American Politics XIV: The Dawning of the Age of the Pumpkin

[Haganham]

In person voter fraud doesn't happen because it's a monumentally stupid way to try and sway an election

Which is why the checks are focused on fraud through the mail in system. Voter ID is just a stopgap, to ensure that we can account for the number of ballots and show that each one came from a genuine voter.

[Tarsonis]

Lmfao, legend says if you tilt you head just right and point your ear toward Pennsylvania, you can still hear Fetterman going around in circles

It certainly doesn't help his insistence that he's fine, either. I can't call the race just yet, but Oz's chances keep going up.

He's been Rubio'd

[Major-Tom]

Lmfao, legend says if you tilt you head just right and point your ear toward Pennsylvania, you can still hear Fetterman going around in circles

It certainly doesn't help his insistence that he's fine, either. I can't call the race just yet, but Oz's chances keep going up.

I've thought for a long while that Fetterman was more vulnerable than the pundits believed. It's not just the stroke, it's a litany of issues that Oz and the broader GOP have been extremely disciplined in zeroing in on and attacking.

PA is one of those peculiar races where neither candidate should want to be the one talked about the most. In the summer, it was Oz, for his oddities, NJ residence, and elitist mannerisms. Now it's Fetterman, and it's not boding well.

[San Lumen]

In person voter fraud doesn't happen because it's a monumentally stupid way to try and sway an election

Which is why the checks are focused on fraud through the mail in system. Voter ID is just a stopgap, to ensure that we can account for the number of ballots and show that each one came from a genuine voter.

No it isn’t. It’s a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist.

[Shrillland]

And now for Number 15.

It's a little early, I know, but I need to get some rest fairly soon.

[The Pacific Northwest]

In person voter fraud doesn't happen because it's a monumentally stupid way to try and sway an election

Which is why the checks are focused on fraud through the mail in system. Voter ID is just a stopgap, to ensure that we can account for the number of ballots and show that each one came from a genuine voter.

And eight states conduct all voting by mail only.

Oregon has been doing it for 22 years and had a fraud rate of only .00006% among all ballots cast from 2000-2019.

You verify your identity, address, and citizenship when you register to vote. Then you sign your ballot and that signature is compared to what’s on record for you and flagged for verification if there’s an issue. Ballot tampering on a scale large enough to sway an election would be very difficult to do. Someone would need to break into locked ballot drop boxes without being seen somehow, or manage to track down every stray ballot sent to the addresses of people who have moved or died (because yes, mistakes do happen, there’s no 100% foolproof system) and then perfectly forge all their signatures. Even then I’m not sure they’d have enough to affect the overall outcome.

[Mattopilos III]

Which is why the checks are focused on fraud through the mail in system. Voter ID is just a stopgap, to ensure that we can account for the number of ballots and show that each one came from a genuine voter.

And eight states conduct all voting by mail only.

Oregon has been doing it for 22 years and had a fraud rate of only .00006% among all ballots cast from 2000-2019.

You verify your identity, address, and citizenship when you register to vote. Then you sign your ballot and that signature is compared to what’s on record for you and flagged for verification if there’s an issue. Ballot tampering on a scale large enough to sway an election would be very difficult to do. Someone would need to break into locked ballot drop boxes without being seen somehow, or manage to track down every stray ballot sent to the addresses of people who have moved or died (because yes, mistakes do happen, there’s no 100% foolproof system) and then perfectly forge all their signatures.

Yep. We don't have voter ID in our country... And never have or have had a votor fraud issue.

[Cannot think of a name]

In person voter fraud doesn't happen because it's a monumentally stupid way to try and sway an election

Which is why the checks are focused on fraud through the mail in system. Voter ID is just a stopgap, to ensure that we can account for the number of ballots and show that each one came from a genuine voter.

No it's not. It's an attempt to disenfranchise voters. Don't lie. Everyone knows. This is like trying to pretend Santa is real when your kids are in college.

[The Black Forrest]

Which is why the checks are focused on fraud through the mail in system. Voter ID is just a stopgap, to ensure that we can account for the number of ballots and show that each one came from a genuine voter.

No it's not. It's an attempt to disenfranchise voters. Don't lie. Everyone knows. This is like trying to pretend Santa is real when your kids are in college.

You take that back. Santa is real!

[Mountains and Volcanoes]

EVERYONE BETTER VOTE!

[The Pacific Northwest]

Which is why the checks are focused on fraud through the mail in system. Voter ID is just a stopgap, to ensure that we can account for the number of ballots and show that each one came from a genuine voter.

No it's not. It's an attempt to disenfranchise voters. Don't lie. Everyone knows. This is like trying to pretend Santa is real when your kids are in college.

It’s definitely easier to influence results by keeping someone from voting by say, making them go to a physical location they may or may not be able to easily get to, stand in a line for an unknown amount of time during normal work hours on a Tuesday, and pay for photo ID prior which, if you’re living paycheck to paycheck, may be difficult to afford, than to get your hands on enough physical ballots and forge enough signatures well enough that they’re not flagged.

If states were really committed to making voting accessible to everyone they wouldn’t be putting restrictions on it when mailing ballots is easy and fraud rates are incredibly low.

When I registered I was able to use my birth certificate, social security card, high school student ID, and mail. From a quick Google search it seems a lot of states require photo ID that is government issued, or a student ID from a university, to be presented every time you vote. Both government ID and college cost money. $60 is a lot when you’re poor. Quite a few states seem to allow high school IDs or mail with your name on it, but still.

[Alcala-Cordel]

EVERYONE BETTER VOTE!

I voted to keep a few deranged assholes out of the education system and went over most of the bills. Didn't do much else.

[The Alma Mater]

No it's not. It's an attempt to disenfranchise voters. Don't lie. Everyone knows. This is like trying to pretend Santa is real when your kids are in college.

You take that back. Santa is real!

Indeed. He was even on the ballot in Alaska.

https://twitter.com/santaclausforak/sta ... 0995715081

[The United Penguin Commonwealth]

You take that back. Santa is real!

Indeed. He was even on the ballot in Alaska.

https://twitter.com/santaclausforak/sta ... 0995715081

I would absolutely vote for him above... whoever was running against him. I've forgotten their name.

[Greater Cesnica]

Given the PA debate debacle, I feel more confident in saying that the Republicans will clinch both chambers.

[Thermodolia]

Given the PA debate debacle, I feel more confident in saying that the Republicans will clinch both chambers.

I don’t. And the main reason is because debates really aren’t the decider they once where. Besides ya got two weeks and Oz definitely screwed up with his own things particularly on abortion where he pissed off everyone.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Given the PA debate debacle, I feel more confident in saying that the Republicans will clinch both chambers.

I don’t. And the main reason is because debates really aren’t the decider they once where. Besides ya got two weeks and Oz definitely screwed up with his own things particularly on abortion where he pissed off everyone.

how do you even piss off two diametrically opposed sides at the same time

[Bovad]

Shouldnt we all be over in the new thread?

[Thermodolia]

I don’t. And the main reason is because debates really aren’t the decider they once where. Besides ya got two weeks and Oz definitely screwed up with his own things particularly on abortion where he pissed off everyone.

how do you even piss off two diametrically opposed sides at the same time

By simultaneously saying that you don’t believe in abortion bans and think that abortion should just between a woman, her doctor, and politicians.

[Khurkhogur]

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