American Politics XIV: The Dawning of the Age of the Pumpkin

[American Legionaries]

-also if they win the elections shouldn't be certified.

Why should you be allowed to serve if you don’t believe in free and fair elections?

Why should you be allowed to serve if you don't believe in free and fair arms acquisition?

[Umeria]

Idk I think direct conflict should be avoided in this case

Yeah but we could be managing it better. For example the CHIPS act didn't have enough strings attached and led to Intel laying off thousands of people after getting the money.

Intel laid off thousands because the controls on exports of technology made no use for those people to work.

Hell Intel shut down it’s entire Chinese branch because of the Government action

Interesting, from what I saw it was just a generic announcement of layoffs, not specifying any particular region, but if that's the case then I guess it's fine.

[Tarsonis]

You say it wouldn't and then list reasons why it would.

Why do you want abortion banned? Why don't you believe in climate change? Why do you think Trump won?

To my knowledge, Telconi has never said as such. He's just unwilling to compromise on gun rights

[Thermodolia]

Intel laid off thousands because the controls on exports of technology made no use for those people to work.

Hell Intel shut down it’s entire Chinese branch because of the Government action

Interesting, from what I saw it was just a generic announcement of layoffs, not specifying any particular region, but if that's the case then I guess it's fine.

The announcement of layoffs happened right after the US government announced the new export controls. As a response intel shut down it’s entire Chinese operation

[Platoon of Peace]

And you don’t?

No. I want gerrymandering to end and for Republicans to stop their assault on democracy and accept the idea of free and fair elections like they did pre Trump. Now they want to make it so they can never lose again. That is the whole point of Moore v Harper so they can get the ok to appoint different electors if they don't like they lost a state whose legislature they control.

Dude, 90% of what you do on this thread is complain about republicans winning. Nearly everything that you say that doesn't involve the environment is "republicans are killing democracy!!!" I have a feeling that you want democrats to be the only ones in control, seeing as how you nearly never provide any evidence to the democracy murder claims.

[The United Front Empire]

No. I want gerrymandering to end and for Republicans to stop their assault on democracy and accept the idea of free and fair elections like they did pre Trump. Now they want to make it so they can never lose again. That is the whole point of Moore v Harper so they can get the ok to appoint different electors if they don't like they lost a state whose legislature they control.

Are you not aware of Democrats calling every election they lost illegitimate since Bush and Gore in 2000? Including governor races and congressional races?

[Yerachmeal]

No it wouldn't. Zeldin is a nut who wants zero gun laws, abortion banned, doesn't believe in climate change, and is an election denier but If my state wants that this country is truly lost.

His victory shouldn't be certified.

You say it wouldn't and then list reasons why it would.

How are those reasons that it woul be magnificent? I mean He's better than Hochul but everything SL said is true, about him

[Thermodolia]

Why do you want abortion banned? Why don't you believe in climate change? Why do you think Trump won?

To my knowledge, Telconi has never said as such. He's just unwilling yo compromise on gun rights

Which is fair because everyone has something they are unwilling to compromise on. Necro wouldn’t compromise on trans rights

[San Lumen]

You have more faith in the voting public than me.

That’s because I don’t hate humanity and I’m not a hyperpartisan hack

Conspiracy theorists shouldn’t even be competitive yet they are in many states even mine.

So the media says. Tbh I think a lot of races are more competitive than they actually are. Remember fear sells and what’s a better way to sell news than to say that an election is a lot closer than it actually is.

Besides there’s a lot of evidence that democrats and young voters are being underpolled and there’s a high possibility that 2022 could look like 2016 but for the Dems.

We didn’t have these wild swings until Obama.

Wanna bet? Bush 2 and Clinton both had big swings

Now winning the presidency means a wave against your party.

No. The party in the White House never does well in the midterms traditionally.

I hope your prediction is right. I don’t want Governor Zeldin.

You are correct the presidents party never does well but prior to Clinton you didn’t have crazy swings like now. They were extremely rare and once the presidents party loses congress they don’t get it back until someone from the other party holds the presidency.

[Necroghastia]

Why do you want abortion banned? Why don't you believe in climate change? Why do you think Trump won?

Because killing people is bad.

Isn't like part of your whole muh second amendment shpiel that killing people is good actually lol? Quit fucking lying.

I do. I don't.

Don't lie. Either you are lying now or you were lying when you posted that you support such denials of reality. Either way, do you think anyone likes you when you do that?

[Thermodolia]

No. I want gerrymandering to end and for Republicans to stop their assault on democracy and accept the idea of free and fair elections like they did pre Trump. Now they want to make it so they can never lose again. That is the whole point of Moore v Harper so they can get the ok to appoint different electors if they don't like they lost a state whose legislature they control.

Are you not aware of Democrats calling every election they lost illegitimate since Bush and Gore in 2000? Including governor races and congressional races?

Literally nobody has done that

[American Legionaries]

Why do you want abortion banned? Why don't you believe in climate change? Why do you think Trump won?

To my knowledge, Telconi has never said as such. He's just unwilling yo compromise on gun rights

Pinnipeds have an aversion to relevant material.

[San Lumen]

No. I want gerrymandering to end and for Republicans to stop their assault on democracy and accept the idea of free and fair elections like they did pre Trump. Now they want to make it so they can never lose again. That is the whole point of Moore v Harper so they can get the ok to appoint different electors if they don't like they lost a state whose legislature they control.

Dude, 90% of what you do on this thread is complain about republicans winning. Nearly everything that you say that doesn't involve the environment is "republicans are killing democracy!!!" I have a feeling that you want democrats to be the only ones in control, seeing as how you nearly never provide any evidence to the democracy murder claims.

I have. Why are Republicans trying to make it harder to vote?

