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Who do you think will win come November?

Republicans in Both Houses
41
30%
Republican House, Democratic Senate
57
42%
Democratic House, Republican Senate
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9%
Democrats in Both Houses
26
19%
 
Total votes : 136

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Postby Necroghastia » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:29 pm

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It makes it harder for people to vote. In person voter fraud does not exist.

Bringing in photo ID is very hard, right? :p

If it's something you have to pay for and potentially need to take time off from work to acquire, it sure can be.
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Postby Sundiata » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:29 pm

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It makes it harder for people to vote. In person voter fraud does not exist.

Bringing in photo ID is very hard, right? :p

Why not make election day a federal holiday?

And what suggestions do you have to provide people with issues of mobility and cognitiion the means to vote? One extra step that is not difficult for you is a big ask for some people.
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Postby Tarsonis » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:31 pm

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That's unfortunate.

What's really unfortunate is children being massacred in school.


Banning semiautomatics rifles won't stop this, as has been demonstrated many times.
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Postby American Legionaries » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:31 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Yerachmeal wrote:Bringing in photo ID is very hard, right? :p

For some people its hard to get because they don't have transportation or records simply don't exist or are incomplete. You should also not have to pay money or order to vote.


So you think all motor fuel should be free?

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:32 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Sundiata wrote:What's really unfortunate is children being massacred in school.


Banning semiautomatics rifles won't stop this, as has been demonstrated many times.


Yeah and somehow children being shredded in school only happens in this country but that's price we should we willing to pay for your stupid pieces of metal and getting laws that protect the environment?

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Postby Yerachmeal » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:33 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Sundiata wrote:What's really unfortunate is children being massacred in school.


Banning semiautomatics rifles won't stop this, as has been demonstrated many times.

It will minimize it if they they allow hand guns after an extensive background check so that people will be able to defend themselves.
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Postby Sundiata » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:33 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Sundiata wrote:What's really unfortunate is children being massacred in school.


Banning semiautomatics rifles won't stop this, as has been demonstrated many times.

It eventually might if this policy is implemented at the national level.
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Postby Kannap » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:33 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:You can save the environment by not being silly on guns. It’s all up to you


Yea let’s give up all gun laws and go back to the Wild West.


Many, if not most, towns in the Wild West had "gun control" laws where people visiting their towns had to disarm by handing in their guns for their duration of stay in the town.

Are you implying that you believe the Wild West was a place where anything went and, by extension, implying that those gun control laws didn't work?
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:35 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Banning semiautomatics rifles won't stop this, as has been demonstrated many times.


Yeah and somehow children being shredded in school only happens in this country but that's price we should we willing to pay for your stupid pieces of metal and getting laws that protect the environment?

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Postby Kannap » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:35 pm

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This is why a I sometimes call the Republicans the Socialist Unity Party.


Is it a common habit of yours to ascribe names to things that aren't what they actually are?
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:35 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
San Lumen wrote:For some people its hard to get because they don't have transportation or records simply don't exist or are incomplete. You should also not have to pay money or order to vote.


So you think all motor fuel should be free?

No one said this.

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Postby Shrillland » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:35 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
San Lumen wrote:For some people its hard to get because they don't have transportation or records simply don't exist or are incomplete. You should also not have to pay money or order to vote.


So you think all motor fuel should be free?


Motor fuel already is free for people who don't have vehicles. They aren't paying anything for it at any rate.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:36 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Yeah and somehow children being shredded in school only happens in this country but that's price we should we willing to pay for your stupid pieces of metal and getting laws that protect the environment?

OnLy In AmErIcA!!1!


Children getting slaughtered at school rarely happens in Russia or any other country.

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Postby Yerachmeal » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:36 pm

Kannap wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
Yea let’s give up all gun laws and go back to the Wild West.


Many, if not most, towns in the Wild West had "gun control" laws where people visiting their towns had to disarm by handing in their guns for their duration of stay in the town.

Are you implying that you believe the Wild West was a place where anything went and, by extension, implying that those gun control laws didn't work?

Well, where did more murder's happen? There or here?
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Postby Kannap » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:36 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
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The person who needs convincing is the elitist who thinks he should get everything he wants "just because" and it's everyone else who need to compromise.


The trees can’t be harmed if Americans are armed.


The Lorax would have been a much shorter book if Dr. Seuss gave him a gun.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:36 pm

Kannap wrote:
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This is why a I sometimes call the Republicans the Socialist Unity Party.


Is it a common habit of yours to ascribe names to things that aren't what they actually are?


I guess.

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Postby American Legionaries » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:37 pm

San Lumen wrote:
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So you think all motor fuel should be free?

No one said this.


I need to buy gasoline in order to vote. Gasoline requires me to pay money.

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Postby Kannap » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:39 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
San Lumen wrote:For some people its hard to get because they don't have transportation or records simply don't exist or are incomplete. You should also not have to pay money or order to vote.


So you think all motor fuel should be free?


*looks at my most recent gas station receipts* Now that you mention it... fuck yeah.
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Postby Yerachmeal » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:39 pm

Sundiata wrote:
Yerachmeal wrote:Bringing in photo ID is very hard, right? :p

Why not make election day a federal holiday?

And what suggestions do you have to provide people with issues of mobility and cognitiion the means to vote? One extra step that is not difficult for you is a big ask for some people.

Better welfare then we have, and create more jobs , so that they can get enough money to afford it.
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Postby Necroghastia » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:40 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
San Lumen wrote:No one said this.


I need to buy gasoline in order to vote. Gasoline requires me to pay money.

damn didn't know you didn't have mail in ballots where you live
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Postby Kannap » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:40 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Banning semiautomatics rifles won't stop this, as has been demonstrated many times.


Yeah and somehow children being shredded in school only happens in this country but that's price we should we willing to pay for your stupid pieces of metal and getting laws that protect the environment?


Is banning guns the easier route? Probably not, given the opposition to it and the difficult/nearly impossible process you'd have to take of amending the Constitution to get it done.

You know what all those other countries that don't have regular gun violence have? Universal healthcare. That would go a long way, potentially, to minimize the amount of mass shootings in this country.
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:41 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
San Lumen wrote:No one said this.


I need to buy gasoline in order to vote. Gasoline requires me to pay money.


That is different from requiring ID to solve a problem that does not exist.

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Postby Yerachmeal » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:43 pm

San Lumen wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
I need to buy gasoline in order to vote. Gasoline requires me to pay money.


That is different from requiring ID to solve a problem that does not exist.

It's the reason it doesn't exist.
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Postby Tarsonis » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:44 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Banning semiautomatics rifles won't stop this, as has been demonstrated many times.


Yeah and somehow children being shredded in school only happens in this country but that's price we should we willing to pay for your stupid pieces of metal and getting laws that protect the environment?


Doing your best coastal elite impression eh?
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Postby American Legionaries » Fri Oct 21, 2022 3:44 pm

San Lumen wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
I need to buy gasoline in order to vote. Gasoline requires me to pay money.


That is different from requiring ID to solve a problem that does not exist.


I mean, requiring ID solves a problem that does exist, though.

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