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Postby Neon Lunar Eclipse » Sat Aug 13, 2022 3:29 pm

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Good attempt at being edgy. Still shouldn’t you be complaining about the system for failing to take care of the person who made that happen/


The "system" didn't pump her full of drugs and put her behind the wheel of a motor vehicle. I don't give a fuck that she died; she decided to go for a drive while coked out of her mind, and in the process she destroyed someone's home and nearly killed them. That's not being "edgy"; it's called having empathy for those who deserve it. Heche doesn't, her victims do.


Very well said! I think its very sad reflection on society that so many people misplace their sympathy on those who don't deserve it. Probably just because she was rich and famous.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Aug 13, 2022 3:31 pm

Neon Lunar Eclipse wrote:
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The "system" didn't pump her full of drugs and put her behind the wheel of a motor vehicle. I don't give a fuck that she died; she decided to go for a drive while coked out of her mind, and in the process she destroyed someone's home and nearly killed them. That's not being "edgy"; it's called having empathy for those who deserve it. Heche doesn't, her victims do.


Very well said! I think its very sad reflection on society that so many people misplace their sympathy on those who don't deserve it. Probably just because she was rich and famous.


Funny thing about people. They can actually pity both parties of a sad situation. Still I understand your anger of somebody with wealth and recognition getting a perceived pass.

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Postby Sordhau » Sat Aug 13, 2022 3:33 pm

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The "system" didn't pump her full of drugs and put her behind the wheel of a motor vehicle. I don't give a fuck that she died; she decided to go for a drive while coked out of her mind, and in the process she destroyed someone's home and nearly killed them. That's not being "edgy"; it's called having empathy for those who deserve it. Heche doesn't, her victims do.


Hmpf. That sounded very conservative republican and here I thought you were a communist.


I am not a Communist, I am a Socialist. And if you think a Socialist is going to empathize with a wealthy and privileged elite whose reckless and irresponsible behavior rendered a family homeless and nearly killed them in the process, then you must not know much about the Left. See, when rich people act with contempt or apathy for the people around them we tend to frown on that sort of thing.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Aug 13, 2022 3:36 pm

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Hmpf. That sounded very conservative republican and here I thought you were a communist.


I am not a Communist, I am a Socialist. And if you think a Socialist is going to empathize with a wealthy and privileged elite whose reckless and irresponsible behavior rendered a family homeless and nearly killed them in the process, then you must not know much about the Left. See, when rich people act with contempt or apathy for the people around them we tend to frown on that sort of thing.


Ohhhhhh my apologies. I thought you were a communist.

How you perceived she acted is simply speculation.
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Postby Sordhau » Sat Aug 13, 2022 3:40 pm

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I am not a Communist, I am a Socialist. And if you think a Socialist is going to empathize with a wealthy and privileged elite whose reckless and irresponsible behavior rendered a family homeless and nearly killed them in the process, then you must not know much about the Left. See, when rich people act with contempt or apathy for the people around them we tend to frown on that sort of thing.


Ohhhhhh my apologies. I thought you were a communist.

How you perceived she acted is simply speculation.


It's pretty fucking callous to coke yourself up and then go for a drive my dude. I don't know what you're hoping to gain here by white knighting for a dead rich lady.
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Postby Juristonia » Sat Aug 13, 2022 3:44 pm

Considering her well-known history of sexual abuse, and pretty severe mental issues (hell, at one point she thought she was God and was going to take people to heaven in a spaceship), coked up or not, I do also feel bad for her.
This is clearly someone who needed serious help.
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Postby The Holy Therns » Sat Aug 13, 2022 3:53 pm

Galloism wrote:Well this is unfortunate. Have peace in death Anne, for you had none in life.


Pretty much this. My sympathy for all affected.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sat Aug 13, 2022 3:57 pm

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Ohhhhhh my apologies. I thought you were a communist.

How you perceived she acted is simply speculation.


It's pretty fucking callous to coke yourself up and then go for a drive my dude. I don't know what you're hoping to gain here by white knighting for a dead rich lady.


Oh so it was coke. Last I read they were testing because they took the drug test after the effort to save her(other drugs to sort through).

Still is your issue with her because she was a drug addict or because she had money and some level of fame?

I don’t understand why you think feeling a little pity for messed up person is white knighting?

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Postby Sordhau » Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:01 pm

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It's pretty fucking callous to coke yourself up and then go for a drive my dude. I don't know what you're hoping to gain here by white knighting for a dead rich lady.


Oh so it was coke. Last I read they were testing because they took the drug test after the effort to save her(other drugs to sort through).

Still is your issue with her because she was a drug addict or because she had money and some level of fame?

