The Ukrainian War IV: "And von Moltke Laughed ..."

[The Selkie]

Then Shoigu should not fear a little trip to the Netherlands, should he? If he is only incompetent, he'd walk away. Or are you implying, that he might be responsible for more, directly or indirectly?
Like various war crimes and crimes against humanity?

The hapless Shoigu would probably be kidnapped by the authorities on trumped-up charges.

I would not miss him. But I would object to the show trial.

Show trials are a Russian speciality. And if the Israelis can give Eichmann a fair trial, then Shoigu can expect the same in the Netherlands.

[Paddy O Fernature]

The hapless Shoigu would probably be kidnapped by the authorities on trumped-up charges.

I would not miss him. But I would object to the show trial.

Show trials are a Russian speciality. And if the Israelis can give Eichmann a fair trial, then Shoigu can expect the same in the Netherlands.

Yes, the infamous Russian "Show Trial", where the defendant mysteriously just turns up dead and mums the word from the laughable authorities.

[Perikuresu]

Show trials are a Russian speciality. And if the Israelis can give Eichmann a fair trial, then Shoigu can expect the same in the Netherlands.

Yes, the infamous Russian "Show Trial", where the defendant mysteriously just turns up dead and mums the word from the laughable authorities.

Also inaccurate, it's just that Russian Windows are creatures far more deadlier than the Hippopotamus

[Glagoly]

Then Shoigu should not fear a little trip to the Netherlands, should he? If he is only incompetent, he'd walk away. Or are you implying, that he might be responsible for more, directly or indirectly?
Like various war crimes and crimes against humanity?

The hapless Shoigu would probably be kidnapped by the authorities on trumped-up charges.

I would not miss him. But I would object to the show trial.

Fabricated accusations. What are these?

[Theodores Tomfooleries]

Putin and Hitler have quite a few similarities to each other.

A comparison with Stalin would be appropriate here.

Do NOT compare Putin to Stalin. Stalin did a shit ton of good for the Soviet Union i.e mass industrialization, introducing writing systems for a bunch of languages, mass literacy programs etc. Putin has not done anything.

[Theodores Tomfooleries]

Except that the USSR actually took ethnically Ukrainian and Belarusian lands that Poland had taken in the Polish-Soviet War and pretty much stuck entirely to those ethnically Ukraino-Belarusian lands (save for Bialystok, which was given back to Poland after the war anyway) while the Germans took entirely Polish regions and set them under a genocidal military-ran government... whereas the annexed Soviet territories were directly incorporated into their respective republics and had a civilian government.

Nationalist revanchism is fine when it's done by the dictatorship you support, I guess.

Ah yes, because taking back unstable ethnically non-polish territory and establishing it under a civilian government is "revanchism". What a joke lol.

[Perikuresu]

Putin has not done anything.

Sorta innacurate considering the guy basically undid centuries of Swedish (military) neutrality in the span of a few days

[Theodores Tomfooleries]

Putin has not done anything.

Sorta innacurate considering the guy basically undid centuries of Swedish (military) neutrality in the span of a few days

Okay, I mean anything positive.

[Paddy O Fernature]

Putin has not done anything.

Sorta innacurate considering the guy basically undid centuries of Swedish (military) neutrality in the span of a few days

I hear he also is a contender for "NATO Salesmen 2022" as well.

[Northern Seleucia]

SBU arrests seven susprected Russian agents in Dnipro

[Northern Seleucia]

Sorta innacurate considering the guy basically undid centuries of Swedish (military) neutrality in the span of a few days

I hear he also is a contender for "NATO Salesmen 2022" as well.

Has done more for NATO than any other since the days of the Soviet Union.

[Northern Seleucia]

Germany is "ready to move quickly" if allies reach a consensus on sending tanks to Ukraine, Germany's Defense Minister Boris Pistorius said Friday.

"As far as the delivery of the Leopard is concerned, there is no unanimous opinion," Pistorius told reporters on the sidelines of a high stakes defense meeting at Ramstein Air Base in Germany.

He rebuffed claims Germany has been "standing in the way" of a "united coalition" of countries in favor of sending tanks to Ukraine.

"There are good reasons for the delivery and there are good reasons against it. And given the overall situation of a war that has been going on for almost one year now, all the pros and cons have to be weighed very carefully, and that assessment is explicitly shared by many allies," he added.

Pistorius said he had instructed officials to carry out an audit of Germany's stocks of Leopard 2 tanks so the country can "move quickly" in the event of a "positive decision."

The Defense Minister added that the issue of export authorizations was not discussed during Friday's meetings.

Poland has been waiting on the go-ahead to send German-made tanks to Ukraine. On Thursday, Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said that if Poland does not get the green light from Germany, it will "do the right thing ourselves."

Copied/Taken Directly from the CNN Article

[The Selkie]

Germany is "ready to move quickly" if allies reach a consensus on sending tanks to Ukraine, Germany's Defense Minister Boris Pistorius said Friday.

