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Postby Perikuresu » Sat Sep 10, 2022 6:46 am


Does that mean they're gonna use the nukes? Hope not
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Sep 10, 2022 6:52 am

Perikuresu wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:obligatory popcorn gif

Does that mean they're gonna use the nukes? Hope not

More like "more Tajiks to the front, stat".

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Postby Picairn » Sat Sep 10, 2022 6:57 am

Video confirmation that Ukrainians have reached Izyum.

Unconfirmed reports that Ukrainian forces have taken an oil refinery west of Lysychansk.

Guys imagine if the entire Donbass front unravels in 3 days - that's gonna make the historical record!
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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Sep 10, 2022 6:58 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Perikuresu wrote:Does that mean they're gonna use the nukes? Hope not

More like "more Tajiks to the front, stat".

They have sent Kadyrovites to Kherson as well.
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Postby Port Caverton » Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:11 am

Adamede wrote:
Basedissippi wrote:Did Azov wipe out those crypto-commies yet

While they do fly a lot of Soviet flags most of the Russian fighters are more fascistic than anything else.

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Postby Picairn » Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:18 am

Fully expect that when I wake up tomorrow, Velykyi Burluk, Vovchansk, East Kupiansk will fall/be attacked, with the rest of the Russian Army taking a new defensive line on the other side of the Oskil River or running off all the way back to Luhansk Oblast borders.

Or Ukraine stops and consolidates its gains. Still, this is a great victory, and we might see Russia's eventual expulsion from Kharkiv Oblast sooner than we thought.
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Postby Perikuresu » Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:24 am

Picairn wrote:Fully expect that when I wake up tomorrow, Velykyi Burluk, Vovchansk, East Kupiansk will fall/be attacked, with the rest of the Russian Army taking a new defensive line on the other side of the Oskil River or running off all the way back to Luhansk Oblast borders.

Or Ukraine stops and consolidates its gains. Still, this is a great victory, and we might see Russia's eventual expulsion from Kharkiv Oblast sooner than we thought.

No Izyum or Savyntsi? It hasn't been official yet.

Still, I hope all of Kharkiv is liberated and the Ukrainians are closer to Kherson city by tmw
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Postby Picairn » Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:26 am

Perikuresu wrote:No Izyum or Savyntsi? It hasn't been official yet.

Still, I hope all of Kharkiv is liberated and the Ukrainians are closer to Kherson city by tmw

Izyum has already fallen, you saw the Ukrainian flag and the Russians have abandoned it according to multiple Russian sources.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:29 am

It seems like the official Russian cope is that they withdrew from Izyum to better focus on protecting Donetsk lol
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:32 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:It seems like the official Russian cope is that they withdrew from Izyum to better focus on protecting Donetsk lol

Weak
The OG Nazis were claiming they were scoring great victories right up until the Battle of Berlin.

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Postby The New California Republic » Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:49 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:It seems like the official Russian cope is that they withdrew from Izyum to better focus on protecting Donetsk lol

They are claiming it was an orderly withdrawal lol, orderly withdrawals don't result in the large volumes of ammunition and vehicles being left behind which we are starting to see.
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Postby The Selkie » Sat Sep 10, 2022 7:50 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:It seems like the official Russian cope is that they withdrew from Izyum to better focus on protecting Donetsk lol

Weak
The OG Nazis were claiming they were scoring great victories right up until the Battle of Berlin.


Or that they were consolidating the front right through Berlin.
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Postby Chan Island » Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:11 am

Hey, remember how the Russia fans kept crowing at us for months that the Ukrainians were unable to attack? How every meter of ground they gained was permanent because they had great defence?

They real quiet now.
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Postby Perikuresu » Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:19 am

Chan Island wrote:Hey, remember how the Russia fans kept crowing at us for months that the Ukrainians were unable to attack? How every meter of ground they gained was permanent because they had great defence?

They real quiet now.

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Postby Picairn » Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:20 am

Chan Island wrote:Hey, remember how the Russia fans kept crowing at us for months that the Ukrainians were unable to attack? How every meter of ground they gained was permanent because they had great defence?

They real quiet now.

Turns out those "permanent" meters of ground relied on a nonexistent base. Ukraine is pushing all the way to Vovchansk and Velikyi Burluk with little resistance from the Russians, undoing all those months of grinding.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:26 am

Picairn wrote:
Chan Island wrote:Hey, remember how the Russia fans kept crowing at us for months that the Ukrainians were unable to attack? How every meter of ground they gained was permanent because they had great defence?

They real quiet now.

Turns out those "permanent" meters of ground relied on a nonexistent base. Ukraine is pushing all the way to Vovchansk and Velikyi Burluk with little resistance from the Russians, undoing all those months of grinding.


It took Russia actual months (arguably even years given they were in Donetsk and Luhansk in 2014) to take all this ground and they’ve lost a massive portion of it in less than a week. It’s actually astounding.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:29 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:It seems like the official Russian cope is that they withdrew from Izyum to better focus on protecting Donetsk lol

They are claiming it was an orderly withdrawal lol, orderly withdrawals don't result in the large volumes of ammunition and vehicles being left behind which we are starting to see.

Ah well you see, the brave and clever Russian soldiers abandoned those vehicles on purpose, because they're cursed, and when the foolish Ukrainians capture them then they will be plagued by evil spirits.

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Postby Lower Nubia » Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:31 am

Chan Island wrote:Hey, remember how the Russia fans kept crowing at us for months that the Ukrainians were unable to attack? How every meter of ground they gained was permanent because they had great defence?

They real quiet now.


Yeah, I made bets with a lot of people who thought Russia would take the Donbas in a month's time (that was in April). Well, just doing the rounds reminding them it's been 5 months.
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Postby Picairn » Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:34 am

If I were Putin right now I'd stop inhaling copium and restart peace negotiations. Preserving pre-Feb. 24 borders at this point is better than continuing a lost war and potentially lose all territory.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:36 am

Picairn wrote:If I were Putin right now I'd stop inhaling copium and restart peace negotiations. Preserving pre-Feb. 24 borders at this point is better than continuing a lost war and potentially lose all territory.


This is the smart option but I honestly don’t think he can do it at this point. If you go on Russian telegram channels and other spaces the stab in the back mythos is already taking shape and Putin is getting a lot of the blame. If he fully admits defeat and tries to come back to the table to talk I’m not sure he could hold onto power.
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Postby Northrop » Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:37 am

No matter how many Ukrainian victories I hear about, the Wikipedia map doesn't seem to have changed since about mid-March.

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Postby Continental Free States » Sat Sep 10, 2022 8:39 am

Ifreann wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:They are claiming it was an orderly withdrawal lol, orderly withdrawals don't result in the large volumes of ammunition and vehicles being left behind which we are starting to see.

Ah well you see, the brave and clever Russian soldiers abandoned those vehicles on purpose, because they're cursed, and when the foolish Ukrainians capture them then they will be plagued by evil spirits.

All jokes aside with how much equipment they're leaving, I'm actually surprised they haven't booby-trapped the anything that they couldn't take with them.
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