American Politics XIV: The Dawning of the Age of the Pumpkin

[Tarsonis]

Yeah...yeah it is.

I mean, lets set aside that your pitch at this point to temper the reputation of Trump is to go, "Oh he's not lying, he's just too fucking stupid to tell the difference between lies and the truth" which is just fucking stunning, really. I've seen some mealy mouthed copium to deal with Trump being a complete and total fucking idiot and embarrassment but this is a top rope leap, so bravo for that.

I'm not defending his reputation. How many times have I said that I'm neither pro Trump nor MAGA?

But 'convincing yourself the lie is the truth' doesn't mean you're not lying, It just means you've committed to the lie.

How you've managed to work yourself into any other conclusion is, honestly, fucking astounding.

Look it up in a dictionary. Lying is knowingly saying something false, not being an idiot.

You might not be a Trumper but "it's technically not a lie if he believed it" is a weird hill to die on.

[Spirit of Hope]

I'm not defending his reputation. How many times have I said that I'm neither pro Trump nor MAGA?

Look it up in a dictionary. Lying is knowingly saying something false, not being an idiot.

You might not be a Trumper but "it's technically not a lie if he believed it" is a weird hill to die on.

Especially since most of his false statements, and definitely the most egregious ones, have been called out as false. Both in the public media and by people within Trumps circle.

Yeah sure, maybe the first time Trump said 2020 was stolen he really truly believed it, but its 2 years later and lots of people have called out this falsehood.

[Eahland]

You might not be a Trumper but "it's technically not a lie if he believed it" is a weird hill to die on.

Especially since most of his false statements, and definitely the most egregious ones, have been called out as false. Both in the public media and by people within Trumps circle.

Yeah sure, maybe the first time Trump said 2020 was stolen he really truly believed it, but its 2 years later and lots of people have called out this falsehood.

I believe the January 6th committee has established that Trump knew, and privately admitted, even before Election Day, that he was going to lose; thus the strategy of declaring victory early and trying to stop or delay the counting.

[Saiwania]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/educatio ... e-johnson/

I'm in favor. If Republicans win big this year, we're finally going to reverse this trend towards transgenderism being perceived as okay. We're going to have a glorious return to "don't ask don't tell" with regards to this.

[Mattopilos III]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/10/20/lgbtq-gender-sexuality-bill-school-mike-johnson/

I'm in favor. If Republicans win big this year, we're finally going to reverse this trend towards transgenderism being perceived as okay. We're going to have a glorious return to "don't ask don't tell" with regards to this.

So you like people dying preventable deaths? Okay.

[Washington Resistance Army]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/10/20/lgbtq-gender-sexuality-bill-school-mike-johnson/

I'm in favor. If Republicans win big this year, we're finally going to reverse this trend towards transgenderism being perceived as okay. We're going to have a glorious return to "don't ask don't tell" with regards to this.

So you like people dying preventable deaths? Okay.

Saiwania is, by his own admission, a basement dwelling Nazi. Reveling in other peoples pain is all he has going in life.

[Mattopilos III]

So you like people dying preventable deaths? Okay.

Saiwania is, by his own admission, a basement dwelling Nazi. Reveling in other peoples pain is all he has going in life.

I've noticed.

[The Black Forrest]

There are signs suggesting it. Still; a professional would have to test it.

He would never accept such a test. Lived a long life of being told he was perfect.

Maybe not officially diagnose, but it doesn't stop professionals from psychoanalyzing from afar. They do it all the time to predict the behaviors of people they can't assess in person.

You need a controlled setting to analyze a person. A professional wouldn’t make a declaration from watching a person on TV.

Learned that one from my friend who works with addiction. He said Kavenaugh definitely showed signs of drinking issues. Still he would need to talk to him in person……

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Someone recently asked me if I know about those "liberal communists." I said no.

He then asked another one of my friends the same thing and he goes "Wella liberal is a kind of a capitalist, so your basically asking me if I've heard of a capitalist communist, so no!"

He's like "A modern liberal is not a capitalist! Only a few of them even qualify as moderate enough to be called socialist!"

One terribly beautiful day you will learn that liberalism and communism consider eachother mortal enemies.

[Yerachmeal]

Someone recently asked me if I know about those "liberal communists." I said no.

He then asked another one of my friends the same thing and he goes "Wella liberal is a kind of a capitalist, so your basically asking me if I've heard of a capitalist communist, so no!"

He's like "A modern liberal is not a capitalist! Only a few of them even qualify as moderate enough to be called socialist!"

One terribly beautiful day you will learn that liberalism and communism consider eachother mortal enemies.