"As far as the delivery of the Leopard is concerned, there is no unanimous opinion," Pistorius told reporters on the sidelines of a high stakes defense meeting at Ramstein Air Base in Germany.

He rebuffed claims Germany has been "standing in the way" of a "united coalition" of countries in favor of sending tanks to Ukraine.

"There are good reasons for the delivery and there are good reasons against it. And given the overall situation of a war that has been going on for almost one year now, all the pros and cons have to be weighed very carefully, and that assessment is explicitly shared by many allies," he added.

Pistorius said he had instructed officials to carry out an audit of Germany's stocks of Leopard 2 tanks so the country can "move quickly" in the event of a "positive decision."

The Defense Minister added that the issue of export authorizations was not discussed during Friday's meetings.

Poland has been waiting on the go-ahead to send German-made tanks to Ukraine. On Thursday, Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said that if Poland does not get the green light from Germany, it will "do the right thing ourselves."

Copied/Taken Directly from the CNN Article

Well, at least something is moving.
In contrast, the Spanish are apparently asked if they want to deliver their Leopards as well - I thought we danced that Flamenco already...

[Northern Seleucia]

Germany is "ready to move quickly" if allies reach a consensus on sending tanks to Ukraine, Germany's Defense Minister Boris Pistorius said Friday.

"As far as the delivery of the Leopard is concerned, there is no unanimous opinion," Pistorius told reporters on the sidelines of a high stakes defense meeting at Ramstein Air Base in Germany.

He rebuffed claims Germany has been "standing in the way" of a "united coalition" of countries in favor of sending tanks to Ukraine.

"There are good reasons for the delivery and there are good reasons against it. And given the overall situation of a war that has been going on for almost one year now, all the pros and cons have to be weighed very carefully, and that assessment is explicitly shared by many allies," he added.

Pistorius said he had instructed officials to carry out an audit of Germany's stocks of Leopard 2 tanks so the country can "move quickly" in the event of a "positive decision."

The Defense Minister added that the issue of export authorizations was not discussed during Friday's meetings.

Poland has been waiting on the go-ahead to send German-made tanks to Ukraine. On Thursday, Polish Prime Minister Mateusz Morawiecki said that if Poland does not get the green light from Germany, it will "do the right thing ourselves."

Copied/Taken Directly from the CNN Article

Well, at least something is moving.
In contrast, the Spanish are apparently asked if they want to deliver their Leopards as well - I thought we danced that Flamenco already...

The Spanish pulled out of that deal, huh?
What have they contributed so far?

[The Selkie]

Well, at least something is moving.
In contrast, the Spanish are apparently asked if they want to deliver their Leopards as well - I thought we danced that Flamenco already...

The Spanish pulled out of that deal, huh?
What have they contributed so far?

Aside from taking in refugees and humanitarian aid, to my understanding, a lot of money, for starters.

[Emotional Support Crocodile]

It seems out of character for the Germans not to move quickly with tanks.

[Enaia]

It seems out of character for the Germans not to move quickly with tanks.

"Third time's the charm" isnt for them IG

[Northern Seleucia]

The Spanish pulled out of that deal, huh?
What have they contributed so far?

Aside from taking in refugees and humanitarian aid, to my understanding, a lot of money, for starters.

That's a good bit of money.
From a quick Google search, I got this:

• 1 RG-31 Nyala MRAP
• Two HAWK Air Defense Systems
• Six Light Howitzers (Not sure what model/type this refers to)
• URO VAMTAC vehicles
• Instala C90s
• Pledged, but undelivered, 20 M113s

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

At the Hague

I am tired of this horseplay regarding the Hague.

The only crime Shoigu is guilty of is incompetence.

only crime?

[Northern Seleucia]

I am tired of this horseplay regarding the Hague.

The only crime Shoigu is guilty of is incompetence.

only crime?

bUT NaTo chArTeR ViOLaTeD TwiCe!!

[Bahrimontagn]

Shoigu must pay.

At the Hague

Once Bush is in the dock at The Hague, then maybe we can talk about Shoigu being there.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

At the Hague

Once Bush is in the dock at The Hague, then maybe we can talk about Shoigu being there.

yeah uh id rather get the modern day Keitel before we get the modern day clown.

[Ifreann]

Once Bush is in the dock at The Hague, then maybe we can talk about Shoigu being there.

yeah uh id rather get the modern day Keitel before we get the modern day clown.

Maybe if Shoigu starts making some funny little gaffs and hanging around with Ellen DeGeneres he'll be forgiven for his war crimes.

[-Astoria-]

At the Hague

Once Bush is in the dock at The Hague, then maybe we can talk about Shoigu being there.

Why not both?

[Laka Strolistandiler]

According to Russian sources up to 8 localities have been “liberated” in the zaporozhia region today.

Is this the end?