American Politics XIV: The Dawning of the Age of the Pumpkin

[Tarsonis]

No, you've whined about it being unfair. That doesn't make it correct, and it is in fact not true.





Which is why NYC should be a state unto itself, but I digress. The only reason you think that is again, because you think it benefits you to for the rurals to be forced to cowtow to the cities.



The real question is why you keep trying to make this about the republicans, when I've not once advocated for them. Could it be that you're advocating for the Democrats and so you think anyone challenging you is advocating for the Republicans? That's probably it.

Those farmers and small towns are part of the state like everyone else. We cannot and should not make every city its own state.

That's not what I said. I said NYC, specifically NYC, should be its own state. Why? The Metro area has a population of 18,867,000. More than many states combined. If it's geographic size was adjusted for average population density it would look like this: if it makes you feel better they can long island too.

https://laughingsquid.com/new-york-city ... 20Idaho%2C

Democracy is not about only I get to make rules for my area and no one gets to have say over me if it conflicts with my values.

Except that's exactly what you want, and have repeatedly advocated.

Why should Cleveland, Columbus and Cincinnati have to cowtow as you put it to the legislature? Should they be their own city states too?

No, they should be fired into the sun on the back of a giant turtle.

[The Jamesian Republic]

tell me again.

Write a new constitution that guarantees the right to the means of production to all working people, alongside housing, food, water, and medicine as part of a transition to communism. Establish a less centralized and more direct form of democracy, get rid of the police and scrap the military, build new institutions to cover their roles but largely abandon them. Guarantee education to all people, allow for immigration, overhaul the entire transportation system, increase domestic and foreign aid. Criminalize capitalism and try existing capitalists, especially billionaires for crimes against humanity and the environment. Eventually get rid of that state altogether.

Based market socialism universal welfare, and direct democracy. Although I’m not keen on abolishing the military.

[Mattopilos III]

What I have to say on this:
Localism is pretty based.

[San Lumen]

Those farmers and small towns are part of the state like everyone else. We cannot and should not make every city its own state.

That's not what I said. I said NYC, specifically NYC, should be its own city. Why? The Metro area has a population of 18,867,000. More than many states combined. If it's geographic size was adjusted for average population density it would look like this: if it makes you feel better they can long island too.

https://laughingsquid.com/new-york-city ... 20Idaho%2C

Democracy is not about only I get to make rules for my area and no one gets to have say over me if it conflicts with my values.

Except that's exactly what you want, and have repeatedly advocated.

Why shmould Cleveland, Columbus and Cincinnati have to cowtow as you put it to the legislature? Should they be their own city states too?

No, they should be fired into the sun on the back of a giant turtle.

I fail to see why this matters. Why is this only a problem in New York? Chicagoland is 60 percent of Illinois population should they also adopt your unfair system? Maryland is largely urban too. I could give other examples.

That is not what I advocated for at all. It’s what you are advocating for. A legislator from a city should not be able to vote on something that affects a rural area,

[American Legionaries]

Those farmers and small towns are part of the state like everyone else. We cannot and should not make every city its own state.

That's not what I said. I said NYC, specifically NYC, should be its own state. Why? The Metro area has a population of 18,867,000. More than many states combined. If it's geographic size was adjusted for average population density it would look like this: if it makes you feel better they can long island too.

https://laughingsquid.com/new-york-city ... 20Idaho%2C

Democracy is not about only I get to make rules for my area and no one gets to have say over me if it conflicts with my values.

Except that's exactly what you want, and have repeatedly advocated.

Why should Cleveland, Columbus and Cincinnati have to cowtow as you put it to the legislature? Should they be their own city states too?

No, they should be fired into the sun on the back of a giant turtle.

I have an uncle in Cincinnati.

[Alcala-Cordel]

Based market socialism universal welfare, and direct democracy. Although I’m not keen on abolishing the military.

Market socialism is not my end goal.

[Tarsonis]

That's not what I said. I said NYC, specifically NYC, should be its own state. Why? The Metro area has a population of 18,867,000. More than many states combined. If it's geographic size was adjusted for average population density it would look like this: if it makes you feel better they can long island too.

https://laughingsquid.com/new-york-city ... 20Idaho%2C




Except that's exactly what you want, and have repeatedly advocated.



No, they should be fired into the sun on the back of a giant turtle.

I have an uncle in Cincinnati.

...do you like him?

[Washington Resistance Army]

An-coms wonder why their ideology isn't the main one in the world and then say some shit like disband the military. My brother even the Taliban could bring your communism to an end.

[American Legionaries]

I have an uncle in Cincinnati.

...do you like him?

God no, he's a Bernie Bro. Fire up the giant turtle.

[The Jamesian Republic]

Based market socialism universal welfare, and direct democracy. Although I’m not keen on abolishing the military.

Market socialism is not my end goal.

I know.

[Tarsonis]

That's not what I said. I said NYC, specifically NYC, should be its own city. Why? The Metro area has a population of 18,867,000. More than many states combined. If it's geographic size was adjusted for average population density it would look like this: if it makes you feel better they can long island too.

https://laughingsquid.com/new-york-city ... 20Idaho%2C




Except that's exactly what you want, and have repeatedly advocated.



No, they should be fired into the sun on the back of a giant turtle.

