by GuessTheAltAccount » Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:11 pm
Bombadil wrote:My girlfriend wanted me to treat her like a princess, so I arranged for her to be married to a stranger to strengthen our alliance with Poland.
by Nipponkyo » Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:17 pm
by GuessTheAltAccount » Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:23 pm
Nipponkyo wrote:Such investigations can be very difficult. Especially these days when anyone with even mediocre level of tech knowledge can do a decent job of covering their tracks online if they wanted to. VPNs, proxy servers, encrypted browsers, etc. are all easily accessible and easy to use these days.
Bombadil wrote:My girlfriend wanted me to treat her like a princess, so I arranged for her to be married to a stranger to strengthen our alliance with Poland.
by THE Grob » Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:23 pm
GuessTheAltAccount wrote:https://globalnews.ca/news/9068032/twitch-streamer-trans-woman-clara-sorrenti-keffals-doxxed-again/
These creepy stalkers weren't content to falsely frame a Twitch streamer, as threatening politicians, to drive from her home. They doxxed her at her hotel now too.
How the hell are the police; or CSIS if need be; not able to trace, identify, and publish the names and faces of the perpetrators of this shit? Didn't we give them extremely broad snooping powers a few years ago? I seem to recall a politician saying of it "either you are with us, or you are with the child pornographers." 36 million people endorsed that statement by not distancing themselves from it. So what's the point of those damn snooping powers if you can't even use them for something as seemingly straightforward as tracking down and doxxing doxxers and slanderers? Is there any reason not to give these creeps a taste of their own medicine?
by Jabberwocky » Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:23 pm
by Katganistan » Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:23 pm
by Sordhau » Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:26 pm
Katganistan wrote:No.
People should not be harassed and placed in danger.
by GuessTheAltAccount » Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:26 pm
Katganistan wrote:No.
People should not be harassed and placed in danger.
Bombadil wrote:My girlfriend wanted me to treat her like a princess, so I arranged for her to be married to a stranger to strengthen our alliance with Poland.
by GuessTheAltAccount » Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:27 pm
Aethertia wrote:Of course not. That would sink us down to their level.
Bombadil wrote:My girlfriend wanted me to treat her like a princess, so I arranged for her to be married to a stranger to strengthen our alliance with Poland.
by Hatshepsut » Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:28 pm
by GuessTheAltAccount » Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:31 pm
Hatshepsut wrote:If all doxxers should be doxxed then the people who doxx the doxxers, who have thus become doxxers themselves, should also need to be doxxed.
Which seems self defeating if your goal is to prevent people from being doxxed.
Not to mention that laypeople doxxing doxxers sounds like internet vigilantism to me, and that never ends well.
Bombadil wrote:My girlfriend wanted me to treat her like a princess, so I arranged for her to be married to a stranger to strengthen our alliance with Poland.
by Sordhau » Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:32 pm
Hatshepsut wrote:If all doxxers should be doxxed then the people who doxx the doxxers, who have thus become doxxers themselves, should also need to be doxxed.
Which seems self defeating if your goal is to prevent people from being doxxed.
Not to mention that laypeople doxxing doxxers sounds like internet vigilantism to me, and that never ends well.
by Hatshepsut » Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:35 pm
GuessTheAltAccount wrote:But this idea that giving someone a taste of their own medicine makes us no different than them is pushing it.
by Gallia- » Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:38 pm
by Sordhau » Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:41 pm
by Nipponkyo » Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:44 pm
GuessTheAltAccount wrote:Nipponkyo wrote:Such investigations can be very difficult. Especially these days when anyone with even mediocre level of tech knowledge can do a decent job of covering their tracks online if they wanted to. VPNs, proxy servers, encrypted browsers, etc. are all easily accessible and easy to use these days.
Then we need regulations that ensure VPNs only cover the tracks of people communicating through dictatorships like China, while still being traceable to police services in democratic countries, investigating actual harassment or the framing of people as uttering threats they didn't actually utter.
by Hatshepsut » Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:53 pm
Sordhau wrote:Depends on how bad the thing was. Torturing someone is always wrong no matter what they did. There is nothing inherently immoral about executing an unrepentant mass-murderer, however.
by Gallia- » Fri Aug 19, 2022 1:59 pm
Hatshepsut wrote:Sordhau wrote:Depends on how bad the thing was. Torturing someone is always wrong no matter what they did. There is nothing inherently immoral about executing an unrepentant mass-murderer, however.
A doxxer is not a mass-murderer.
When a mass-murderer is executed it is often after a lengthy trial, prison stay, and appeal process, and the mass-murderers friends and family are not then also executed.
If you doxx a doxxer you are not just submitting a doxxer to bullying and harrassment, you are also submitting everyone who lives with them to bullying and harrassment; this includes their children, if they have any.
by Juristonia » Fri Aug 19, 2022 2:05 pm
Katganistan wrote:No.
People should not be harassed and placed in danger.
Liriena wrote:Say what you will about fascists: they are remarkably consistent even after several decades of failing spectacularly elsewhere.
Ifreann wrote:Indeed, as far as I can recall only one poster has ever supported legalising bestiality, and he was fucking his cat and isn't welcome here any more, in no small part, I imagine, because he kept going on about how he was fucking his cat.
Cannot think of a name wrote:Anyway, I'm from gold country, we grow up knowing that when people jump up and down shouting "GOLD GOLD GOLD" the gold is gone and the only money to be made is in selling shovels.
And it seems to me that cryptocurrency and NFTs and such suddenly have a whooooole lot of shovel salespeople.
by Spanish Inquisitors » Fri Aug 19, 2022 2:06 pm
Gallia- wrote:If you dox a doxer you're exposing them to things that doxing exposes people to? Shocking.
Tit for tat is the oldest legal principle in history.
by Sordhau » Fri Aug 19, 2022 2:09 pm
Hatshepsut wrote:Sordhau wrote:Depends on how bad the thing was. Torturing someone is always wrong no matter what they did. There is nothing inherently immoral about executing an unrepentant mass-murderer, however.
A doxxer is not a mass-murderer.
When a mass-murderer is executed it is often after a lengthy trial, prison stay, and appeal process, and the mass-murderers friends and family are not then also executed.
If you doxx a doxxer you are not just submitting a doxxer to bullying and harrassment, you are also submitting everyone who lives with them to bullying and harrassment; this includes their children, if they have any.
by Juristonia » Fri Aug 19, 2022 2:12 pm
Sordhau wrote:Hatshepsut wrote:A doxxer is not a mass-murderer.
When a mass-murderer is executed it is often after a lengthy trial, prison stay, and appeal process, and the mass-murderers friends and family are not then also executed.
If you doxx a doxxer you are not just submitting a doxxer to bullying and harrassment, you are also submitting everyone who lives with them to bullying and harrassment; this includes their children, if they have any.
Yeah, it's almost like actions have consequences. Funny how that works.
Liriena wrote:Say what you will about fascists: they are remarkably consistent even after several decades of failing spectacularly elsewhere.
Ifreann wrote:Indeed, as far as I can recall only one poster has ever supported legalising bestiality, and he was fucking his cat and isn't welcome here any more, in no small part, I imagine, because he kept going on about how he was fucking his cat.
Cannot think of a name wrote:Anyway, I'm from gold country, we grow up knowing that when people jump up and down shouting "GOLD GOLD GOLD" the gold is gone and the only money to be made is in selling shovels.
And it seems to me that cryptocurrency and NFTs and such suddenly have a whooooole lot of shovel salespeople.
by Gallia- » Fri Aug 19, 2022 2:16 pm
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