How could we fix incelibacy? Can we?
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2022 6:53 amby Incel Argentina
Of the three main pills (blue, red, black) only the last claims that incelibacy is unfixable. Knowing that the pills have each a microscopic following compared to the one at the right, I can't help but think that I should listen to my lefternmost counterparts about what is a possible solution, so I started this thread for you to debate and explain your position.
I am mostly interested in the redpillers' words since the bluepill is generic and most of us know the mainstream """Solutions""" that they propose, but anyone is welcome to reply.
Among the main sources for our blackpill beliefs are:
- The 80/20 theory.
- The JBW Theory; All women are racist.
- The Halo Effect
- The Youngcel Theory (hey that's me):
I am mostly interested in the redpillers' words since the bluepill is generic and most of us know the mainstream """Solutions""" that they propose, but anyone is welcome to reply.
Among the main sources for our blackpill beliefs are:
- The 80/20 theory.
-Can't find the original source, extract from medium.comThis study was conducted to quantify the Tinder socio-economic prospects for males based on the percentage of females that will “like” them. Female Tinder usage data was collected and statistically analyzed to determine the inequality in the Tinder economy. It was determined that the bottom 80% of men (in terms of attractiveness) are competing for the bottom 22% of women and the top 78% of women are competing for the top 20% of men. The Gini coefficient for the Tinder economy based on “like” percentages was calculated to be 0.58. This means that the Tinder economy has more inequality than 95.1% of all the world’s national economies. In addition, it was determined that a man of average attractiveness would be “liked” by approximately 0.87% (1 in 115) of women on Tinder. Also, a formula was derived to estimate a man’s attractiveness level based on the percentage of “likes” he receives on Tinder [...]
From this data (and some data collected for the previous post) we can make an estimate as to the percentage of females on Tinder that are likely to “like” a male based on his attractiveness. This graph is shown as Figure 4. Note that the y-axis is in log scale and the curve is fairly linear. This means the curve has a high correlation to an exponential fit. Therefore, you can gauge your attractiveness level if you “like” all girls and keep track of the percentage of girls that “like” you back with a simple equation:
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attractiveness%=16.8*ln(like%)+52.3
- The JBW Theory; All women are racist.
- From The Incel WikiJBW theory or JBW is short for "Just Be White Theory", and describes the fact that in multiethnic Western societies White men are favored in dating. According to this theory, White males have a high sex appeal on Asian women, thus almost any white man can get a girlfriend in Asia. Some say this also applies to South America and locations in the Western world with high rate of non-white people [...]
Jeremy Meeks and Sterling St. Jacques are considered to be among the best looking black men to have lived in the modern era according to those who rate beauty and style for a living (Model agencies and Couture Houses). Both men have features usually attributed to ethnic Caucasians and Nordics (in other words White peoples) such as slim noses and eye color other than black. Although men such as Seal (musician) and most professional African-American athletes seem to be an obvious rebuttal to this argument, you would be hard pressed to find many White, Asian, Hispanic, Indian, or Arab women willing to date or sleep with such men if they had no idea the man in question was 1) Famous and 2) Wealthy. However if one were to conduct the same 'study' using Mr. Meeks or St. Jacques, one could postulate that there would be a considerably higher amount of women from the above groups who would be willing to sleep with those two men regardless of having known of either being a famous model.
- The Halo Effect
- From The Incel WikiThe halo effect is a theory that posits that various positive traits also increase the (false) impression of other positive traits. E.g. people who are more aesthetically attractive are subconsciously assumed to have a much more virtuous personality and to be much more healthy and to have much higher IQ, none of which is true [...] The halo effect also goes into the implications of such a subconscious stance, such as the subsequent greater career prospects that better looking people get. The opposite of the halo effect is the horn or failo effect [...]
Halo effect allows attractive people to get away with violating any and all social norms, also any negative and or androgynous qualities they may have are over looked, as in literally not noticed or forgiving (see Jeremy Meeks). No one questions Stacy's sexuality despite her strong jawline, and determined attitude, nor Chad's sexuality despite having huge duck lips, and dancing around in a multi colored jumpsuit, but if an incel guy were to wear the exact same outfit, the incel guy would be labeled as gay immediately.
- The Youngcel Theory (hey that's me):
- From The Incel Wiki; youngcel, teenlovepillA youngcel is a teen who is too young to be put into the inceldom spectrum but has some early warning signs.
A youngcel may have some of the characteristics that put them at risk of entering the inceldom spectrum in the future, such as living in a prudishly erotophobic household consisting of a single helicopter parent, being a mouth breather and being autistic. Youngcels have become vastly more common in the past two decades as summarized in the demographics article. A youngcel may also happen to have a higher sex drive than others and hence experience sexlessness as a greater burden. Or a youncel may have fast LH friends who already have sex which may provoke envy.
Today, about half of U.S. 12th graders have never dated, which presents a substantial change in the past decades. This change affects both girls and boys to the same degree. However, it should be noted that generations that grew up during the post-WWII economic boom, boomers and Gen Xers, were special and had particularly early marriages (and likely also onset of sexual activity) compared to earlier generations. While people do presently marry and have sex comparably late, it is not unheard of that people only marry in their mid- to late twenties in human history, though for women, first marriage was typically under the age of 25.
Just start early or teen love pill is a theory that missing out on dating, relationships and sex during the teenage years makes it more difficult to ascend later on. Sexual inexperience can become a turnoff or even a red flag. Moreover, virgins who wait until marriage will also struggle to find someone else who is willing to wait until marriage, as almost everyone has premarital sex [...]
In summary, while most of our sample had discussed sex with friends and experimented with masturbation as teens, most of the virgins and singles did not date. Singles were similar to partnered persons in terms of first sexual experiences, while the majority of virgins reported first sexual experiences that did not include another person. As the data illustrates, virgins and singles may have missed important transitions, and as they got older, their trajectories began to differ from those of their age peers. As Thorton (1990) noted, patterns of sexuality in young adulthood are significantly related to dating, steady dating, and sexual experience in adolescence. It is rare for a teenager to initiate sexual activity outside of a dating relationship. Thus, persons reaching young adulthood without dating may have missed an important opportunity for sexual experience. While virginity and lack of experience are fairly common in teenagers and young adults, by the time many of our respondents reached their mid-twenties they reported feeling left behind by age peers. We suspect that this is especially true for gay, lesbian, and bisexual youth. In fact, all eight of the non-heterosexual respondents in our sample were either virgins or singles. As previous researchers have shown, a major reason for becoming off time in making sexual transitions is the process of coming out to oneself and others (Gonsiorek & Rudolph, 1991). Even for the heterosexuals in our study, however, it appears that lack of dating and sexual experimentation in the teen years may be precursors to problems in adult sexual relationships.