American Politics XIV: The Dawning of the Age of the Pumpkin

[Corrian]

That is unfortunate. This is a good time for Dems to take Arizona with their crazy and they ended up choosing a sloppy candidate for governor. Though choosing disappointing candidates seems to be a Arizona trend (Sinema)

During the primaries she was doing great. It’s only been in the last few months that she’s slipped up.

That sucks. Especially with Arizona likely to be a key swing state for a while.

[Corrian]

I'm still of the mind that the Senate stays Dem, House goes Republican. But I think both will be very close.

[Yerachmeal]

A friend of mine told me that a few years ago his class was polled Trump vs Hillary. Everybody but one girl voted for Trump. She had the best argument of all time: "What kind of a name is Donald for a president? Neither ducks nor cartoon characters are allowed to be president!" Now she is pro Trump, and denies ever saying that, or voting for Hillary in that class poll.

[Dimetrodon Empire]

The legal loopholes need to be patched with the broken political system while the broken political system needs to be patched with the broken legal system.

Historical events are often slow, but this is the end of our republic.

God willing.

I am not exactly in a love affair with the current system, but if it falls in this way, what will replace it will be far worse. And by far-worse, I mean far-right dictatorship.

[Thermodolia]

During the primaries she was doing great. It’s only been in the last few months that she’s slipped up.

That sucks. Especially with Arizona likely to be a key swing state for a while.

It’s not set in stone that Lake will win. It’s just going to be very close. YouGov has them both tied atm.

So it’s entirely possible that she could be dragged across the finish line by voters voting for Kelly and Adrian
Fontes.

Though it’s entirely possible that while the Gov could be red the sec of state is looking likely to be blue

[Yerachmeal]

God willing.

I am not exactly in a love affair with the current system, but if it falls in this way, what will replace it will be far worse. And by far-worse, I mean far-right dictatorship.

Pleeeese don't tell me that you're one of those people. The ones who think that the republicans are fascist, semi-fascist.

[Thermodolia]

I'm still of the mind that the Senate stays Dem, House goes Republican. But I think both will be very close.

There’s a possibility that the house could remain democrat. Though I’d say that it’s also most certain that the senate will be democrat.

Dems have the advantage in PA, AZ, and GA.

[Yerachmeal]

I'm still of the mind that the Senate stays Dem, House goes Republican. But I think both will be very close.

There’s a possibility that the house could remain democrat. Though I’d say that it’s also most certain that the senate will be democrat.

Dems have the advantage in PA, AZ, and GA.

Warnock was losing in Georgia last I checked. Unless a currently republican seat is losing to a democrat, the republicans will win the senate. It's the house that I think is a toss up, though I think it will remain democrat by 1 or 2 seats.

[Dimetrodon Empire]

I am not exactly in a love affair with the current system, but if it falls in this way, what will replace it will be far worse. And by far-worse, I mean far-right dictatorship.

Pleeeese don't tell me that you're one of those people. The ones who think that the republicans are fascist, semi-fascist.

Not all Republicans are fascist but that faction is certainly taking over the party.

[Thermodolia]

There’s a possibility that the house could remain democrat. Though I’d say that it’s also most certain that the senate will be democrat.

Dems have the advantage in PA, AZ, and GA.

Warnock was losing in Georgia last I checked. Unless a currently republican seat is losing to a democrat, the republicans will win the senate. It's the house that I think is a toss up, though I think it will remain democrat by 1 or 2 seats.

PA is the republican seat that the democrats have an advantage in.

Currently polling has Warnock at 49% over Walkers 46% and even the very republican Trafalgar Group has Warnock winning.

And even if Dems don’t win in Georgia all they need is to hold all other seats and pick up in PA which they’ll do.

Dems have the possibility of gaining 2-3 seats.

[Yerachmeal]

Pleeeese don't tell me that you're one of those people. The ones who think that the republicans are fascist, semi-fascist.

Not all Republicans are fascist but that faction is certainly taking over the party.

Really. Can you name any besides that MTG/Gosar contingent? Look at my manifesto, the only fascism tat you'll see in it is that fascists have a bad education system, and I likely made spelling errors.

Trump is not fascist, he does not believe in limiting freedom of speech, and his website allows all of the anti-Trump comments being made, nor does he believe in conquering the world, laissez-faire economy, or abolishing elections. Calling us fascist is like calling democrats Marxists.

[Cannot think of a name]

At least you except that humans are animals. I get frustrated when people say otherwise.

I always love when people try and make arguments for how "humans are above the animals."
We are animals, and we aren't even what I'd consider the most successful species on earth. Bacteria of many, MANY types still win out there.

I ended up as a dramaturg by explaining to two old theater dudes that evolution doesn't have a direction when they asked if we were more evolved than monkeys and I told "Not when it comes to living in trees."

[San Lumen]

Not all Republicans are fascist but that faction is certainly taking over the party.

Really. Can you name any besides that MTG/Gosar contingent? Look at my manifesto, the only fascism tat you'll see in it is that fascists have a bad education system, and I likely made spelling errors.