Already know that That's why I posted this, because that friend if mine who made those comments was hilarious.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

https://www.rawstory.com/rebels-run/
Mhmm imagine if a German filmmaker was to seek funding for a movie glorifying the war crimes on the Eastern Front

[The Blaatschapen]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shefali_Razdan_Duggal

Huzzah, we finally have an ambassador again. Her predecessor and jackass Hoekstra left in January 2020.

Why does it take so long for the US to appoint new ambassadors?

[Saiwania]

Saiwania is, by his own admission, a basement dwelling Nazi. Reveling in other peoples pain is all he has going in life.

No basements in Florida, but I know what people want to insinuate figuratively speaking. The Sith aren't real, but their ideology very well could be. It is what most speaks to me and my lived experiences. Fear is what is the most important emotion in this world. It is the basis for whatever threats we need safety from. Only our betters can trade our obedience for security. The reason why anyone doesn't do anything they truly want, is because they're more afraid of the outcome or consequences.

The highest state anyone can aspire to, is one who has carefully orchestrated their own rise, even if that happens to be at someone else's expense. And chances are that is what has to be done to truly win out. No billionaire for example, (especially not in America) ever got there playing fair the entire time. They very likely had to cut some corners or pay other people less than they should at minimum.

[Ifreann]

Lots of things are mental illnesses. That doesn't mean that Trump is mentally ill.

You don’t think that Trump is mentally ill?

No, I don't.

[Big Jim P]

i wonder how mad djt is now over the fact that "his" scotus isn't covering his arse

Well, they still have a shot at least on this one. I'm sure he'll appeal. Unless this isn't an appealable ruling. Lawyer shit confuses me. I have a friend who became a lawyer, a path we all knew he was on when he was 6, we were reminiscing over a bowl and he said a line that stuck with me, "we're a nation created by lawyers".

More corrupted by lawyers than created.

[Big Jim P]

Someone recently asked me if I know about those "liberal communists." I said no.

He then asked another one of my friends the same thing and he goes "Wella liberal is a kind of a capitalist, so your basically asking me if I've heard of a capitalist communist, so no!"

He's like "A modern liberal is not a capitalist! Only a few of them even qualify as moderate enough to be called socialist!"

One terribly beautiful day you will learn that liberalism and communism consider eachother mortal enemies.

Antifa and fascists feel the same way about each other, yet the actions of the two are indistinguishable.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

One terribly beautiful day you will learn that liberalism and communism consider eachother mortal enemies.

Antifa and fascists feel the same way about each other, yet the actions of the two are indistinguishable. :rofl:

do you think the same about a murderer and the guy who shoots the murderer?

[Big Jim P]

Antifa and fascists feel the same way about each other, yet the actions of the two are indistinguishable.

do you think the same about a murderer and the guy who shoots the murderer?

No.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

do you think the same about a murderer and the guy who shoots the murderer?

:rofl:

No.

boring
about as boring as that french vichyist

[Ifreann]

One terribly beautiful day you will learn that liberalism and communism consider eachother mortal enemies.

Antifa and fascists feel the same way about each other, yet the actions of the two are indistinguishable.

Very funny that the rugged individualist libertarian is so opposed to locally organised community defence when it's defending against the far right.

[Big Jim P]

Antifa and fascists feel the same way about each other, yet the actions of the two are indistinguishable.

Very funny that the rugged individualist libertarian is so opposed to locally organised community defence when it's defending against the far right.

Very funny that people support a group that is unwilling to show their faces or attack anyone unless they have an overwhelming advantage.

[Ifreann]

Very funny that the rugged individualist libertarian is so opposed to locally organised community defence when it's defending against the far right.

Very funny that people support a group that is unwilling to show their faces or attack anyone unless they have an overwhelming advantage.

They pragmatically protect themselves from retaliation and do not treat violence like some kind of game that calls for fair play.

[Big Jim P]

Very funny that people support a group that is unwilling to show their faces or attack anyone unless they have an overwhelming advantage.

They pragmatically protect themselves from retaliation and do not treat violence like some kind of game that calls for fair play.

No, they are just cowards.

Edit: To the bolded: So, fascists.

[Ifreann]

They pragmatically protect themselves from retaliation and do not treat violence like some kind of game that calls for fair play.

No, they are just cowards.

No, Jim, you're describing people being sensible and practical while defending their community. They fight when they have the numbers because they're fighting to win, not to score points for bravery. They hide their identities because if they're identified, they'll be in danger, and it is a stupid person who needlessly places themselves and their families in danger.

[Big Jim P]

No, they are just cowards.

No, Jim, you're describing people being sensible and practical while defending their community. They fight when they have the numbers because they're fighting to win, not to score points for bravery. They hide their identities because if they're identified, they'll be in danger, and it is a stupid person who needlessly places themselves and their families in danger.

Even stupider is someone who not only can't properly identify a fascist, but use fascistic actions and calls themselves antifascists.

No matter how you try to spin it, they are worthless.