American Politics XIV: The Dawning of the Age of the Pumpkin

[The Black Forrest]

Yes, she was, and is a member of the Federalist Society. And likely there is but he ain't going to admit to that, at least, not now until he blows that. But I feel she's protecting him because he was a former President, and for some reason, former Presidents have greater protections. I get in some cases there needs to be leniency but she has given him the world.

But the DOJ can continue its criminal investigation, which is the big one. These are mere obstacles she and Trump are putting up.

Trump I feel will try to claim Executive Privilege on a lot of documents, including classified information but it won't work. But yes, you are right on that: it's not his property either way, which the law is clear about.

Nah, she is protecting him because she supports him politically.

If that is the case, she has to be removed.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

only in america do you get completely partial judges that are not fired.

[The Black Forrest]

only in america do you get completely partial judges that are not fired.

You really have to love this era.

[Prima Scriptura]

Nah, she is protecting him because she supports him politically.

If that is the case, she has to be removed.

Yeah, good luck with that.

[San Lumen]

https://thehill.com/policy/3666954-new- ... s-in-2035/

New York to mandate zero-emission vehicles in 2035

[El Lazaro]

I cannot wait for Trump and DeSantis to start talking shit about each other in public. It’s already happening in private and it’s being reported on the mainstream news. I still don’t know why Trump fat shames DeSantis, when the mother fucker is no slim Jim of the bone yard either.

Fascist insults are projection, which is why they like calling their opponents degenerates. What they hate about others and praise themselves for is what threatens their own self-esteem. It’s a narcissistic defense mechanism weaponized for politics. That being said, it’s sad to see the mildly homoerotic (SFW, don’t worry) Trump-DeSantis friendship fall apart.

[Prima Scriptura]

I cannot wait for Trump and DeSantis to start talking shit about each other in public. It’s already happening in private and it’s being reported on the mainstream news. I still don’t know why Trump fat shames DeSantis, when the mother fucker is no slim Jim of the bone yard either.

Fascist insults are projection, which is why they like calling their opponents degenerates. What they hate about others and praise themselves for is what threatens their own self-esteem. It’s a narcissistic defense mechanism weaponized for politics. That being said, it’s sad to see the mildly homoerotic (SFW, don’t worry) Trump-DeSantis friendship fall apart.

Sort of like how right-wing incels claim to hate victim mentally when they engage in it to an extreme extent?

[The Black Forrest]

If that is the case, she has to be removed.

Yeah, good luck with that.

Oh I am not going to worry. I am not in a position to do that.....

[San Lumen]

https://thehill.com/homenews/wire/36676 ... an-6-riot/

Romance novel cover model pleads guilty to assaulting police at Jan. 6 riot

[The Black Forrest]

https://thehill.com/homenews/wire/3667694-romance-novel-cover-model-pleads-guilty-to-assaulting-police-at-jan-6-riot/

Romance novel cover model pleads guilty to assaulting police at Jan. 6 riot

Not sure why the book cover thing is of any significance. Have not found a source to how many. Fabio for example has been used on a ton.

Anyway. Dragged a cop? That's the tattooed cop I have seen on CNN. Listening to the cop talk about it? Screw the guy. Hope he has a horrible time in prison.

[Saiwania]

https://thehill.com/policy/3666954-new-york-to-mandate-zero-emission-vehicles-in-2035/

New York to mandate zero-emission vehicles in 2035

They'll end up repealing that if electric vehicles are still too expensive then. The cheapest new gas powered car is just under $15,000. It's no trivial amount to cover, so most people buy used vehicles that have depreciated by a lot. There is no vast supply of EVs out there. The vehicles that aren't owned outright are all on payment plans.

The emissions spared from not using fossil fuel engines is usually unfortunately offset, by power companies using more such fuel to generate the electricity for EVs and the energy being used to extract more exotic materials and metals to produce EV batteries/technology.

The typical arrangement is that you buy a vehicle if you need one, but lose money on it over time because it's a liability that is a money pit, because it needs occasional repair and consumables like tires; asides from insurance/fees.

You drive it until it stops working or if you want to switch to another. You're luckier if it has even kept most of it's value.

[Greater Miami Shores 3]

I cannot wait for Trump and DeSantis to start talking shit about each other in public. It’s already happening in private and it’s being reported on the mainstream news. I still don’t know why Trump fat shames DeSantis, when the mother fucker is no slim Jim of the bone yard either.

Fascist insults are projection, which is why they like calling their opponents degenerates. What they hate about others and praise themselves for is what threatens their own self-esteem. It’s a narcissistic defense mechanism weaponized for politics. That being said, it’s sad to see the mildly homoerotic (SFW, don’t worry) Trump-DeSantis friendship fall apart.

President Trump is Praising Ron DeSantis at a Trump rally, awesome, you talk about Republicans calling Democrats degenerates and Biden addressed the nation calling Republican Trump Supporters, a threat to democracy, Fascist Nazis, which is the same evil thing, so you use the Leftist Democrats Talking Points you learned in the Leftist Media by calling us Fascist Nazis, which obviously we are not Fascist Nazis.

