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Solution to the S-C-K confusion?

Leave everything as is. Let us embrace the chaos, the khaos, and the shaos like madmen!
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Remove the letter C. Problem solved, day saved, hands shaked, babies kissed.
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Ditch the ugly K for the beautiful C and drop C's nasty 'S' sound.
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Remove the letter S and have C pick up the slack, drop it's 'K' sound.
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Drop both S and K so that C can use both sounds, like a true sociopath would suggest.
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2%
As an absolute maniac I can only propose that the letter K be given both S and C's duties as the two are exiled to Death Valley.
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Psychopath here. Give S the 'K' sound and get rid of those other two clowns.
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ABOLISH ALL THREE LETTERS FOR MAXIMUM INSANITY
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I don't care what we do so long as we bring back Þorn!
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Saecar Kalad

Postby Sordhau » Sun Aug 21, 2022 1:51 pm

Ah, the English language. It's just horrible, isn't it? Yes, that's right reader, it's Sordhau back again with another thread to discuss the intricacies of how utterly redundant and idiotic the English language is and how it frankly should be fixed. This time we're paying extra special attention to three little letters in close relation to one another: S, C, and K.

We all know the sounds they make. S makes the S sound, K makes the K sound, but C... C makes both. Now if there was ever anything in the English language that didn't make a lick of sense, it'd be that. Why the ever-loving fuck do we have a letter that exists purely to replicate the sound of two other letters? Why not just use those letters? Because English is stupid. It is a stupid, horrible language. Once again I will blame the Normans. Is it their fault? Probably not, but I need somebody to blame and the Normans are all dead anyway so fuck 'em. They get to be the scapegoats. Screw you, Billy the Bastard. Go back to Rouen ya French viking.

Perhaps the dumbest part of this whole ordeal, though, is that S shouldn't even be mixed up in this nonsense in the first place. Why? Because as Romaboos, Latin speakers, and anyone whose played Fallout: New Vegas will tell you: the letter 'C' in the original Latin makes the 'K' sound. Yes, that's right, billions of people have been pronouncing "Caesar", "century", etc. wrong this whole time. Romulus weeps as he spins in his grave. The Greek "Herakles" thus becomes the Latin "Hercules", and so on and so forth. To make things worse the letter 'K' is actually an import into English that did not come with the original introduction of the Latin alphabet. The Anglo-Saxons, already using 'C' to represent the 'K' sound, were wise enough to look down upon the letter K and it's redundancy - mocking the Greeks and their inferior symbols (Greek alphabet is actually way cooler tbh) and rejecting the heretical implications of the letter K. But at some point in time this changed; don't ask me when, or why, or how because all I'm gonna do is blame the Normans again. Yes, it's probably not their fault--the French, after all, don't use the letter 'K' either--but I need *someone* to blame damn it! And the Normans suck anyway, nobody likes them. Bunch of Value Brand viking LARPers smdh.

All this just begs the question(s) of why C can make an 'S' sound and why K was brought into English when the 'K' sound was already represented by the letter C. Truthfully, though, I don't particularly care for the answers to those questions. It doesn't matter how the arrow was lodged into your knee, ending your adventuring career for good in the process. What matters is that if you intend to pursue your secondary dream of being a city guardsman you must have it surgically removed! And so it is with this confounding conundrum that is the English language that the cancerous tumors riddling it's lexicon, orthography, alphabet, and other big words I forgot the meaning of and am too lazy to look up in the dictionary must be surgically removed! The question therefor is how to best go about it? Removing C seems to be the most straight-forward process. However, the letter C is also much more aesthetically pleasing than K so maybe we should ditch K and drop the 'S' sound for C instead? What say ye, NSG? How shall we fix the disgusting English language before it ushers in the ruin of human civilization as we know it?
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Postby Thermodolia » Sun Aug 21, 2022 1:53 pm

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Postby Vavlar » Sun Aug 21, 2022 1:53 pm

Better than Nevertopia's thread which is non-sense.

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Postby Mestovakia » Sun Aug 21, 2022 1:58 pm

Sordhau wrote:How shall we fix the disgusting English language before it ushers in the ruin of human civilization as we know it?


"Don't worry, English Language. You're beautiful no matter what they say."
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:11 pm

You are just K shaming. Terrible, just Terrible.


i did enjoy the rant though,
thanks
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Postby Nilokeras » Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:11 pm

if you want a perfect, logical language go join the Esperantists in their walled garden. Otherwise come to terms with the fact that languages are evolving things that often contain contradictions.

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Postby Great Heathen Air Force » Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:27 pm

Next you'll be telling me that the th in "the" and the th in "thing" aren't the same.
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Postby Settho » Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:29 pm

English is the most widely spoken language in the world! People have voted with their feet. Or mouths.

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Postby Kannap » Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:41 pm

Great Heathen Air Force wrote:Next you'll be telling me that the th in "the" and the th in "thing" aren't the same.


Oh buddy
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Postby Kannap » Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:42 pm

Actually, we need to crowdfund more letters than are pronounced like K, S, or both. At least, if we're going to change things. My first vote is to keep things as they are.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Sun Aug 21, 2022 4:44 pm

Kannap wrote:Actually, we need to crowdfund more letters than are pronounced like K, S, or both. At least, if we're going to change things. My first vote is to keep things as they are.

I voted for the porn.
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Postby Page » Sun Aug 21, 2022 9:59 pm

Remove c, x, and q, even though it's going to take a while to get used to seks.
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Postby New Eestiball » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:03 pm

Just scrap everything and use the phonetic alphabet but only for those 3 letters.
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Postby Nipponkyo » Sun Aug 21, 2022 10:41 pm

Many Westerners don't appreciate how difficult of a language English really is to learn. It is very chaotic when compared to some other languages. If you grew up speaking English, or a language related to English, count yourself lucky, for the most useful language in the world has come easy to you.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sun Aug 21, 2022 11:05 pm

I wonder how the OP will react to that fact that "Cockburn" is actually pronounced "Coburn" as the "ck" is silent

Also, "s" is sometimes pronounced as "z", for example, "scissors", "rationalise" "houses" etc. This is less so the case in American English than other versions of English, but it's still the case, even in American English
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Postby -Astoria- » Mon Aug 22, 2022 2:23 am

Settho wrote:English is the most widely spoken language in the world! People have voted with their feet. Or mouths.

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K
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Postby Forsher » Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:25 am

Okay, so this was not a biography thread.

And that I thought Saecar Kalad was a person is exactly why this is like ghoti and therefore nonsense.

Also:

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That it Could be What it Is, Is What it Is

Stop making shit up, though. Links, or it's a God-damn lie and you know it.

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Postby Forsher » Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:27 am

Great Heathen Air Force wrote:Next you'll be telling me that the th in "the" and the th in "thing" aren't the same.


The the in the isn't even the same the as in the.
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Stop making shit up, though. Links, or it's a God-damn lie and you know it.

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Postby The Blaatschapen » Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:36 am

Forsher wrote:
Great Heathen Air Force wrote:Next you'll be telling me that the th in "the" and the th in "thing" aren't the same.


The the in the isn't even the same the as in the.


Duh.
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Postby Page » Mon Aug 22, 2022 6:54 am

Nipponkyo wrote:Many Westerners don't appreciate how difficult of a language English really is to learn. It is very chaotic when compared to some other languages. If you grew up speaking English, or a language related to English, count yourself lucky, for the most useful language in the world has come easy to you.


I do. I can speak just enough German for every day life and German has way less nonsense, minus articles. And I know like 100 Spanish words. School really didn't stick.
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