Trump is not fascist, he does not believe in limiting freedom of speech, and his website allows all of the anti-Trump comments being made, nor does he believe in conquering the world, laissez-faire economy, or abolishing elections. Calling us fascist is like calling democrats Marxists.

They refuse to accept Trump lost and many statewide candidates for governor and Secretary of State are running on outright lies and there is a good chance they will win in some states.

[Dimetrodon Empire]

His supporters harassed a Biden/Harris campaign bus, assaulted and battered anti-Trump protesters, and TruthSocial shadowbans people.

[Dimetrodon Empire]

https://www.businessinsider.com/truth-s ... ech-2022-8

[Yerachmeal]

Really. Can you name any besides that MTG/Gosar contingent? Look at my manifesto, the only fascism tat you'll see in it is that fascists have a bad education system, and I likely made spelling errors.

Trump is not fascist, he does not believe in limiting freedom of speech, and his website allows all of the anti-Trump comments being made, nor does he believe in conquering the world, laissez-faire economy, or abolishing elections. Calling us fascist is like calling democrats Marxists.

They refuse to accept Trump lost and many statewide candidates for governor and Secretary of State are running on outright lies and there is a good chance they will win in some states.

And this shows that the republican majority is fascist...how?

As we hashed out before, most republicans don't think the election was rigged.

Also, I lean republican. Have I said anything that implieas I'm fascist?

PS: You've ignored all my comments addressed to you for a while. I was beginning to wonder if I was on your foe list.

[Cannot think of a name]

This is just a jungle primary, and those are awful.

Consider:
Republican: 20% of the vote
Republican: 20% of the vote
Democrat: 19% of the vote
Democrat: 19% of the vote
Democrat: 19% of the vote
Libertarians: 2% of the vote
Greens: 1% of the vote

57% of the voters want a Democrat. Only 40% want a Republican. Yet the Republicans, by being slightly more organized, are able to lock everyone else out of the final round of the election.

We've seen this with California's jungle primaries, though the other way around, where the candidates for Senate have been a Democrat and a slightly more conservative Democrat, with everyone else locked out of the election entirely. And while you might say, whatever, it's California, the Democrat's going to win anyway... that above scenario can happen in California, where the Democrats have a large majority of the electorate's support, but the election only provides a choice between two Republicans.

Yikes. I didn’t think about that type of thing.

Sounds to me like parties shouldn't dilute their vote then.

[Yerachmeal]

His supporters harassed a Biden/Harris campaign bus, assaulted and battered anti-Trump protesters, and TruthSocial shadowbans people.

Pretending that's true, this equates to fascism?

[Dimetrodon Empire]

His supporters harassed a Biden/Harris campaign bus, assaulted and battered anti-Trump protesters, and TruthSocial shadowbans people.

Pretending that's true, this equates to fascism?

https://www.businessinsider.com/truth-social-is-shadow-banning-posts-despite-promise-of-free-speech-2022-8

No, but your movement has characteristics in common with fascists. You're proto-fascists.

[Yerachmeal]

Pretending that's true, this equates to fascism?

https://www.businessinsider.com/truth-social-is-shadow-banning-posts-despite-promise-of-free-speech-2022-8

No, but your movement has characteristics in common with fascists. You're proto-fascists.

My movement. I don't even have any of the characteristics that you and San call the republicans call out on except believing in photo ID to vote! I need to hear something about "my movement" that correlates with fascism.

[Cannot think of a name]

I am not exactly in a love affair with the current system, but if it falls in this way, what will replace it will be far worse. And by far-worse, I mean far-right dictatorship.

Pleeeese don't tell me that you're one of those people. The ones who think that the republicans are fascist, semi-fascist.

Are you one of those people that thinks without a holocaust it's not real fascism, it's just sparkling authoritarianism.?

[Dimetrodon Empire]

You said you lean Republican and you went out of your way to defend the party from criticism.

[Cannot think of a name]

They refuse to accept Trump lost and many statewide candidates for governor and Secretary of State are running on outright lies and there is a good chance they will win in some states.

And this shows that the republican majority is fascist...how?

As we hashed out before, most republicans don't think the election was rigged.

Also, I lean republican. Have I said anything that implieas I'm fascist?

PS: You've ignored all my comments addressed to you for a while. I was beginning to wonder if I was on your foe list.

Fascism doesn't require majorities.

[Yerachmeal]

Pleeeese don't tell me that you're one of those people. The ones who think that the republicans are fascist, semi-fascist.

Are you one of those people that thinks without a holocaust it's not real fascism, it's just sparkling authoritarianism.?

No, I'm someone who thinks that without allowing monopolies, having some form of cast system, abolishing elections etc it's not real fascism. I've done my homework. I know Mussolini founded fascism, and that there was a british version of it, as well as an American Nazi Party that takes up less then 1% of the population

[Corrian]

That sucks. Especially with Arizona likely to be a key swing state for a while.

It’s not set in stone that Lake will win. It’s just going to be very close. YouGov has them both tied atm.

So it’s entirely possible that she could be dragged across the finish line by voters voting for Kelly and Adrian
Fontes.

Though it’s entirely possible that while the Gov could be red the sec of state is looking likely to be blue

So it really is just Hobbs, isn't it?