I fail to see why this matters. Why is this only a problem in New York? Chicagoland is 60 percent of Illinois population should they also adopt your unfair system?
Maryland is largely urban too. I could give other examples.

No they should adopt my completely fair system that you admitted makes perfect sense.

That is not what I advocated for at all. It’s what you are advocating for.

I live in a city. It benefits me not at all, other than the general benefit of an equitable political system. You continue to project your hypocrisies on to other people.

A legislator from a city should not be able to vote on something that affects a rural area,

Lol, what? I mean that's an interesting Idea, but it would require the complete dissolution of state governments and the federal government. Sit. DOWN Telconi this ain't the rally.

[The Jamesian Republic]

An-coms wonder why their ideology isn't the main one in the world and then say some shit like disband the military. My brother even the Taliban could bring your communism to an end.

That’s what I was thinking.

[San Lumen]

I fail to see why this matters. Why is this only a problem in New York? Chicagoland is 60 percent of Illinois population should they also adopt your unfair system?
Maryland is largely urban too. I could give other examples.

No they should adopt my completely fair system that you admitted makes perfect sense.

That is not what I advocated for at all. It’s what you are advocating for.

I live in a city. It benefits me not at all, other than the general benefit of an equitable political system. You continue to project your hypocrisies on to other people.

A legislator from a city should not be able to vote on something that affects a rural area,

Lol, what? I mean that's an interesting Idea, but it would require the complete dissolution of state governments and the federal government. Sit. DOWN Telconi this ain't the rally.

Remind me what your so called completely fair system is.

[Greater Guantanamo]

tell me again.

Write a new constitution that guarantees the right to the means of production to all working people, alongside housing, food, water, and medicine as part of a transition to communism. Establish a less centralized and more direct form of democracy, get rid of the police and scrap the military, build new institutions to cover their roles but largely abandon them. Guarantee education to all people, allow for immigration, overhaul the entire transportation system, increase domestic and foreign aid. Criminalize capitalism and try existing capitalists, especially billionaires for crimes against humanity and the environment. Eventually get rid of that state altogether.

What America really needs is the Bush Dynasty ruling the country.

[The Jamesian Republic]

What America really needs is the Bush Dynasty ruling the country.

No.

[Greater Guantanamo]

What America really needs is the Bush Dynasty ruling the country.

No.

Yes. And also invading Cuba and turning it into a puppet state called "The Guantanamo Empire"

[American Legionaries]

I fail to see why this matters. Why is this only a problem in New York? Chicagoland is 60 percent of Illinois population should they also adopt your unfair system?
Maryland is largely urban too. I could give other examples.

No they should adopt my completely fair system that you admitted makes perfect sense.

That is not what I advocated for at all. It’s what you are advocating for.

I live in a city. It benefits me not at all, other than the general benefit of an equitable political system. You continue to project your hypocrisies on to other people.

A legislator from a city should not be able to vote on something that affects a rural area,

Lol, what? I mean that's an interesting Idea, but it would require the complete dissolution of state governments and the federal government. Sit. DOWN Telconi this ain't the rally.

Rally?

[The Jamesian Republic]

No.

Yes. And also invading Cuba and turning it into a puppet state called "The Guantanamo Empire"

No. Enough with your imperialism.

[Tarsonis]

No they should adopt my completely fair system that you admitted makes perfect sense.



I live in a city. It benefits me not at all, other than the general benefit of an equitable political system. You continue to project your hypocrisies on to other people.




Lol, what? I mean that's an interesting Idea, but it would require the complete dissolution of state governments and the federal government. Sit. DOWN Telconi this ain't the rally.

Remind me what your so called completely fair system is.

Sigh, Us Federal Government at state level. Amend all state constitutions to adopt a bicameral system, one apportioned by population the other apportioned equally by county/district/whateveryou want to call it. Standardizes government systems, the people get their proportional representations, and where as the inherently less populous areas get a check against their voices being completely drowned out by the inherently larger areas. Everybody wins.

[Greater Guantanamo]

Yes. And also invading Cuba and turning it into a puppet state called "The Guantanamo Empire"

No. Enough with your imperialism.

Yes.

We also need to install Gitmocracy in the entirety of the Americas.

[Tarsonis]

No they should adopt my completely fair system that you admitted makes perfect sense.



I live in a city. It benefits me not at all, other than the general benefit of an equitable political system. You continue to project your hypocrisies on to other people.




Lol, what? I mean that's an interesting Idea, but it would require the complete dissolution of state governments and the federal government. Sit. DOWN Telconi this ain't the rally.

Rally?

To tear down all state governments and the federal government. didn't want you getting overly excited.

[Tarsonis]

What America really needs is the Bush Dynasty ruling the country.

No.

But, and hear me out now,... Jeb.

[The Jamesian Republic]

No. Enough with your imperialism.

Yes.

We also need to install Gitmocracy in the entirety of the Americas.

No.

[Greater Guantanamo]

Yes.

We also need to install Gitmocracy in the entirety of the Americas.

No.

Yes.We need the Rule of Gitmo!

[American Legionaries]

Rally?

To tear down all state governments and the federal government. didn't want you getting overly excited.

I'm hardly an anarchist. I don't mind there being state or federal governments. I just want them to not be scumbags.