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Inner Albania
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Should Kosovo be recognized?

Postby Inner Albania » Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:28 am

Alright... so what exactly is Kosovo? Let's keep it brief, shall we?

Kosovo is a partially-recognized country in Southeast Europe. In the 1990s, there were mass movements in Kosovo which called for the transfer of Kosovo to Albania (or at the very least, the seperation of Kosovo from Yugoslavia). This led to a war known as the Kosovo War, which eventually resulted in de facto political and economic independence from FR Yugoslavia (later Serbia, after Montenegro declared independence). In 2008, Kosovo declared independence from Serbia. Unfortunately, not all countries agreed to Kosovo's independence, most notably Serbia itself.

Most recently, following the invasion of Ukraine, tension in Kosovo rose.

So, do you think Kosovo should be a country? Explain why, or why not Kosovo should, or shouldn't be a country.
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Postby Rakhalia » Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:50 am

As always, I reaffirm my steadfast belief that Kosovo and all its people should be placed in the capable hands of albania
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Postby Vistulange » Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:53 am

Inner Albania wrote:Alright... so what exactly is Kosovo? Let's keep it brief, shall we?


Oh, goodness. We're about to see a trend where we start with the practically plausible and sensible, then go down to the most obscure microstate which literally nobody gives a shit about, while making threads about each and every one of them "Should [X] be recognised", starting with the same boilerplate "Alright, so what exactly is [X]?" OP, aren't we?

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Postby Rakhalia » Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:55 am

Vistulange wrote:
Inner Albania wrote:Alright... so what exactly is Kosovo? Let's keep it brief, shall we?


Oh, goodness. We're about to see a trend where we start with the practically plausible and sensible, then go down to the most obscure microstate which literally nobody gives a shit about, while making threads about each and every one of them "Should [X] be recognised", starting with the same boilerplate "Alright, so what exactly is [X]?" OP, aren't we?

Yeah, this is a good time to take a break from NSG again.

are u sure u dont want to debate ab the viability of the principality of sealand as a recognised nation-state
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Postby Forever Indomitable » Thu Aug 04, 2022 5:56 am

Something is yours until someone can take it from you, and I myself am an ethnic separatist, so, I guess I do recognize Kosovo. It's a beautiful corner of Europe and I've always found Albanian women attractive. I used to occasionally daydream about moving there, but there's no tech economy.
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Postby The North Polish Union » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:07 am

Forever Indomitable wrote:Something is yours until someone can take it from you, and I myself am an ethnic separatist, so, I guess I do recognize Kosovo. It's a beautiful corner of Europe and I've always found Albanian women attractive. I used to occasionally daydream about moving there, but there's no tech economy.

I for one would not want to live in an illegitimate mafia state where the beautiful women would be as likely to steal your kidneys as your heart, but you do you I guess.
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Postby Arisyan » Thu Aug 04, 2022 7:09 am

Kosovo is Albania, that is all.
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Postby Sordhau » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:25 am

Solidarity with all peoples seeking self-determination.

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Postby Risottia » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:31 am

Sordhau wrote:Solidarity with all peoples seeking self-determination.

o7

So I guess with North Kosovars too?
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Postby Rakhalia » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:35 am

The North Polish Union wrote:
Forever Indomitable wrote:Something is yours until someone can take it from you, and I myself am an ethnic separatist, so, I guess I do recognize Kosovo. It's a beautiful corner of Europe and I've always found Albanian women attractive. I used to occasionally daydream about moving there, but there's no tech economy.

I for one would not want to live in an illegitimate mafia state where the beautiful women would be as likely to steal your kidneys as your heart, but you do you I guess.

"Albanian women will probably steal your kidneys" is a racist sentiment
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Postby Rakhalia » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:36 am

Risottia wrote:
Sordhau wrote:Solidarity with all peoples seeking self-determination.

o7

So I guess with North Kosovars too?

1938:

"Solidarity with the Czechs defending their independence!"
Risottia: "And the right of the Sudeten Germans to self-determination?"

minority populations in small insignificant regions are not good grounds for bullying weaker countries because the latter is the main concern here
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Postby Sordhau » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:42 am

Risottia wrote:
Sordhau wrote:Solidarity with all peoples seeking self-determination.

o7

So I guess with North Kosovars too?


If they want to leave and join Serbia then that is their decision. It's their land, they live there. Pristina can cry about it and cope; Belgrade can do the same over the rest of Kosovo.

As I said: solidarity with all peoples seeking self-determination. Exceptions to this are limited to people who want to do what the CSA did and create a white ethnostate to protect slavery. Thankfully most independence movements aren't nearly so reactionary.
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Postby Galtiof » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:45 am

Kosovo is Serbian.

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Postby Inner Albania » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:45 am

Galtiof wrote:Kosovo is Serbian.

Ah yes, the classic "Kosovo je Srbija" statement.
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Postby Sordhau » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:48 am

Galtiof wrote:Kosovo is Serbian.


Serbia is Croatia
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Postby Arisyan » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:50 am

Sordhau wrote:
Galtiof wrote:Kosovo is Serbian.


Serbia is Croatia

Serbia is Yugoslavia
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Postby Inner Albania » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:51 am

This is now derailing into the average r/2balkan4u post.
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Postby Salus Maior » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:52 am

Rakhalia wrote:
Risottia wrote:So I guess with North Kosovars too?

1938:

"Solidarity with the Czechs defending their independence!"
Risottia: "And the right of the Sudeten Germans to self-determination?"

minority populations in small insignificant regions are not good grounds for bullying weaker countries because the latter is the main concern here


Couldn't that same sentiment have been used by Serbia when Kosovo wanted to break free in the first place?
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Postby Sordhau » Thu Aug 04, 2022 8:57 am

Arisyan wrote:
Sordhau wrote:
Serbia is Croatia

Serbia is Yugoslavia


Yugoslavia is Byzantium
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Postby Roiko » Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:01 am

Yes it should.

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Postby Beyaz Toros » Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:02 am

Kosovo is Turan (Hungarian)

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Postby Vistulange » Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:08 am

Inner Albania wrote:This is now derailing into the average r/2balkan4u post.

Didn't even take a page. Except, I'd imagine not a single person who derailed it is Balkan.
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Postby Beyaz Toros » Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:20 am

Vistulange wrote:
Inner Albania wrote:This is now derailing into the average r/2balkan4u post.

Didn't even take a page. Except, I'd imagine not a single person who derailed it is Balkan.


This is the nicest thing an Anatolian has said about me, successfully beaten the Balkanoid allegations
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Postby Risottia » Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:23 am

Rakhalia wrote:
Risottia wrote:So I guess with North Kosovars too?

1938:

"Solidarity with the Czechs defending their independence!"
Risottia: "And the right of the Sudeten Germans to self-determination?"

minority populations in small insignificant regions are not good grounds for bullying weaker countries because the latter is the main concern here

Ah, so, according to you, Kosovo should remain a province of Serbia.
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Postby Vistulange » Thu Aug 04, 2022 9:24 am

Beyaz Toros wrote:
Vistulange wrote:Didn't even take a page. Except, I'd imagine not a single person who derailed it is Balkan.


This is the nicest thing an Anatolian has said about me, successfully beaten the Balkanoid allegations

Istanbulite, from the European side, so technically not an Anatolian...and I did say "I'd imagine", so I left some room for error here. Sorry. :hug:
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