The Ukrainian War IV: "And von Moltke Laughed ..."

[Tarsonis]

Nazis didnt use prussian imagrey or work hard to keep statues of them up.

Except for eagle emblems, Litzen, "Gott mit uns", Totenkopf, Jagdgeschwader Richthofen, the fucking Iron Cross...

The iron cross was first issued in 1813. Of all the Nazi imagery, it's the least definitively Nazi.

[Bovad]

This is the Azov Battalion that has more manpower than the Chinese Army, right?

And bases in every country, continent, and planet in the solar system. (Pluto too. they might be Nazis, but they get the damn number of Planets right)

Stop making up things we never said.

[Tarsonis]

And bases in every country, continent, and planet in the solar system. (Pluto too. they might be Nazis, but they get the damn number of Planets right)

Stop making up things we never said.

Stop trying to pretend obvious jokes are serious.

[Bovad]

Stop making up things we never said.

Stop trying to pretend obvious jokes are serious.

It was clearly sarcasm claiming it was imitating us.

[The Two Jerseys]

Stop trying to pretend obvious jokes are serious.

It was clearly sarcasm claiming it was imitating us.

You're the Russians now?

[Tarsonis]

Stop trying to pretend obvious jokes are serious.

It was clearly sarcasm claiming it was imitating us.

........what?

[Tarsonis]

It was clearly sarcasm claiming it was imitating us.

You're the Russians now?

at this point I need a map of who is making fun of who

[Bovad]

It was clearly sarcasm claiming it was imitating us.

You're the Russians now?

No, "we" are people who are neutral here.

[Tarsonis]

You're the Russians now?

No, "we" are people who are neutral here.

Okay, yeah I wasn't imitating "neutral" people. (you don't exist to me, you're just lowkey Russia supporters as far as I'm concerned.) I was sharing a long standing joke with AHB. You weren't involved at all and shouldn't have bothered to interject.

[Bovad]

No, "we" are people who are neutral here.

Okay, yeah I wasn't imitating "neutral" people. (you don't exist to me, you're just lowkey Russia supporters as far as I'm concerned.) I was sharing a long standing joke with AHB. You weren't involved at all and shouldn't have bothered to interject.

Knock off the false dictotomy.

[Tarsonis]

Okay, yeah I wasn't imitating "neutral" people. (you don't exist to me, you're just lowkey Russia supporters as far as I'm concerned.) I was sharing a long standing joke with AHB. You weren't involved at all and shouldn't have bothered to interject.

Knock off the false dictotomy.

No. You either support or denounce genocide. There's no neutral ground.

[Bovad]

Knock off the false dictotomy.

No. You either support or denounce genocide. There's no neutral ground.

When both sides support genocide and both have done several terrorist attacks, then yeah, there is a middle ground.

[Spirit of Hope]

No. You either support or denounce genocide. There's no neutral ground.

When both sides support genocide and both have done several terrorist attacks, then yeah, there is a middle ground.

Maybe I've missed it, but when has Ukraine been torturing and executing civilians, raping women, and conducted terror bombings of Russian cities?

[Tarsonis]

No. You either support or denounce genocide. There's no neutral ground.

When both sides support genocide and both have done several terrorist attacks, then yeah, there is a middle ground.

Except that's false, only one side is. You're pushing Kremlin talking points, hence why I say you're a low key Russia supporter, cause you are.


It's fucking routine at this point:

Player says they're neutral.

When questioned Player pushes Russia's false narrative.

Player drops facade and supports Russia.


you've gone through steps one and two, let's get to 3 and save some time.

[Czervenika]

When both sides support genocide and both have done several terrorist attacks, then yeah, there is a middle ground.

Maybe I've missed it, but when has Ukraine been torturing and executing civilians, raping women, and conducted terror bombings of Russian cities?

Just wait. He'll probably bring up Donetsk.

[Bovad]

When both sides support genocide and both have done several terrorist attacks, then yeah, there is a middle ground.

Except that's false, only one side is. You're pushing Kremlin talking points, hence why I say you're a low key Russia supporter, cause you are.


It's fucking routine at this point:

Player says they're neutral.

When questioned Player pushes Russia's false narrative.

Player drops facade and supports Russia.


you've gone through steps one and two, let's get to 3 and save some time.

I'm not pushing russias narative, did you miss the part about a page ago where I said russia lied.

[Bovad]

When both sides support genocide and both have done several terrorist attacks, then yeah, there is a middle ground.

Maybe I've missed it, but when has Ukraine been torturing and executing civilians, raping women, and conducted terror bombings of Russian cities?

Most certainly the bombings part.

[Spirit of Hope]

Maybe I've missed it, but when has Ukraine been torturing and executing civilians, raping women, and conducted terror bombings of Russian cities?

Most certainly the bombings part.

Can you provide examples?

[Czervenika]

Maybe I've missed it, but when has Ukraine been torturing and executing civilians, raping women, and conducted terror bombings of Russian cities?

Most certainly the bombings part.

If Ukraine is doing any bombing it's very likely in self-defense. Russia struck first. That is fact.

[The Two Jerseys]

Maybe I've missed it, but when has Ukraine been torturing and executing civilians, raping women, and conducted terror bombings of Russian cities?

Most certainly the bombings part.

Ukraine is Rotterdamming Russian cities now?

[Tarsonis]

Except that's false, only one side is. You're pushing Kremlin talking points, hence why I say you're a low key Russia supporter, cause you are.


