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Please consider the following hypothetical.

A deathmatch between 1 billion lions and 1 of every Pokémon is put together. These numbers are static and do not change, excepting the death of a lion or the death/fainting of a Pokémon.

Rules:

- The battle takes place on a flat grassland.
- Assume that the lions can attack flying and water-based Pokémon, and that Pokémon who live in certain environments have been genetically altered to be able to survive on the battlefield.
- Do not take PokéDex entries into account, as most are just outright illogical (come on, how is Magcargo hotter than the surface of the sun?).
- Assume all Pokémon are level 50 and every lion is in its prime.

Who wins and why?

not really smort, so pokemons.





there's a pokemon named amoongus

1 billion Lions.

The Pokémon will be heavily overwhelmed, especially the massive ones. But then again, there are exceptions. Which there aren’t so unfortunately it’s Lion Game.

Depending on the level of the pokemon, if they're all level one than the lions.

Vallahalla wrote:Depending on the level of the pokemon, if they're all level one than the lions.

good point. i'll add a rule stipulating a reasonable level 50, then

-ignore doublepost-

That’s such an unfair contest - legendaries, anyone? - it’s not even funny. Pokémon win, easily.

dont those games literally let you add Literal God to your team, lions get mogged ez

Hispida wrote:I used to be on the side of Pokémon. I'll admit it. but hear me out.

There are 905 Pokémon. Each Pokémon can have a maximum of 4 moves, which is a total of around 3260 moves.

If each move has 64 PP, that's only about 238,000 moves, not all of which are damaging. 238,000 is far less than 1 billion.

Also, one billion lions is a lot of lions.

Lions don't have any moves or PP or stats, and there are Pokémon moves that can target all opponents. The lions would all get one shot.

Pokémon, while PP may run out, Earthquake alone could take out most of the lions.

The Pokemon. What is a pile of lions gonna do? Most of the lions will be smothered by other lions. Those that aren't would probably fight each other.

pokemon, eas-

Do not take PokéDex entries into account

oh, uhhhh

perish song.

Gengar, Politoed, Mismagius (Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl), and Cursola all start with perish song, which affects all pokemon on the battlefield. let's be generous and suppose that it applies to lions as well. so the strategy might go something like:

> pokemon create protective circle around trainer, who recalls one pokemon. layers (from outermost to innermost) go high attack, support, and high defense.
> other pokemon are sent out as distractions to avoid the lions dog-piling the trainer. ideally ghost-types, as ghost-types are immune to normal-type (which is what I assume lions are) moves. for the sake of the hypothetical, let's assume that they're just very strong against normal-type moves and not actually immune
> perish song time
> after perish song, trainer sends out recalled pokemon, who is not affected by the perish song
> the pokemon wall just needs to survive 4 turns. (idk what a turn would be irl, but I guess you could define it as like 10 seconds or something)
> all lions faint, as does every pokemon but one
> victory
> purchase several hundred healing potions

Rakhalia wrote:dont those games literally let you add Literal God to your team, lions get mogged ez

we're assuming the Pokedex entries don't count. outside the Pokedex, Arceus and the other gods are just Pokemon (albeit strong ones).

Le Enclave Reformas wrote:there's a pokemon named amoongus

it's colored like a pokeball, so I guess you could say it's an imposter.

The United Penguin Commonwealth wrote:

Le Enclave Reformas wrote:there's a pokemon named amoongus

it's colored like a pokeball, so I guess you could say it's an imposter.

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The United Penguin Commonwealth wrote:pokemon, eas-

Do not take PokéDex entries into account

oh, uhhhh

perish song.

Gengar, Politoed, Mismagius (Brilliant Diamond/Shining Pearl), and Cursola all start with perish song, which affects all pokemon on the battlefield. let's be generous and suppose that it applies to lions as well. so the strategy might go something like:

> pokemon create protective circle around trainer, who recalls one pokemon. layers (from outermost to innermost) go high attack, support, and high defense.
> other pokemon are sent out as distractions to avoid the lions dog-piling the trainer. ideally ghost-types, as ghost-types are immune to normal-type (which is what I assume lions are) moves. for the sake of the hypothetical, let's assume that they're just very strong against normal-type moves and not actually immune
> perish song time
> after perish song, trainer sends out recalled pokemon, who is not affected by the perish song
> the pokemon wall just needs to survive 4 turns. (idk what a turn would be irl, but I guess you could define it as like 10 seconds or something)
> all lions faint, as does every pokemon but one
> victory
> purchase several hundred healing potions

You don't even need a trainer to recall a pokemon, since pokemon with the Soundproof ability are unaffected by PS anyway. There's 17 mons that can have it (including the tank that is Bastiodon) so if even one of those can survive long enough, it's GG.

Ignoring lions tend to fight each other….he didn’t exclude the legendaries.

Luna Amore wrote:The Pokemon. What is a pile of lions gonna do? Most of the lions will be smothered by other lions. Those that aren't would probably fight each other.

Silly boy; that’s a gaming standard. Once in the crappy game known as Game of War: Fire age; I was attacked by an army of 1 trillion…….I soon stopped playing after that for various reasons……

Unless you have like a level 100…muto? (I’m 100% sure I said it wrong) I’m pretty sure the lions will win

The Black Forrest wrote:

Luna Amore wrote:The Pokemon. What is a pile of lions gonna do? Most of the lions will be smothered by other lions. Those that aren't would probably fight each other.

Silly boy; that’s a gaming standard. Once in the crappy game known as Game of War: Fire age; I was attacked by an army of 1 trillion…….I soon stopped playing after that for various reasons……

bro imagine the gigachad named b u m i losing a game

Necroghastia wrote:You don't even need a trainer to recall a pokemon, since pokemon with the Soundproof ability are unaffected by PS anyway.

oh, I misread this part of bulbapedia:

Pokémon with Soundproof are no longer immune to their own moves; consequently, if a Pokémon uses Perish Song, it will now gain a perish count even if it has Soundproof.

for some reason I read that as "Pokemon with Soundproof are no longer immune to Perish Song".

Hispida wrote:Also, one billion lions is a lot of lions.[/spoiler]

The rear of the lion army is likely to collapse into cannibalistic infighting before it ever gets into striking range of the Pokémon lines, and to be disrupted by retreating elements that have been wounded or frightened by various ranged attacks.

The ones that throw fire and lightning seem like a decent bet.

Le Enclave Reformas wrote:

The Black Forrest wrote:
Silly boy; that’s a gaming standard. Once in the crappy game known as Game of War: Fire age; I was attacked by an army of 1 trillion…….I soon stopped playing after that for various reasons……

bro imagine the gigachad named b u m i losing a game

Can I have this as a theme song? You have been warned.

https://youtu.be/ctkmxYkfAsY

1 billion (WTF) against 150 of whatever? Yeah... my bet is on the numbers here.