote:The United Penguin Commonwealth wrote:
what??????
This video. In hindsight, it is about books specifically, but still highlights how much of an idiot he is.
https://youtube.com/shorts/PZu0bDpxiUs?feature=share
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by Iskanistan » Sat Aug 27, 2022 2:35 pm
Queen Yuno wrote:I'm not sure what's the demographic here. But all my male friends IRL (in the West) already know about Andrew Tate, the most googled British-American in recent times and it pisses me off. Even the Western and Asian guys in the west I know. Basically any young man on social media. Even the Tech Illiterate guys that I know, are claiming Tate said some good stuff because his FRIENDS exposed those views to him. Those male friend groups you know.
I tell one guy not to watch him.
He responds "I didn't intend to, I was browsing tiktok normally and tiktok pushed and flooded my entire feed with his videos. I never searched him up."
by Rusozak » Sat Aug 27, 2022 2:37 pm
by The Holy Therns » Sat Aug 27, 2022 2:40 pm
Gallade wrote:Love, cake, wine and banter. No greater meaning to life (〜^∇^)〜
Ethel mermania wrote:to therns is to transend the pettiness of the field of play into the field of dreams.
by Sordhau » Sat Aug 27, 2022 2:44 pm
by Kandorith » Sat Aug 27, 2022 2:46 pm
Rusozak wrote:That alone isn't what makes an incel. It's that coupled with a toxic personality and a mindset of blaming women for their lack of sexual activity.
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by The United Penguin Commonwealth » Sat Aug 27, 2022 4:00 pm
Vivolkha wrote:The United Penguin Commonwealth wrote:Andrew Tate and people like him are a particular brand of evil. they see angry, vulnerable people and empower and embolden them merely to profit off of that anger, regardless of the harm it causes to people and society as a whole. they represent the worst effects of capitalism and belong in a deep circle of hell. I wouldn't solely blame them, though. the incels choose to believe in people like him; any fool could tell Tate's ideas are stupid by thinking about them for more than a few seconds. incels allow themselves to be taken advantage of because they don't want to reflect on their problems. people like Tate give them another option: take their anger out on society. it's society's fault, not theirs. it's an enticing but largely incorrect idea.
Even in an anti-capitalist society, I still think Andrew Tate wannabes would pop up all over the place. Also, without legitimizing their ideas, maybe we should look into why these "incels" are so angry (pre-radicalization). I believe there's definitely a genuine social issue here, that can be examined without being obfuscated by the mysogynistic terrorists it spawned.
by Iskanistan » Sat Aug 27, 2022 4:01 pm
Queen Yuno wrote:Also this was a Popular Teachers thread from Reddit. I hope this further demonstrates the social contagion and dangers of Male Radicalization on Social Media, it screws with hardworking womenThe rise of Andrew Tate is ruining my freshman boys
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Have y’all heard of a sexist, misogynistic, disgusting excuse of human being known as Andrew Tate?
Well, I promise you all your middle school & high school boys have & they’re addicted to his content. Just this week I had to have 6 convos with families about their sons saying shit like “women are inferior to men” “women belong in the kitchen Ms____”.
Not only are they making these misogynistic claims in class but are literally refusing to do assignments if it’s sourced from a woman….I had three boys refuse to read an article by a female author because “women should only be housewives”. But when I say “I’m a teacher and here teaching you” the cognitive dissonance kicks in and they start saying “yah but teaching is a woman’s job”…??!?
5/6 parents (all mothers) were mortified when I discussed their comments. The other 1 dad said “we’ll he isn’t wrong”. 2 are immigrant mothers and they cried on the phone when I shared a video of Andrew Tate that their sons kept referencing & translated the content to them. And this particular videos was talking about his webcaming “business” (ie human trafficking women).
Y’all. It’s been only 2 weeks of school & these young boys are losing it. I’ve never heard such vitriol from young boys since this Andrew Tate guy came on the scene.
This rise of incel and misogynistic rhetoric is terrifying.
by Cannot think of a name » Sat Aug 27, 2022 4:04 pm
by The United Penguin Commonwealth » Sat Aug 27, 2022 4:08 pm
Iskanistan wrote:Queen Yuno wrote:Also this was a Popular Teachers thread from Reddit. I hope this further demonstrates the social contagion and dangers of Male Radicalization on Social Media, it screws with hardworking women
Are there other sources than an odd reddit post by an deleted account that this is becoming a widespread thing?
by Iskanistan » Sat Aug 27, 2022 4:11 pm
The United Penguin Commonwealth wrote:Iskanistan wrote:
Are there other sources than an odd reddit post by an deleted account that this is becoming a widespread thing?
in 2017, there were 40,000 members of r/incel (before it was shut down). that probably means the number of self-identified incels was much higher, possibly upwards of 400,000. it's impossible to tell for sure.
by The United Penguin Commonwealth » Sat Aug 27, 2022 4:13 pm
Iskanistan wrote:The United Penguin Commonwealth wrote:
in 2017, there were 40,000 members of r/incel (before it was shut down). that probably means the number of self-identified incels was much higher, possibly upwards of 400,000. it's impossible to tell for sure.
Is Andrew Tate even an Incel?
A quick search doesnt seems to suggest so.
by Iskanistan » Sat Aug 27, 2022 4:19 pm
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by Prima Scriptura » Sat Aug 27, 2022 7:57 pm
Incel Argentina wrote:As an incel, I can confirm we do NOT asociate with Tate. The redpill crowd is just almost as bad as the bluepill (or, lord forgive me for saying this name, IncelTear's). Do not make us guilty of everything bad that happens to women, if we did the same we would be seen as absolute lunatics by even our redpilled comrades.
by Forsher » Sat Aug 27, 2022 8:05 pm
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