[Cannot think of a name]

American schools definitely aren't. The American education system is designed from the top-down to turn people into hypersocialised drones

Certainly schools as they exist today are an institution under capitalism intended to serve capitalism, but between well-intentioned teachers and parents there has always been a push for schools for schools to teach things beyond the basic skills an employer wants. They aren't just worker drone factories.

For whatever it's worth it was a high school history teacher that hipped me to how the active promotion of the protestant work ethic helped create a self exploiting workforce.

[Not Not Forsher]

Certainly schools as they exist today are an institution under capitalism intended to serve capitalism, but between well-intentioned teachers and parents there has always been a push for schools for schools to teach things beyond the basic skills an employer wants. They aren't just worker drone factories.

For whatever it's worth it was a high school history teacher that hipped me to how the active promotion of the protestant work ethic helped create a self exploiting workforce.

That whole idea just seems insane to me and completely theologically backwards. Your fate is predestined ipso facto it doesn't matter what you do. Protestantism is a call to laziness.

[Cannot think of a name]

https://thehill.com/policy/3666954-new-york-to-mandate-zero-emission-vehicles-in-2035/

New York to mandate zero-emission vehicles in 2035

They'll end up repealing that if electric vehicles are still too expensive then. The cheapest new gas powered car is just under $15,000. It's no trivial amount to cover, so most people buy used vehicles that have depreciated by a lot. There is no vast supply of EVs out there. The vehicles that aren't owned outright are all on payment plans.

The emissions spared from not using fossil fuel engines is usually unfortunately offset, by power companies using more such fuel to generate the electricity for EVs and the energy being used to extract more exotic materials and metals to produce EV batteries/technology.

Who told you that and why do you believe them?

The current BEV under current (but changing) manufacturing conditions does have a larger footprint upon manufacture but depending on how your local power is generated but generally around 14,000 miles the BEV has offset its manufacturing footprint vs an ICE car.
@20% of US energy production is coal. 38% each comes from either natural gas or nuclear/renewables/hydro. Even from plants that use 'dirty' sources, a central single stationary generator is cleaner than small individually maintained generators in the end product. So even if an BEV is getting all of its electricity from a coal plant (an unlikely scenario) it'd still be cleaner.

The typical arrangement is that you buy a vehicle if you need one, but lose money on it over time because it's a liability that is a money pit, because it needs occasional repair and consumables like tires; asides from insurance/fees.

You drive it until it stops working or if you want to switch to another. You're luckier if it has even kept most of it's value.

Aside from the fact that a small subset of people drive their cars to the grave before buying a new one...

A quick search of the ol' Craigslist turns up just under 600 used BEVs for sale. Granted at this point most of them are Teslas that are stubbornly holding their value because Tesla has has the market to itself for a while. By 2035 that will be over a decade of Tesla having substantial competition from other manufacturers. But there are some Bolts in there and Golfs for under 20K and the Bolt gives out a decent 200 mile range.

Part of the problem, and it's holding up the implementation of battery recycling is the batteries are not going bad at the rate even the manufacturers predicted, never mind the nattering neighbobs of negativity. Nissan is even thinking it's easier to extract the battery from the car and reuse that and throw the rest of the car away at the end of the car's lifecycle.

The batteries can be recycled and the current generation batteries no longer use rare earth metals lowering the impact of manufacture. It's possible but not proven yet that lithium itself will be replaced as well. But then a lot of times the future doesn't happen. There was a plant in Carthage that was generating usable oil from turkey offal for less than $100 a barrel and that just sort of...went away. That's not an urban myth, it was a thing that was reported at the time. Some you just assume never worked. This one did so the drop off especially considering the current cost of oil is kind of odd.

Porsche is basically recycling output to create racing fuel.

But back to your post...basically most of what you said was wrong.

[The Alma Mater]

I cannot wait for Trump and DeSantis to start talking shit about each other in public. It’s already happening in private and it’s being reported on the mainstream news. I still don’t know why Trump fat shames DeSantis, when the mother fucker is no slim Jim of the bone yard either.

Fascist insults are projection, which is why they like calling their opponents degenerates. What they hate about others and praise themselves for is what threatens their own self-esteem. It’s a narcissistic defense mechanism weaponized for politics. That being said, it’s sad to see the mildly homoerotic (SFW, don’t worry) Trump-DeSantis friendship fall apart.

If you want homo-erotic Trump, go read his correspondence with Kim Jong-un

[Perikuresu]

America will recognise the Cook Islands and Niue as sovereign states rather than associated states with NZ, wonder what interesting outcomes will happen as a result?

[Dylar]

For whatever it's worth it was a high school history teacher that hipped me to how the active promotion of the protestant work ethic helped create a self exploiting workforce.

That whole idea just seems insane to me and completely theologically backwards. Your fate is predestined ipso facto it doesn't matter what you do. Protestantism is a call to laziness.

my understanding is that the PWE isn't used as a means of achieving salvation through works, but more as a means to evangelize and be a blessing to others through their works. As well as a belief that since priests and monks feel a calling from God to become a priest or a monk, then there must also be a vocational calling to the blue-collar worker to be a blue-collar worker

[Ayytaly]

America will recognise the Cook Islands and Niue as sovereign states rather than associated states with NZ, wonder what interesting outcomes will happen as a result?

