American Politics XIV: The Dawning of the Age of the Pumpkin

[American Legionaries]

If we wholly ignore the hyperbole involved and presume Lumen's assessment of Zeldin. We've been presented two good positions, one that is of almost zero consequence, and one that's wholly irrelevant.

Zeor gun laws is terrible,

I disagree...

and not allowing abortion in the first 3 months means if a teenager is raped she'll have to give birth. (Hopefully it's not sexist to assume it would be a she).

Yes.

[Senkaku]

I don’t see how supporting the environment and supporting gun rights has to be exclusive. In fact they should be complimentary.

Because weapons manufacturers are the natural allies of extractive industries, hence why they’ve coalesced around a suite of policies that benefit both of them and helped polarize the country on the same issues

[Sundiata]

The person who needs convincing is the elitist who thinks he should get everything he wants "just because" and it's everyone else who need to compromise.

The trees can’t be harmed if Americans are armed.

Unfortunately weapons can be made from tree bark.

[Necroghastia]

The person who needs convincing is the elitist who thinks he should get everything he wants "just because" and it's everyone else who need to compromise.

The trees can’t be harmed if Americans are armed.

Sure they can. As long as there's money to be made.

[The Jamesian Republic]

The trees can’t be harmed if Americans are armed.

Unfortunately weapons can be made from treebark.

Not if everyone has AR-15s.

[Yerachmeal]

I don’t see how supporting the environment and supporting gun rights has to be exclusive. In fact they should be complimentary.

The trees can’t be harmed if Americans are armed.

Excess gun powder leaves hot smoke in the air. Global warming! S/

[Necroghastia]

Unfortunately weapons can be made from treebark.

Not if everyone has AR-15s.

If everyone has AR-15s, so do the people trying to destroy shit in the first place, you realize.

[Sundiata]

Unfortunately weapons can be made from treebark.

Not if everyone has AR-15s.

Why do you want to mine raw resources and convert the earth that God gave us into weapons of war?

[The Jamesian Republic]

Not if everyone has AR-15s.

Why do you want to mine raw resources and convert the earth that God gave us into weapons of war?

I’m trying to support gun rights and the environment.

[The Jamesian Republic]

Not if everyone has AR-15s.

If everyone has AR-15s, so do the people trying to destroy shit in the first place, you realize.

Everyone must fight them.

[Sundiata]

Why do you want to mine raw resources and convert the earth that God gave us into weapons of war?

I’m trying to support gun rights and the environment.

But how about we not encourage the production of weapons or their usage?

[The Black Forrest]

I’ll leave this here.

The person who needs convincing is the elitist who thinks he should get everything he wants "just because" and it's everyone else who need to compromise.

*shrugs* You would think saving the rock we live on would take precedence.

The problem? it wouldn’t change.

You can wave a magic wand and arm everybody and people would still do the same thing which causes all the climate issues…..

[Yerachmeal]

Zeor gun laws is terrible,

I disagree...

Let's just let criminals have all the guns they need! What should happen is we should buyback all assault rifles, but since criminals get handguns illegally anyways, we should allow people to bey them to defend them self if they pass an extensive background check.

and not allowing abortion in the first 3 months means if a teenager is raped she'll have to give birth. (Hopefully it's not sexist to assume it would be a she).

Yes.[/quote]
That's bad. A teenager can't be a mother.

[The Jamesian Republic]

I’m trying to support gun rights and the environment.

But how about we not encourage the production of weapons or their usage?

I guess although it wouldn’t make a lot of people happy.

[Senkaku]

Not if everyone has AR-15s.

Why do you want to mine raw resources and convert the earth that God gave us into weapons of war?

https://imgur.io/a/YykLnBS

Why do you want to mine raw resources and convert the earth that God gave us into weapons of war?

I’m trying to support gun rights and the environment.

Why are you trying to do that. Like most of the time it seems like the extent of your political thought is looking at people arguing about the most random shit ever and going “but what if we could support BOTH of your ideas??” And like yeah in a world where historical contingency played out differently sure whatever but you’re here with the rest of us in the same environment that’s polarized in a very specific way, what does going “but what if we weren’t polarized…” serve to do besides annoy me

[The Jamesian Republic]

Why do you want to mine raw resources and convert the earth that God gave us into weapons of war?

https://imgur.io/a/YykLnBS

I’m trying to support gun rights and the environment.

Why are you trying to do that. Like most of the time it seems like the extent of your political thought is looking at people arguing about the most random shit ever and going “but what if we could support BOTH of your ideas??” And like yeah in a world where historical contingency played out differently sure whatever but you’re here with the rest of us in the same environment that’s polarized in a very specific way, what does going “but what if we weren’t polarized…” serve to do besides annoy me

I don’t know.

[Sundiata]

But how about we not encourage the production of weapons or their usage?

I guess although it wouldn’t make a lot of people happy.

Relative to violence, I think that peace would make a lot of people happy.

[The Black Forrest]

I guess although it wouldn’t make a lot of people happy.

Relative to violence, I think that peace would make a lot of people happy.

Hmmm? Not really. A great many people like being douche bags.

[American Legionaries]

I guess although it wouldn’t make a lot of people happy.

Relative to violence, I think that peace would make a lot of people happy.

You think people are suddenly going to be peaceful because you stop some of them from having certain categories of weapons?

[Sundiata]

Relative to violence, I think that peace would make a lot of people happy.

You think people are suddenly going to be peaceful because you stop some of them from having certain categories of weapons?

Yes.

[American Legionaries]

You think people are suddenly going to be peaceful because you stop some of them from having certain categories of weapons?

Yes.

That's unfortunate.

[Sundiata]

Yes.

That's unfortunate.

What's really unfortunate is children being massacred in school.

[San Lumen]

Yes.

Of course. Let's pretend that photo ID really prevents a problem that never existed, like you say. That still doesn't explain how it tampers with "democracy"(even though as I've stated I don't know how many times, we're not a democracy.)

It makes it harder for people to vote. In person voter fraud does not exist.

[Yerachmeal]

Of course. Let's pretend that photo ID really prevents a problem that never existed, like you say. That still doesn't explain how it tampers with "democracy"(even though as I've stated I don't know how many times, we're not a democracy.)

It makes it harder for people to vote. In person voter fraud does not exist.

Bringing in photo ID is very hard, right?

[San Lumen]

It makes it harder for people to vote. In person voter fraud does not exist.

Bringing in photo ID is very hard, right?

For some people its hard to get because they don't have transportation or records simply don't exist or are incomplete. You should also not have to pay money or order to vote.