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Solution to the S-C-K confusion?

Leave everything as is. Let us embrace the chaos, the khaos, and the shaos like madmen!
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47%
Remove the letter C. Problem solved, day saved, hands shaked, babies kissed.
8
12%
Ditch the ugly K for the beautiful C and drop C's nasty 'S' sound.
5
8%
Remove the letter S and have C pick up the slack, drop it's 'K' sound.
1
2%
Drop both S and K so that C can use both sounds, like a true sociopath would suggest.
1
2%
As an absolute maniac I can only propose that the letter K be given both S and C's duties as the two are exiled to Death Valley.
1
2%
Psychopath here. Give S the 'K' sound and get rid of those other two clowns.
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No votes
ABOLISH ALL THREE LETTERS FOR MAXIMUM INSANITY
1
2%
I don't care what we do so long as we bring back Þorn!
18
27%
 
Total votes : 66

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New Eestiball
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Postby New Eestiball » Wed Aug 24, 2022 1:12 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:https://www.dictionary.com/e/silent-letters-in-english/

We can do away with all the letters in English since they do not get pronounced. Except for V.

Vvvv vvv!

Nah keep the O and A too.

Then I can say Va Va Voom

Where be the M originating?
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Aug 24, 2022 6:32 pm

New Eestiball wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Nah keep the O and A too.

Then I can say Va Va Voom

Where be the M originating?

Oh good point, keep the M to. And while your at it let’s keep the S, D, I, C, & K
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Forsher
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New York Times Democracy

Postby Forsher » Wed Aug 24, 2022 10:38 pm

The United Penguin Commonwealth wrote:
Forsher wrote:
Pray, tell, how would we spell "choice" in this brave new world?


simple. tshoise. tʃoise if you're more extreme, and khoise if you're a psychopath.


Not so simple for the other c in choice is to distinguish pronunciation of choice from poise. tshoiss, possibly.

And in one word, this why spelling reform just makes English orthography more complex.

But also colour reflects pronunciation better than color.
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Vikanias
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Postby Vikanias » Wed Aug 24, 2022 10:41 pm

“Omg remove C it’s the same as K and S” Mf’s when they find out about ch
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Mushroom Gorge
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Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby Mushroom Gorge » Wed Aug 24, 2022 10:46 pm

Vikanias wrote:“Omg remove C it’s the same as K and S” Mf’s when they find out about ch

It would be better to cange it to a "ch" sound whic is what parts of the international kommunity uses
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Postby Emotional Support Crocodile » Mon Aug 29, 2022 2:13 am

I came across this in a book I am reading - Shavian, created by a bequest from George Bernard Shaw who hated the irregularities of English spelling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shavian_alphabet

Also mentioned in the same book, Reading in the brain by Stanislas Dehaene, is this joke


The European Union commissioners have announced that agreement
has been reached to adopt English as the preferred language for European
communications, rather than German, which was the other possibility.

As part of the negotiations, Her Majesty's Government
conceded that English spelling had some room for improvement and has accepted
a five-year phased plan for what will be known as EuroEnglish (Euro for
short).

In the first year, "s"
will be used instead of the soft "c".
Sertainly, sivil servants will resieve this news with joy.

Also, the hard "c"
will be replaced with "k".
Not only will this klear up konfusion, but typewriters kan have one less
letter.

There will be growing publik emthusiasm in the sekond
year, when the troublesome "ph"
will be replaced by "f".
This will make words like "fotograf" 20 per sent shorter.

In the third year, publik akseptanse of the new spelling
kan be expekted to reach the stage where more komplikated changes are possible.

Governments will enkorage the removal of double letters,
which have always ben a deterent to akurate speling. Also, al wil agre
that the horible mes of silent "e"s
in the languag is disgrasful, and they would go.

By the fourth year, peopl wil be reseptiv to steps such
as replasing "th" by "z"
and "w" by "v"
.

During ze fifz year, ze unesesary "o"
kan be dropd from vords kontaining "ou",
and similar changes vud of kors be aplid to ozer kombinations of leters.

After zis fifz yer, ve vil hav a reli sensibl riten styl.
Zer vil be no mor trubls or difikultis and evrivun vil find it ezi tu understand
ech ozer.
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Forsher
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Postby Forsher » Mon Aug 29, 2022 3:27 am

Emotional Support Crocodile wrote:I came across this in a book I am reading - Shavian, created by a bequest from George Bernard Shaw who hated the irregularities of English spelling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shavian_alphabet


Phonetic spelling reforms are dialectal imperialism. As an illustrative example, Alan and Ellen are pronounced the same way in NZ, but they're not generally regarded as homophones. Whatchu gonna do phonetic reformers?
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The United Penguin Commonwealth
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Postby The United Penguin Commonwealth » Mon Aug 29, 2022 6:05 am

Forsher wrote:
The United Penguin Commonwealth wrote:
simple. tshoise. tʃoise if you're more extreme, and khoise if you're a psychopath.


Not so simple for the other c in choice is to distinguish pronunciation of choice from poise. tshoiss, possibly.

And in one word, this why spelling reform just makes English orthography more complex.


poise would be spelled poiz.

But also colour reflects pronunciation better than color.


in a perfect world, we kould remove all vowels other than a (ah), e (eh), i (iy), o (oh), and u (oo), and maybe leave some diphthongs if we really wanted to.

in a slightly less perfect world, we kould remove some vowels and replase others with aksented (axented?) versions to make it klearer how they are pronounsed.
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