"Hypocrites" says Puerto Rico

[Reverend Norv]

For whatever it's worth it was a high school history teacher that hipped me to how the active promotion of the protestant work ethic helped create a self exploiting workforce.

That whole idea just seems insane to me and completely theologically backwards. Your fate is predestined ipso facto it doesn't matter what you do. Protestantism is a call to laziness.

Originally, at least according to Weber, it was precisely the anxieties of predestination that produced the Protestant work ethic. If you were already predestined to heaven or hell, it became a matter of the utmost importance to know which. Many Protestants came to believe that you could determine someone's status from the way they lived their lives: since good works are the "fruits of the Spirit," when you see someone doing good, it is more likely that they are saved. (Importantly, this view had no basis in the actual thought of Jean Calvin, and indeed it implicitly contradicts Calvin's emphasis on God's unknowable providence.) So the Protestant work ethic should be understood not as a way of trying to earn your way into heaven, but instead as a rigorous form of self-criticism: "How am I actually living my life? Does it really, objectively, look like I am displaying the fruits of the Spirit? If I saw someone else living the way I live, would I observe in him the signs of a redeemed soul?" Placing yourself constantly under that kind of lacerating scrutiny, Weber thought, is likely to drive you to work hard, all the time: because no matter how much you've done, you can never be quite sure if it's enough to prove that God has saved you.

There's probably a grain of truth there, as in most influential theories. But I'm more inclined to agree with many modern scholars, who acknowledge that the Protestant work ethic is in some sense a real thing - or at least it was, at the time when England and the Dutch Republic were inventing modern industry and modern capitalism. But many post-Weber scholars don't find this phenomenon's origin in any theological feature of Protestantism. Rather, it's a matter of class identity. Pretty much everywhere in Europe, the earliest and most enthusiastic adopters of Protestantism came from the merchant classes. There were economic reasons for this, related to the particular problems of Church taxes and corruption for men who made a living by trade. There were also ideological and doctrinal reasons: the Reformation made the foundation of the church the literate laity, not the clergy, and the literate layman was likely to be a merchant. And there were cultural reasons: the Reformation was a revolt by educated university professors against a power structure that they saw as corrupt. Educated merchants, observing Europe's decaying feudal order, could easily empathize.

The result is that, from its earliest days, Protestantism was shaped by the values and priorities of the middle class. And the early modern bourgeoisie required a phenomenal work ethic: unlike the aristocracy, they could not simply live off their rents, and unlike the peasantry, they could actually gain power and wealth by working harder. This, many scholars suggest, is the most important source of the Protestant work ethic; because so many Protestants were middle-class, they ended up conflating the characteristics of a good merchant (hard work, penny-pinching, etc.) with the characteristics of a good Protestant.

In other words, the Protestant work ethic was real, but it's not really Protestant in any doctrinal sense. It's just old-fashioned middle-class hustle given a religious veneer.

[Forsher]

That whole idea just seems insane to me and completely theologically backwards. Your fate is predestined ipso facto it doesn't matter what you do. Protestantism is a call to laziness.

my understanding is that the PWE isn't used as a means of achieving salvation through works, but more as a means to evangelize and be a blessing to others through their works. As well as a belief that since priests and monks feel a calling from God to become a priest or a monk, then there must also be a vocational calling to the blue-collar worker to be a blue-collar worker

You're not wrong but my point is that it's a theological non sequitur. I mean, I know, I know, looking for logical consistency in religious thought is completely insane, but the lack of actually coherent theological reasoning for it just lends credence to CTOAN's interpretation of PWE as an ideology to justify a self-exploiting workforce.

(It kind of makes sense from the alternative argument that Catholics are too busy trying to do moral things to actually do industrious things, but at that point you're now arguing that the PWE is a real world, observable phenomenon rather than an ideology. And if you read the Wikipedia article on it, you see that is very much a precarious position to hold.)

because so many Protestants were middle-class, they ended up conflating the characteristics of a good merchant (hard work, penny-pinching, etc.) with the characteristics of a good Protestant.

Ah, the swimmer's fallacy. I think, anyway.

[San Lumen]

only in america do you get completely partial judges that are not fired.

Federal judges can't be fired. They can only be removed via impeachment by Congress.

[Dimetrodon Empire]

only in america do you get completely partial judges that are not fired.

Federal judges can't be fired. They can only be removed via impeachment by Congress.

1. Impeachment that results in conviction would result in removal from office (ie. the judge being fired.)

2. Impeachments are useless (hence cannot be fired) considering the fact that there is constant gridlock and corruption in the halls of government. The system you hold dear is failing.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

only in america do you get completely partial judges that are not fired.

Federal judges can't be fired. They can only be removed via impeachment by Congress.

I'm talking about banishing this completely partial personage from this case and replacing her with somebody that's not indebted to Mr 45.

[Dimetrodon Empire]

only in america do you get completely partial judges that are not fired.

You really have to love this era.

The sad part is that is probably going to get so much worse.