I don’t understand why you think feeling a little pity for messed up person is white knighting?

Anyways…..


I heard somewhere that it was coke so I'm going off that. If I'm wrong, I'll correct myself.

And I have already explained my position: reckless assholes who put other people at risk don't get my sympathy. I sympathize with drug addicts right up until they decide to go for a drive, demolish someone's home, and nearly kill them in the process. Mental health issues, drug addiction, alcohol addiction, etc. is not an excuse for reckless and irresponsible behavior that puts other people at risk.
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Postby Neon Lunar Eclipse » Sat Aug 13, 2022 4:28 pm

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Oh so it was coke. Last I read they were testing because they took the drug test after the effort to save her(other drugs to sort through).

Still is your issue with her because she was a drug addict or because she had money and some level of fame?

I don’t understand why you think feeling a little pity for messed up person is white knighting?

Anyways…..


I heard somewhere that it was coke so I'm going off that. If I'm wrong, I'll correct myself.

And I have already explained my position: reckless assholes who put other people at risk don't get my sympathy. I sympathize with drug addicts right up until they decide to go for a drive, demolish someone's home, and nearly kill them in the process. Mental health issues, drug addiction, alcohol addiction, etc. is not an excuse for reckless and irresponsible behavior that puts other people at risk.


Exactly! I have known many people who suffer from things like anxiety, autism, depression, and they are responsible people who never do reckless or criminal stuff like this. Why? Because they are good, responsible people. I myself have schizophrenia but have even thought of turning to street drugs or crime.

Heche wasn't a bad, irresponsible person because of her mental problems. She was just a bad person who happened to also have mental problems. The two are not connected. It all depends on your personality traits. People using their mental problems as a clutch to excuse their behavior is a major reason why people don't take this stuff seriously or just view all mentally unhealthy people as a danger to society.
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Postby Finalis » Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:22 am

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Finalis wrote:may she rest knowing she nearly killed numerous innocent people because she couldn't control herself from driving high and drunk


What is wrong with you would write this?

what's wrong with her? she's the one who crashed into a house and could have killed an entire family
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Postby Finalis » Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:23 am

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Finalis wrote:may she rest knowing she nearly killed numerous innocent people because she couldn't control herself from driving high and drunk


How old are you?

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Is it Just Me... Or did anybody else watch her sit up in the Body Bag?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:47 am

Novosoviet wrote:Is it Just Me... Or did anybody else watch her sit up in the Body Bag?


At that point she was still alive. She wasn’t in a body bag.
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Juristonia wrote:Considering her well-known history of sexual abuse, and pretty severe mental issues (hell, at one point she thought she was God and was going to take people to heaven in a spaceship), coked up or not, I do also feel bad for her.
This is clearly someone who needed serious help.

This pretty much sums up my views on the subject.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Aug 14, 2022 11:54 am

Finalis wrote:
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What is wrong with you would write this?

what's wrong with her? she's the one who crashed into a house and could have killed an entire family


Almost.
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Postby Finalis » Sun Aug 14, 2022 3:56 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Finalis wrote:what's wrong with her? she's the one who crashed into a house and could have killed an entire family


Almost.

so?
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Aug 14, 2022 4:25 pm

Finalis wrote:
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Almost.

so?


Facts are a good thing. Situations don’t need edgy crap comments to ramp up things.

The woman was not injured and in fact sent kind wishes to Heche’s family.
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Postby Finalis » Sun Aug 14, 2022 7:11 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Finalis wrote:so?


Facts are a good thing. Situations don’t need edgy crap comments to ramp up things.

The woman was not injured and in fact sent kind wishes to Heche’s family.

it's not edgy, it's true. but i guess i can tone it down.
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Postby San Lumen » Sun Aug 14, 2022 8:48 pm

https://abcnews.go.com/US/anne-heche-di ... d=88139013

Heche was taken off life support earlier today.

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Sordhau wrote:My heart goes out to person whose house she destroyed and nearly killed.


This..

Also reason #7,462,344,910 why taking drugs is fucking retarded!
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Postby The Holy Therns » Tue Aug 16, 2022 3:34 am

San Lumen wrote:https://abcnews.go.com/US/anne-heche-dies-car-crash-family/story?id=88139013

Heche was taken off life support earlier today.


May she rest in peace.
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Postby Emotional Support Crocodile » Tue Aug 16, 2022 3:56 am

James_xenoland wrote:
Sordhau wrote:My heart goes out to person whose house she destroyed and nearly killed.


This..

Also reason #7,462,344,910 why taking drugs is fucking retarded!


Trying to blot out memories of awful childhoods is a not uncommon reason as to why people drink or take drugs.
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