It's fucking routine at this point:

Player says they're neutral.

When questioned Player pushes Russia's false narrative.

Player drops facade and supports Russia.


you've gone through steps one and two, let's get to 3 and save some time.

I'm not pushing russias narative, did you miss the part about a page ago where I said russia lied.

Irrelevant. You're lying about Ukraine supporting genocide, they don't. Russia is litterally waging a genocidal campaign against Ukraine. Ukraine is not doing the same. Any both sidesing here is equivocation on Russia's behalf.

Ukraine isnt launching terrorist attacks. Russia calls Ukraines legitimate military strikes "terrorist attacks" while Russia specifically targets civilians.

Any both sidesing here is a equivocation on Russia's behalf.

You're backing Russia.

[El Lazaro]

Um. Including Zelenskiyy?

Azov.

This Azov, is he the PM? A party leader? An MP? Even a mayor or something would count.

[Laka Strolistandiler]

Comrades, I’ve got you a tail of misadventures of a Russian mobilized unit. I’ve taken time to google translate it and believe that you’ll enjoy the read:

“09/26/22, training was carried out with us: shooting, engineering, medicine. Each training took approximately 10-15 minutes.

On September 27, 22, at 23:30, we were mobilized from the 1st motorized rifle division of Tamansk and sent to the Belgorod region, loading into the echelon. We do not have any documents on mobilization, up to the date of this appeal, in our hands. When sent to the place of deployment, platoons and companies were not formed, we were simply abandoned, there was no information and understanding of who, where and with whom they were going, without commanders and those responsible.

03.10.22 <…> we entered the LPR.

On 10/04/22, in the time interval between 10:30-11:00 am, we were taken to a forest belt, near the village of XXX, LPR. 10 minutes after our arrival, mortar shells flew at our positions, and we suffered the first losses. Closer to the night, because of all this confusion, shooting began between their own. As we were told, no one was injured. The 1st company of the 1st battalion gathered and left their positions in the direction of the checkpoint (g. XXX), where by morning they were turned around and sent back.

10/05/22 At about 12:00 noon, we were told to load all our personal belongings with medicines, warm clothes, food, shovels, ammunition and documents into the armored personnel carrier <...> By the evening, by order of the colonel, with the call sign "Berkut", this armored personnel carrier left the forest belt with people from the 1st company, consisting of 20 people. It was no longer known where this armored personnel carrier had gone, and no one answered this question, no one else saw anyone.

On 10/06/22 early in the morning we were informed that we were going to capture Krasny Liman, consisting of one armored personnel carrier and 25 unprepared people.

10/06/22 <...> Mortar shelling began on us, after the first hit, 1 person was seriously injured, and 6 people received shrapnel wounds in the legs and arms.

We ourselves began to take our people to the nearest village, where we found a bomb shelter and where we provided first aid. The shelling did not stop, we left the bomb shelter and carried the wounded and their weapons to the safe zone, where we were taken by an armored personnel carrier of a company unknown to me. One seriously wounded was put on an armored personnel carrier and taken away, soon, on the same armored personnel carrier, he died. His name was Nikita, unfortunately I don’t remember the last names, it’s hard to remember all the guys.

On 10/07/22, early in the morning, the order was again received to assemble to capture the village ... Fire began on us from both sides, someone heard the Polish language of the mercenaries. We chose, as best we could, along forest belts. They requested evacuation, to which we were told: “you are in the black zone, no one will come for you.” Together with the shell-shocked colonel, we were left with 7 people out of approximately 60 people <…>. We caught passing tankers and guys in the Urals. We were picked up and taken to the checkpoint, then we moved on foot. A car drove towards us with Colonel-General L., who told us: ‘If you cross the checkpoint, I will personally shoot you!’”

There is a sequel part to the story I’ll translate it you you if would like me to

[The Selkie]

You're the Russians now?

at this point I need a map of who is making fun of who

Mark me down as "making fun of everyone and the kitchen sink", please.

In other news...
ORF reports, that Zelensky is continuously sending morale-boosting slogans. He still speaks of "high intensity combat", especially around Donetzk. However, he also speaks of how the Ukraine is going to prepare for winter, especially in the areas away from the front lines, where Russian missiles and air strikes destroyed infrastructure. He calls Russia a terrorist state for using winter as a weapon against both the Ukraine and Europe, but they are, according to him, doing everything to make that plan fail "like so many before it."
And another one is travelling, a certain Nikolai Patruschew, head of the national security council, is making a trip to Iran for talks about security. Quite likely, and that is my theory, they are more talking about how to intensify the delivery of Iranian kamikaze drones (God, I hate that term) to Russia.

[Tarsonis]

at this point I need a map of who is making fun of who

Mark me down as "making fun of everyone and the kitchen sink", please.

In other news...
ORF reports, that Zelensky is continuously sending morale-boosting slogans. He still speaks of "high intensity combat", especially around Donetzk. However, he also speaks of how the Ukraine is going to prepare for winter, especially in the areas away from the front lines, where Russian missiles and air strikes destroyed infrastructure. He calls Russia a terrorist state for using winter as a weapon against both the Ukraine and Europe, but they are, according to him, doing everything to make that plan fail "like so many before it."
And another one is travelling, a certain Nikolai Patruschew, head of the national security council, is making a trip to Iran for talks about security. Quite likely, and that is my theory, they are more talking about how to intensify the delivery of Iranian kamikaze drones (God, I hate that term) to Russia.

Well that's just mean. What did the sink ever do to anybody?