Here is your proof: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/rcna8342

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/how-c ... -elections

[Yerachmeal]

You can’t kill the planet. The earth will continue to exist with or without us.

The thing we’d be killing is ourselves

Well that seems to be where we are headed because most people are too selfish to care.

Let me finish the sentence for you. Most people are too selfish to care about all the wild life it would harm, and all the pollution it would cause. Climate change is a conspiracy theory. I think we should go somewhat green for ceartain plants and animals sakes.

[American Legionaries]

Because killing people is bad.

Isn't like part of your whole muh second amendment shpiel that killing people is good actually lol? Quit fucking lying.

Quite the contrary.

I do. I don't.

Don't lie. Either you are lying now or you were lying when you posted that you support such denials of reality. Either way, do you think anyone likes you when you do that?

Or I was telling the truth in both situations. Since believing something and supporting someone who doesn’t believe that thing is possible.

Oh, and it's worth noting that lots of people like me.

[Ulajhan]

And you don’t?

No. I want gerrymandering to end and for Republicans to stop their assault on democracy and accept the idea of free and fair elections like they did pre Trump. Now they want to make it so they can never lose again. That is the whole point of Moore v Harper so they can get the ok to appoint different electors if they don't like they lost a state whose legislature they control.

You think they believed in it before Trump? Then I'll have a Royal Friend from Nigeria who would need your aid!

[San Lumen]

Well that seems to be where we are headed because most people are too selfish to care.

Let me finish the sentence for you. Most people are too selfish to care about all the wild life it would harm, and all the pollution it would cause. Climate change is a conspiracy theory. I think we should go somewhat green for ceartain plants and animals sakes.

No it isn’t. Humans are causing the destruction of wildlife and forests at an insane rate. We are a cancer on this planet. I wish the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs hit the moon instead.

[Thermodolia]

Because killing people is bad.

Isn't like part of your whole muh second amendment shpiel that killing people is good actually lol? Quit fucking lying.

No it’s self defense. Iirc Tel doesn’t like the death penalty either. He also doesn’t like cops killing people.

I do. I don't.

Don't lie. Either you are lying now or you were lying when you posted that you support such denials of reality. Either way, do you think anyone likes you when you do that?

He’s not lying. He said that GOP governor of New York would be magnificent. He believes that no abortion and no gun control is magnificent. You can still say that something is magnificent when there’s things that aren’t in a list.

I bet that if there was a candidate you liked who happened to be running for office and they where for everything you like but they where against trans people and trans rights while the opposition was a person who didn’t support most of what you like but they supported trans rights you’d probably either support the latter or not vote

[Necroghastia]

To my knowledge, Telconi has never said as such. He's just unwilling yo compromise on gun rights

Pinnipeds have an aversion to relevant material.

aww, learned a new vocab word from your dos friend last night? congrats!

Isn't like part of your whole muh second amendment shpiel that killing people is good actually lol? Quit fucking lying.

Quite the contrary.?

girlie you just said you don't believe in the right to self defense if it involves having to take any kind of life sooooo

Or I was telling the truth in both situations. Since believing something and supporting someone who doesn’t believe that thing is possible.

Not if you have so much as an atom of honesty or integrity within you. Of course, I'm flogging the fuck out of a dead horse at this point.

[American Legionaries]

Let me finish the sentence for you. Most people are too selfish to care about all the wild life it would harm, and all the pollution it would cause. Climate change is a conspiracy theory. I think we should go somewhat green for ceartain plants and animals sakes.

No it isn’t. Humans are causing the destruction of wildlife and forests at an insane rate. We are a cancer on this planet. I wish the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs hit the moon instead.

You should support climate change deniers then. They're the most likely group to bring your extinction fantasies to fruition.

[San Lumen]

No it isn’t. Humans are causing the destruction of wildlife and forests at an insane rate. We are a cancer on this planet. I wish the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs hit the moon instead.

You should support climate change deniers then. They're the most likely group to bring your extinction fantasies to fruition.

Never said that.

[American Legionaries]

Pinnipeds have an aversion to relevant material.

aww, learned a new vocab word from your dos friend last night? congrats!

Quite the contrary.?

girlie you just said you don't believe in the right to self defense if it involves having to take any kind of life sooooo

Or I was telling the truth in both situations. Since believing something and supporting someone who doesn’t believe that thing is possible.

Not if you have so much as an atom of honesty or integrity within you. Of course, I'm flogging the fuck out of a dead horse at this point.

Oh noes, Necroghastia doesn't approve of my political opinions, how shall I ever survive being so decent and righteous?

[Thermodolia]

Quite the contrary.?

girlie you just said you don't believe in the right to self defense if it involves having to take any kind of life sooooo

Point to where he said that. Because all I see is that he said killing is wrong. Which means that killing someone in self defense should be last resort.

Or I was telling the truth in both situations. Since believing something and supporting someone who doesn’t believe that thing is possible.

Not if you have so much as an atom of honesty or integrity within you. Of course, I'm flogging the fuck out of a dead horse at this point.

No he’s telling the truth, you just don’t like it

[Tarsonis]

You should support climate change deniers then. They're the most likely group to bring your extinction fantasies to fruition.

Never said that.

We've told you how to get Telconi to support your environmental plan, support gun rights.

[Platoon of Peace]

Dude, 90% of what you do on this thread is complain about republicans winning. Nearly everything that you say that doesn't involve the environment is "republicans are killing democracy!!!" I have a feeling that you want democrats to be the only ones in control, seeing as how you nearly never provide any evidence to the democracy murder claims.

I have. Why are Republicans trying to make it harder to vote?

Here is your proof: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/rcna8342

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/how-c ... -elections

Can one really call voting restrictions "assaulting democracy" and "making it so they can never lose again?"