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Who do you think will win come November?

Republicans in Both Houses
41
30%
Republican House, Democratic Senate
57
42%
Democratic House, Republican Senate
12
9%
Democrats in Both Houses
26
19%
 
Total votes : 136

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Ifreann
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Oct 12, 2022 1:10 pm


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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Oct 12, 2022 1:18 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Correct. However, the Democrat leadership are inconsistently competent system politicians. A significant number of Republicans in post or aspiring to be elected are so detached from reality that the only institution they should be entering is one with padded cells.

It is the difference between normal bullshit political twisting of the truth to appeal to demographics and win support for a weak platform vs being utterly deranged.


"Our lies are better than yours" is a solid defense.


How about “Our lies are better then your crazy assed conspiracy lies”
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I was going to post that. I am just chuckling. Now begins the sob stories and the efforts to get it reduced….
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Oct 12, 2022 1:24 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:


I was going to post that. I am just chuckling. Now begins the sob stories and the efforts to get it reduced….

He's gonna have to give up his fancy watches, that's for sure.

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Postby Tarsonis » Wed Oct 12, 2022 1:26 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:


I was going to post that. I am just chuckling. Now begins the sob stories and the efforts to get it reduced….


He'll just declare bankruptcy
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Oct 12, 2022 1:28 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
I was going to post that. I am just chuckling. Now begins the sob stories and the efforts to get it reduced….


He'll just declare bankruptcy


Granted I am hardly the expert in that area; I am under the impression it’s not that simple anymore. Someone who has better knowledge can answer that one.
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
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* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Greater Miami Shores 3 » Wed Oct 12, 2022 1:30 pm

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:and Leftist Democrats always tell the truth and Facts, lol :).


Correct. However, the Democrat leadership are inconsistently competent system politicians. A significant number of Republicans in post or aspiring to be elected are so detached from reality that the only institution they should be entering is one with padded cells.

It is the difference between normal bullshit political twisting of the truth to appeal to demographics and win support for a weak platform vs being utterly deranged.

I got news for you, that is what Republicans say about Leftist Democrats.
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Postby Zurkerx » Wed Oct 12, 2022 1:31 pm



Holy moly, that is a large sum of money. Honestly, I think that's more than what was to be expected: I thought it was around half of that.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Oct 12, 2022 1:34 pm

Zurkerx wrote:


Holy moly, that is a large sum of money. Honestly, I think that's more than what was to be expected: I thought it was around half of that.


Well; it was probably guided by his legion of loons harassing the families and those involve and him making little or no effort to stop it….more like encouraged it.

Sound familiar?
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby American Legionaries » Wed Oct 12, 2022 1:37 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
American Legionaries wrote:
"Our lies are better than yours" is a solid defense.


How about “Our lies are better then your crazy assed conspiracy lies”


*shrug* ideologues gonna ideologue...

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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Oct 12, 2022 1:39 pm

American Legionaries wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
How about “Our lies are better then your crazy assed conspiracy lies”


*shrug* ideologues gonna ideologue...


I am not following you.
*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:26 pm

Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Correct. However, the Democrat leadership are inconsistently competent system politicians. A significant number of Republicans in post or aspiring to be elected are so detached from reality that the only institution they should be entering is one with padded cells.

It is the difference between normal bullshit political twisting of the truth to appeal to demographics and win support for a weak platform vs being utterly deranged.

I got news for you, that is what Republicans say about Leftist Democrats.


Republicans are the real leftists /s
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Postby Greater Guantanamo » Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:35 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:I got news for you, that is what Republicans say about Leftist Democrats.


Republicans are the real leftists.

Elaraborate, lib.

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Postby Blargoblarg » Wed Oct 12, 2022 2:40 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:I got news for you, that is what Republicans say about Leftist Democrats.


Republicans are the real leftists.

I hope you're not serious.

In reality, both Democrats and Republicans are right-wing capitalists. Those of us in this country who are actually leftist have no major party to represent us, just a handful of small third parties that get nowhere because the system is rigged in favor of the two major parties. As a communist in America, voting seems really pointless these days.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:00 pm

Blargoblarg wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Republicans are the real leftists.

I hope you're not serious.

In reality, both Democrats and Republicans are right-wing capitalists. Those of us in this country who are actually leftist have no major party to represent us, just a handful of small third parties that get nowhere because the system is rigged in favor of the two major parties. As a communist in America, voting seems really pointless these days.


I’m not. I’m being facetious. I should have added in an /s
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Oct 12, 2022 3:50 pm



good. He is a despicable evil man and should be made an example of.

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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:00 pm

San Lumen wrote:


good. He is a despicable evil man and should be made an example of.

I don't think anybody except the hard-right are going to feel sorry for him.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:12 pm

Greater Guantanamo wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Republicans are the real leftists.

Elaraborate, lib.


Only a lib would call someone a lib! :eyebrow:
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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:14 pm

Heard a good conspiracy from my conspiracy minded friends. They are cool but have a bit of the crazy.

The punishment of Alex Jones was to get something on the official records so when they get around to Trump who basically does the same thing will get punished!
*I am a master proofreader after I click Submit.
* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby Yerachmeal » Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:14 pm

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Greater Miami Shores 3 wrote:The teachers are often leftists of whatever kinds and teach their leftists anti American views on past and present history or current events.


And rightist teachers coincidentally do the same thing.

I've had several openly rightist teachers, a grand total of 2 of them express their opinions in class. (Both of them are moderate.)
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:15 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Greater Guantanamo wrote:Elaraborate, lib.


Only a lib would call someone a lib! :eyebrow:


Technically, both the Democrats and Republicans can be defined as "liberal," as the current strain of conservatism does come from classical liberalism, despite the ideology now being much more insane and ignoble.
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Postby Ifreann » Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:16 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:Heard a good conspiracy from my conspiracy minded friends. They are cool but have a bit of the crazy.

The punishment of Alex Jones was to get something on the official records so when they get around to Trump who basically does the same thing will get punished!

It would certainly be funny for Donald Trump to lose a billion dollars in court.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:16 pm


Gonna take a whole lotta snake oil to pay that off.
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Postby Dimetrodon Empire » Wed Oct 12, 2022 4:17 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:

Gonna take a whole lotta snake oil to pay that off.


The biggest issue is going to be the man hiding his wealth and declaring bankruptcy.
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